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Unable to load tactical battles - 7/19/2007 5:01:23 PM   
moose1999

 

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Status: offline 		Hi, I've just bought For Liberty but have been unable to load any tactical battles. Every time I try to fight a tactical battle the game locks up during the loading with the message: "Division by zero".
Have downloaded and installed latest patch (1.80).
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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/20/2007 12:41:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: briny_norman

Hi, I've just bought For Liberty but have been unable to load any tactical battles. Every time I try to fight a tactical battle the game locks up during the loading with the message: "Division by zero".
Have downloaded and installed latest patch (1.80).


Are you talking about the scenarios other than the campaign? They load fine for me, I just tried after seeing your post.

Are they saved from before this new 1.08 patch?

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/20/2007 2:17:43 AM   
theboneyman

 

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Status: offline 		I had the same error as above with the 1.80 patch  I loaded my saved campaign game which was in strategic mode and when I went into tactical mode I got a "divide by zero" error and the battle map just failed to load. I went back to 1.75 but had to delete the 'For Liberty!.exe' file in order to downgrade. All is fine at version 1.75. The campaign was saved under the 1.75 version originally.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/20/2007 10:57:35 AM   
moose1999

 

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Status: offline 		It happens with any scenario.
Saved games or new campaigns.
Everything works fine untill I try to play out a tactical battle. Then the battle-map fails to load with the division-by -zero message.
Sounds like boneyman and I are having the same problem.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/22/2007 2:43:01 AM   
rahamundo

 

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Status: offline 		Same problem for me...I posted the below early today but probably had it in the wrong thread.

I upgraded to 1.80, all works well except for one big problem.  I can't do tactical battles manually.  A small window pops up that says "Liberty", beneath it is a red circle with an X through it, to the right of that is says "Division By Zero" and then an 'OK" button to click. After clicking the "OK" button it returns to the main game window but with the main map portion blacked out and the little stop watch icon running, but the watch never stops, I have to exit out of the game entirely.  Somethings not right.  All other aspects of the gaem work fine, even auto resolve battles.  Any ideas what's wrong?  I run on Windows XP, ATI RADEon 9200 SE graphics card.   Thanks.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/22/2007 3:05:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Same here, in first battle it run fine. But after that the "Division By Zero" message come out everytime I fight the tactical battle. I run on Windows XP Pro with Intel 945GM display card. Tks

< Message edited by alfredtc -- 7/22/2007 9:27:40 AM >

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/22/2007 4:12:52 PM   
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Same here, in first battle it run fine. But after that the "Division By Zero" message come out everytime I fight the tactical battle. I run on Windows XP Pro with Intel 945GM display card. Tks


Same thing here...my first tactical battle ran fine but at the start of my second tactical battle I got ¨Division by Zero¨

This must be something in the 1.80 patch.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/22/2007 4:39:49 PM   
Frando

 

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Status: offline 		I just bought this game because it was on sale. Ran into the same problem all of you have reported. The curse of "divide by zero" LOL Not very impressed with the game so far hope the bug in the patch gets handled soon!


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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/22/2007 5:07:03 PM   
LarryP


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Status: offline 		So far this is the same quality of support I got with this game a year ago. It would lock up to the blue screen of death with SLI mode. Nobody around to help.

< Message edited by LarryP -- 7/22/2007 5:15:00 PM >

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/22/2007 5:41:19 PM   
alfredtc

 

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Status: offline 		It seems the "division by zero" error is a common issue in patch 1.8, I doubt does they ever play test the patch before release.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/22/2007 9:36:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is why i am giving up this lousy hobby, i am sick and tired of having to patch games only to find that the latest patch breaks a game even worse. To release a "bonus" patch that breaks the game and NOT even reply yet is just criminal. It's not just Matrix of course, even AGEOD has had a patch or two that goofs stuff up. Frankly, i do not find gaming anything more than work these days, patch, patch, patch, oops, patch, oops, patch, wait, wait...

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/22/2007 10:09:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHellPatrol

This is why i am giving up this lousy hobby, i am sick and tired of having to patch games only to find that the latest patch breaks a game even worse. To release a "bonus" patch that breaks the game and NOT even reply yet is just criminal. It's not just Matrix of course, even AGEOD has had a patch or two that goofs stuff up. Frankly, i do not find gaming anything more than work these days, patch, patch, patch, oops, patch, oops, patch, wait, wait...


You know, I am just about right there with you. I have made some drastic decisions since this Liberty! patch AND 35% off sale came out. The future of my buying is no longer going to be the same as before. Not even close. I have over 48 great games that are pretty trustworthy at this point and I can play those for the rest of my life and not make another purchase.

I don't blame you. You described it very well... patch, patch, oops, wait, patch!

