Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: spence

The boys are still hung over from celebrating their success at PH.

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ORIGINAL: herwin

I've had the 5th carrier division sitting a hex from Wake for the last three turns with the squadrons tasked to hit Wake hard. The dates are Dec 9, 10, and 11, 1941. Plenty of missions saved up. Wake has five F4F3s on its airstrip. Nothing has been flying. Nothing for three turns. Have I found myself in never-never land? Has the game engine gone off the tracks?

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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ORIGINAL: herwin

I've had the 5th carrier division sitting a hex from Wake for the last three turns with the squadrons tasked to hit Wake hard. The dates are Dec 9, 10, and 11, 1941. Plenty of missions saved up. Wake has five F4F3s on its airstrip. Nothing has been flying. Nothing for three turns. Have I found myself in never-never land? Has the game engine gone off the tracks?

Lots of things can go wrong A common failure is to not setting the air mission of individual units correctly.

Otherwise, if you can send screen shots that might help.

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Hmmm - only thing i don't see is the individual ship to check sorties, but you said you had plenty of missions saved up.

Sometimes the program balks for some reason, and the only thing i can think to suggest is to reset the orders. Try setting to "Naval Attack" with secondary missions to attack Midway.

This game does not have a learning curve. It has a learning cliff.

"Bomb early, bomb often, bomb everything." - Niceguy

Any bugs I report are always straight stock games.

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ORIGINAL: dtravel

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Hmmm - only thing i don't see is the individual ship to check sorties, but you said you had plenty of missions saved up.

Sometimes the program balks for some reason, and the only thing i can think to suggest is to reset the orders. Try setting to "Naval Attack" with secondary missions to attack Midway.

The TF screen and the Soryu details window both show 100% of max sorties available.

I would suggest running some recon missions. Raise the DL of Wake and your aircraft might attack.

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Hmmm - only thing i don't see is the individual ship to check sorties, but you said you had plenty of missions saved up.

Sometimes the program balks for some reason, and the only thing i can think to suggest is to reset the orders. Try setting to "Naval Attack" with secondary missions to attack Midway.

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ORIGINAL: herwin

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Hmmm - only thing i don't see is the individual ship to check sorties, but you said you had plenty of missions saved up.

Sometimes the program balks for some reason, and the only thing i can think to suggest is to reset the orders. Try setting to "Naval Attack" with secondary missions to attack Midway.

I've posted the following pws files to my witp site:
1. C.pws--the combat replay
2. A.pws--the complete turn before replay
3. J0.pws--the Japanese side before the Allied moves were entered.
4. J1.pws--the Japanese side for the next turn.

The Japanese password is combomod. (I trust my opponent--we're beta testing his new mod.)

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ORIGINAL: herwin

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ORIGINAL: dtravel

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Hmmm - only thing i don't see is the individual ship to check sorties, but you said you had plenty of missions saved up.

Sometimes the program balks for some reason, and the only thing i can think to suggest is to reset the orders. Try setting to "Naval Attack" with secondary missions to attack Midway.

The TF screen and the Soryu details window both show 100% of max sorties available.

I would suggest running some recon missions. Raise the DL of Wake and your aircraft might attack.

Well, I do have troops on the ground there. This is getting really weird.

This game does not have a learning curve. It has a learning cliff.

"Bomb early, bomb often, bomb everything." - Niceguy

Any bugs I report are always straight stock games.

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ORIGINAL: dtravel

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ORIGINAL: herwin

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ORIGINAL: dtravel

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Hmmm - only thing i don't see is the individual ship to check sorties, but you said you had plenty of missions saved up.

Sometimes the program balks for some reason, and the only thing i can think to suggest is to reset the orders. Try setting to "Naval Attack" with secondary missions to attack Midway.

The TF screen and the Soryu details window both show 100% of max sorties available.

I would suggest running some recon missions. Raise the DL of Wake and your aircraft might attack.

Well, I do have troops on the ground there. This is getting really weird.

Just having troops in the hex does not raise the DL very high. One of the most overlooked problems with getting aircraft to attack is getting the Detection Level of the target high enough.

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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ORIGINAL: dtravel

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ORIGINAL: herwin

Well, I do have troops on the ground there. This is getting really weird.

Just having troops in the hex does not raise the DL very high. One of the most overlooked problems with getting aircraft to attack is getting the Detection Level of the target high enough.

i can maybe understand the ground attack not coming off, but they SHOULD hit the airfield, i think.

This game does not have a learning curve. It has a learning cliff.

"Bomb early, bomb often, bomb everything." - Niceguy

Any bugs I report are always straight stock games.

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ORIGINAL: dtravel

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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ORIGINAL: dtravel

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ORIGINAL: herwin

Well, I do have troops on the ground there. This is getting really weird.

Just having troops in the hex does not raise the DL very high. One of the most overlooked problems with getting aircraft to attack is getting the Detection Level of the target high enough.

i can maybe understand the ground attack not coming off, but they SHOULD hit the airfield, i think.

