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from my initial trials of playing GoA on Vista, the important answer is that it does work
The Installs without incident as with other Matrix Games it defaults to installing in C:\Matrix Games\<name of game> instead of the C:|Program Files\etc. This is not a problem, just be aware of it.
When running the game from the quick start link created by the Installer.
The User Access Control prompts for elevated access... let it have access, otherwise GoA will not run, there are error messages and you have to terminate trench.exe via task manager
At first I had lots of errors but after setting it to Compatibility XP and Administrator it seems to be working fine.
Vista Home Premium 64
I started the scenario without compatability mode. I started it after I got my first crash. I guess I should start a fresh scenario under compatability mode.
I've always had it set to run as an administrator.
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Well, GOA "works" on Vista but only if you set the compatibility settings - so you could play it right now but it would need to run natively to be officially supported. I won't rule out that a future update may allow us to add Vista to the officially supported list, but not right now.
I started a new scenario, under compatability mode. I still get the playback crash. Replaying doesn't seem to help it (I saved just before). I think it's when it's starting up a new turn.
Update: Replaying did help. It's when it want's to deliver the victory screen. It was the end of 1914.
Update #2: It seems it was a conflict with another program.
< Message edited by epicat -- 7/25/2007 7:24:30 AM >
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I'm running GOA under Vista Enterprise - w/o running in compatibility mode. The only error i get is the occassional trench.exe error, which i just kill the process.
I hate to say this - it's not like vista came out yesterday - that was February. All of your new titles should be written to handle vista. I am getting my new gaming rig in a couple of weeks and it has vista on it. I own quite a few of Matrix games. You have always put out a quality product or patched them up pretty fast to a quality product. But if you are not going to keep up with the current OS then I have to rethink any future Matrix purchases.
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And Linux has been out for years yet there isn't even any sufggestion that GoA should have to run under it.
it is up to the developers to decide what OS'd they will support - if you want to run an OS that isnt' supported then you are choosing to have the problems that you encounter.
And Linux has been out for years yet there isn't even any sufggestion that GoA should have to run under it.
it is up to the developers to decide what OS'd they will support - if you want to run an OS that isnt' supported then you are choosing to have the problems that you encounter.
Then there's the real world...
Are you seriously trying to compare Linux to Windows? Been drinking?
I imagine it wouldn't have this problem, if the development started after Vista came out.
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The biggest problems as i understand it with Vista is the UAC stuff being more aggressive (hence the need to set things as administrator), the complete lack of DirectSound support and of course DirectX 10. 64 bit is even worse as some install programs don't work and other parts brought over from XP are also in 64 bit.
Really though i've found that most of the Matrix games I own just need some slight fiddling to the compatabiltiy settings and they start working. Had to do that to Games which supposedly were designed for Vista
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I imagine that if the development started after Vista came out the developer would have made a choice whether to develop it for that OS or not.
but it wasn't, and he didn't, and he has noted the OS's for which is WILL run, nd if you buy it intending to run it on a different OS then it's pretty lame blaming the developer for your mistake!
Of course I'm not comparing Linux to Windows - but I can if you like,....my 13 yr old son runs a Linux drive on my machine, I run XP and have Vista on standby awaiting news as to when it will become as reliable and as useful as either of those......your problems are helping convince me it's not going to be my OS of choice any time soon.
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I imagine that if the development started after Vista came out the developer would have made a choice whether to develop it for that OS or not.
Do you mean a choice about whether, or not to make money. It's not really a choice. Why do you think he chose to support XP?
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but it wasn't, and he didn't, and he has noted the OS's for which is WILL run, nd if you buy it intending to run it on a different OS then it's pretty lame blaming the developer for your mistake!
The developer wasn't blamed for a mistake. The publisher was blamed for not supporting Vista. The poster said he might discontinue buying Matrix games, because of this. Isn't that what you're implying should be done?
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Of course I'm not comparing Linux to Windows - but I can if you like,....my 13 yr old son runs a Linux drive on my machine, I run XP and have Vista on standby awaiting news as to when it will become as reliable and as useful as either of those......your problems are helping convince me it's not going to be my OS of choice any time soon.
Why is this my problem? Do you really think I care what operating system you use.?
Probably 'cos it's what he started it on way back when, or what he miggrated to...why don't you ask him?
My point is that XP was the latest Windows sometime around when he started developing this game. Maybe when. That's why he supported it. Vista is the latest version of Windows now.
He had to support XP, because of all the people using it. There was no other choice. What if it just supported Linux? What kind of money do you think he would have a chance of making then. He had no choice. It's pure economics.
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The developer wasn't blamed for a mistake. The publisher was blamed for not supporting Vista.
nope - you're wrong - the writer was blamed by bigmilt:
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All of your new titles should be written to handle vista.
That's not the way I read it. All of the publishers new titles. He was talking about not buying the publishers future games.
His post was an example of the economics I'm talking about. The economics that make Vista support imperative in the future. Not necessarily for this game.
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We do consider Vista support important for the future, but as you all know GOA has been in development for a long while and it simply wasn't in the cards for this release.
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ORIGINAL: epicat
The biggest problem I noticed, other than the error, was with UAC.
I've LONG since turned that nonsense off. Microsoft should be ashamed of themselves making security boasts based on a continual harassment of the customer.
Let me say Vista without UAC on is working fine. Have a good firewall, anti-virus and password protect yourself and ditch UAC. It is garbage.
< Message edited by Bossy573 -- 7/26/2007 2:50:06 PM >
following the thread, I would like to mention that I do not have any problem whatsoever running the game on Vista Home Premium, and never had to switch over to admin mode or change settings. Actually, I do not even get the game freeze at the year-end turn (sound on / sound off).
I do not have any other applications open while running the game, although Internet Security is up. No installation of any additional gaming tools etc. So I wonder if we are really talking about a Vista problem???
Besides, congratulatons on a superb game. Took a day to get used to the different mechanics in game-play, but after digging it I found out that exactly these differences give me the extra kick. WWI is a different conflict to portray due the static warfare, but this one finely and nicely covers all aspects on operational level.
So I wonder if we are really talking about a Vista problem???
I've been wondering the same thing.
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Besides, congratulatons on a superb game. Took a day to get used to the different mechanics in game-play, but after digging it I found out that exactly these differences give me the extra kick. WWI is a different conflict to portray due the static warfare, but this one finely and nicely covers all aspects on operational level.
I see some problems with the game, but I can't tear myself away from it.
I wonder why nobody wanted to answer my "gtrench.exe" question. Is it a secret?
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