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/22/2007 10:48:01 PM   
TheHellPatrol


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Status: offline 		FYI, i decided to give it a spin after reading all this and i got the BUG at the first tactical battle...what a joke. I figured out how to fix "my" problem once and for all: go to Control Panel, select Add or Remove Programs, select For Liberty and then finally select Uninstall Program. Worked like a charm, another $50 write off. After the Civ4 exp pack and Medievil 2 addon i'm done this year...life is too short.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 12:28:28 AM   
LarryP


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ORIGINAL: TheHellPatrol

FYI, i decided to give it a spin after reading all this and i got the BUG at the first tactical battle...what a joke. I figured out how to fix "my" problem once and for all: go to Control Panel, select Add or Remove Programs, select For Liberty and then finally select Uninstall Program. Worked like a charm, another $50 write off. After the Civ4 exp pack and Medievil 2 addon i'm done this year...life is too short.


Then since you uninstalled it you can't check out how the menus don't have a cancel button that actually works right. Those are amazingly worthless. I complained a year ago about them and they are no different!

I read in PCGamer about the Civ4 expansion pack (2nd one actually-Warlords-or was it just an addon? I have the dang thing too!) and the Medieval-2 addon. I planned on getting both if they rate well first. IF THEY RATE WELL FIRST! <---My new motto.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 12:47:40 AM   
Frando

 

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Status: offline 		Perhaps we need to start a new thread "worst patching nightmare." For me it was when the original Operation Art of War came out. There was a major patch like every few days. You would get an ideal on how to play the thing then ther next patch made you have to relearn everything again from the beginning...ugh

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 12:54:57 AM   
LarryP


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ORIGINAL: Frando

Perhaps we need to start a new thread "worst patching nightmare." For me it was when the original Operation Art of War came out. There was a major patch like every few days. You would get an ideal on how to play the thing then ther next patch made you have to relearn everything again from the beginning...ugh


You mean The Operational Art of War, TOAW they call it? I have the two originals and also TOAW3 from Matrix. I don't remember the patching fiasco though. That's been a while. Did each patch render your saved games useless too?

That's a tough game to learn. I still like it though and it has a ton of scenarios. Too many are for PBEM only though. I've spent a lot of hours playing TOAW3.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 1:19:55 AM   
Frando

 

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Status: offline 		Yup TOAW. I was so turned off by all the patching I lost interest in the game. In those days BB (before Broadband LOL) downloading a big patch was a major time killing activity. I bought the TOAW version that matrix makes (that was the last 35% off sale) and really like it now. Play that version a lot. Things go full circle.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 1:36:35 AM   
TheHellPatrol


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ORIGINAL: LarryP

I read in PCGamer about the Civ4 expansion pack (2nd one actually-Warlords-or was it just an addon? I have the dang thing too!) and the Medieval-2 addon. I planned on getting both if they rate well first. IF THEY RATE WELL FIRST! <---My new motto.
Yeah, this is the 2nd expansion for Civ4 but it adds a whole lot more gameplay in the latter part of the game(space) and includes an awesome mod "Fall From Heaven" which i already played and imho is worth the $ alone. Not to mention <COUGH> there is a patch available today for Civ4, Civ4 Warlords AND a little one for Beyond the Sword which ships tommorow. Now THATS support. I've got 685 MG of free space on my hardrive as of today.


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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 5:45:23 AM   
LarryP


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Status: offline 		The only patch I see for Warlords is Oct 31, 2006?!

Beyond The Sword ships tomorrow!!! I thought it was due out later. Cool! So now you are going to fill that 685 megs of space next week I bet.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 6:06:11 AM   
TheHellPatrol


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ORIGINAL: LarryP

The only patch I see for Warlords is Oct 31, 2006?!

Beyond The Sword ships tomorrow!!! I thought it was due out later. Cool! So now you are going to fill that 685 megs of space next week I bet.

It was announced today at the www.wargamer.com, the 3 patches are at the Firaxis site fyi. Yep, my copy of BTS is with overnight shipping so i'll be fillin' it Tuesday.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 7:12:58 AM   
LarryP


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ORIGINAL: TheHellPatrol

It was announced today at the www.wargamer.com, the 3 patches are at the Firaxis site fyi. Yep, my copy of BTS is with overnight shipping so i'll be fillin' it Tuesday.


I found the right patches. That's what I do too, overnight so I don't have to lose too much sleep waiting. Have fun and let me know how it is. I just got done playing Warlords and that updated Civ4 quite well in itself.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 3:38:31 PM   
themattcurtis

 

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Status: offline 		Well, I'm not THAT mad. Just kinda resigned.

I was pissed, too, about the 1.8 patch. Then I yanked it, re-installed to get to 1.7, and that was that.

The version I bought is a good, solid game. It's not my favorite title, but it's fun, it's playable, and it's got some longevity as there are two settings.

It's the principle of the thing -- Hussar not responding after people (including me) have been posting about this for days -- that burns me. I don't care HOW busy you are. You can take 45 seconds to say "we hear you" to people who've shelled out money for your product.

It's just a bit of a wargaming life lesson. I'm going to keep For Liberty on my PC. But I'll think again next time I see a new release.