*struggles to not make snarky comments on the difference between "should work that way" and "way it was actually programmed"*

You've really got to stop feeding me straight lines like that, Bob.

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ORIGINAL: dtravel

You may not need a "good" DL, but to avoid the chance of not flying you need a DL higher than you get from just having friendly LCUs in the hex.  I have seen numerous occasions where just flying a single recon mission over the target will suddenly unleash all the other aircraft that have that base targeted but haven't been flying.  And once they are flying, the DL bumps their own attack missions give will (usually) keep it high enough for them to keep attacking.

That's not a guarentee that DL is the problem here.  Just that it is an often overlooked aspect.

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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ORIGINAL: dtravel

You may not need a "good" DL, but to avoid the chance of not flying you need a DL higher than you get from just having friendly LCUs in the hex.  I have seen numerous occasions where just flying a single recon mission over the target will suddenly unleash all the other aircraft that have that base targeted but haven't been flying.  And once they are flying, the DL bumps their own attack missions give will (usually) keep it high enough for them to keep attacking.

That's not a guarentee that DL is the problem here.  Just that it is an often overlooked aspect.

i have seen problems where low DLs have limited attacks - but i don't recall this ever happening with an airfield (nor naval target) - nor have i ever heard of a dev saying it is a problem limiting AIRFIELD attacks... have you?

One possibility i haven't seen addressed yet is weather.

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ORIGINAL: herwin

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Hmmm - only thing i don't see is the individual ship to check sorties, but you said you had plenty of missions saved up.

Sometimes the program balks for some reason, and the only thing i can think to suggest is to reset the orders. Try setting to "Naval Attack" with secondary missions to attack Midway.

I've posted the following pws files to my witp site:
1. C.pws--the combat replay
2. A.pws--the complete turn before replay
3. J0.pws--the Japanese side before the Allied moves were entered.
4. J1.pws--the Japanese side for the next turn.

The Japanese password is combomod. (I trust my opponent--we're beta testing his new mod.)

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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ORIGINAL: herwin

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Hmmm - only thing i don't see is the individual ship to check sorties, but you said you had plenty of missions saved up.

Sometimes the program balks for some reason, and the only thing i can think to suggest is to reset the orders. Try setting to "Naval Attack" with secondary missions to attack Midway.

I've posted the following pws files to my witp site:
1. C.pws--the combat replay
2. A.pws--the complete turn before replay
3. J0.pws--the Japanese side before the Allied moves were entered.
4. J1.pws--the Japanese side for the next turn.

The Japanese password is combomod. (I trust my opponent--we're beta testing his new mod.)

Urk - i've tried downloading these and i get error message (if i try "download target")

"Internet Explorer was not able to open this internet site. The requested site is either unavailable or cannot be found. Please try again later."

or

"The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

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Please try the following:

If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.

Open the scat-he-g4.sunderland.ac.uk home page, and then look for links to the information you want.
Click the Back button to try another link.
Click Search to look for information on the Internet.



HTTP 404 - File not found
Internet Explorer "
(this if i try clicking on the link directly).


Is your web site working???

EDIT: i tried with another browser (Netscape) - similar results... the stuff above seems to be able to be downloaded.

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ORIGINAL: herwin

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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ORIGINAL: herwin

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Hmmm - only thing i don't see is the individual ship to check sorties, but you said you had plenty of missions saved up.

Sometimes the program balks for some reason, and the only thing i can think to suggest is to reset the orders. Try setting to "Naval Attack" with secondary missions to attack Midway.

I've posted the following pws files to my witp site:
1. C.pws--the combat replay
2. A.pws--the complete turn before replay
3. J0.pws--the Japanese side before the Allied moves were entered.
4. J1.pws--the Japanese side for the next turn.

The Japanese password is combomod. (I trust my opponent--we're beta testing his new mod.)

Urk - i've tried downloading these and i get error message (if i try "download target")

"Internet Explorer was not able to open this internet site. The requested site is either unavailable or cannot be found. Please try again later."

or

"The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please try the following:

If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.

Open the scat-he-g4.sunderland.ac.uk home page, and then look for links to the information you want.
Click the Back button to try another link.
Click Search to look for information on the Internet.



HTTP 404 - File not found
Internet Explorer "
(this if i try clicking on the link directly).


Is your web site working???

EDIT: i tried with another browser (Netscape) - similar results... the stuff above seems to be able to be downloaded.

The link is <http://scat-he-g4.sunderland.ac.uk/~harryerw/witp/index.html> <http://tinyurl.com/ywyaz8>. My opponents use it on a daily basis, and there's a copy of the Skripta manual posted there that people have downloaded. See if you can access <http://scat-he-g4.sunderland.ac.uk/~harryerw/index.html>. If you can't, either the university router is down or you're being blocked at your end.

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ORIGINAL: herwin

Fixed...