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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 7:11:54 PM   
Ike99


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FYI, i decided to give it a spin after reading all this and i got the BUG at the first tactical battle...what a joke. I figured out how to fix "my" problem once and for all: go to Control Panel, select Add or Remove Programs, select For Liberty and then finally select Uninstall Program. Worked like a charm, another $50 write off. After the Civ4 exp pack and Medievil 2 addon i'm done this year...life is too short.


Allow me to defend the game makers for a second.

Wow! I`m glad I don`t work for Hussar games. I think some people want to tar and feather them.

Well it's not this traumatic for me. I paid around $20 dollars and got Liberty and 1848.

Three games really for around $20, that's pretty good deal.

I did find the 1.75 patch and it works well it seems. This 1.80 patch was just released Thursday. The ¨Division by Zero¨ bug reported this weekend. Today is Monday.

So let's see what we hear.

If we don`t hear anything then I will join the Hussar hanging mob.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 8:11:50 PM   
LarryP


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I think I paid the same as you around last August. Still, for any price the cancel buttons should cancel out of a menu NOT keep the settings. I have bitched about that for a year now and it is STILL NOT FIXED! All menus are worthless that way to me. For instance, Recruitment menu. Go into that and do some things then click the "X" button. Did it keep the settings or did it cancel out? I bet you know the answer...

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 8:48:03 PM   
TheHellPatrol


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ORIGINAL: themattcurtis

It's the principle of the thing -- Hussar not responding after people (including me) have been posting about this for days -- that burns me. I don't care HOW busy you are. You can take 45 seconds to say "we hear you" to people who've shelled out money for your product.

Exactly, and just let me point out i am not mad nor am i upset with Matrix per se. I am just disgusted with the gaming industry of late and maybe i am getting too old(45) or too impatient to spend my time patching only to make things worse. In this case, to release a patch and disappear is very unresponsible especially considering how it broke the game. I deleted FL as a show of contempt for such behaviour.


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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 9:24:49 PM   
Venator

 

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Status: offline 		I must say the the FL team were always very helpful and friendly when they were selling through their previous 'publishers'. Even though the game's not as fresh now I'm surprised they seem to avoid these forums. I kind of wish they hadn't switched to Matrix.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 9:30:55 PM   
Ike99


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Status: offline 		Hi Hellpatrol & Larry.

I can hear and feel your pain.



OK...that's being too dramatic. But yes I understand you. I bought Strategic Command from Battlefront a long time ago with that STUPID electronic registration bullshit on it.

Later when I tried to jump through the hoops for a game I paid moneyfor and reinstall it after reformatting my PC it said something like.... registration limit up or something like that when I went to unlock it. Can`t remember exactly what it said but it was something like that.

I threw it in the garbage vowing to never buy another game with that on it and so far haven`t and won`t.

I posted this on the Matrix general forum a LONG time ago and Matrix responded saying they wouldn´t put this on their games. I´m glad too because if they did I wouldn`t be buying their games either.


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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 9:34:07 PM   
LarryP


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ORIGINAL: TheHellPatrol

It was announced today at the www.wargamer.com, the 3 patches are at the Firaxis site fyi. Yep, my copy of BTS is with overnight shipping so i'll be fillin' it Tuesday.


After patching last night: After playing Warlords for a while this morning, I uninstalled Warlords AND Civ4. The same problems are there from originally. Popup help stopping then coming back later, who knows when. Go to save a game and I can't enter anything. Text boxes for naming cities won't let me enter text either. Tooltips stopping. Civ4 is just like these other crummy patched games---worthless and untested enough!

One less lifetime game to play, darn it.

I hope you don't have these problems, especially with this new expansion.

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 9:40:42 PM   
LarryP


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ORIGINAL: Ike99

Hi Hellpatrol & Larry.

OK...that's being too dramatic. But yes I understand you. I bought Strategic Command from Battlefront a long time ago with that STUPID electronic registration bullshit on it.

Later when I tried to jump through the hoops for a game I paid moneyfor and reinstall it after reformatting my PC it said something like.... registration limit up or something like that when I went to unlock it. Can`t remember exactly what it said but it was something like that.

I threw it in the garbage vowing to never buy another game with that on it and so far haven`t and won`t.

I posted this on the Matrix general forum a LONG time ago and Matrix responded saying they wouldn´t put this on their games. I´m glad too because if they did I wouldn`t be buying their games either.


I can sure relate to you on this digital download X%$#MXX&&##@@@ blankity blank scam. Check out my thread from a few months ago:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1432812

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RE: Unable to load tactical battles - 7/23/2007 9:57:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LarryP

I hope you don't have these problems, especially with this new expansion.
LOL...don't get me started. It seems long ago that i bought Civ4 at release to play on my <1year old Alienware. It wouldn't work...crashes, glitches. It turned out one culprit was my, at the time, next generation Nvidia card. Their "patches" never worked...in the pile it went. A year or so later i got a $4900 gaming laptop so my Son could have my Alienware to play his "tight" and "cool" games, then it worked(Civ4)...with a 512mg Nvidia card and 2GB DDR RAM it had better, right? So, in essence, you could say i bought a new PC for Civ4...the one i'm typing on with it's awesome color changing fan lights et al.


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