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Aircraft Upgrade Paths - 8/9/2007 9:04:23 PM   
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How does the game know what type of aircraft an airgroup can accept, especially with PDU on?

For example, IJ Navy transport groups can only accept Thora, Tina, Mavis, and Tabby transports...but when I look in the editor I notice that each of these only upgrade to themselves.

IJ Army - your choices are always the army fighters it appears.

IJ Navy - same thing - you can't upgrade an Zero daitai to Franks.

British fighters, US fighters, etc all hold true to this. But why? I see no rationale in the editor when looking at the aircraft data.
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RE: Aircraft Upgrade Paths - 8/9/2007 9:11:13 PM   
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Hi all,

quote:

ORIGINAL: donnie_1974_texas

How does the game know what type of aircraft an airgroup can accept, especially with PDU on?

For example, IJ Navy transport groups can only accept Thora, Tina, Mavis, and Tabby transports...but when I look in the editor I notice that each of these only upgrade to themselves.

IJ Army - your choices are always the army fighters it appears.

IJ Navy - same thing - you can't upgrade an Zero daitai to Franks.

British fighters, US fighters, etc all hold true to this. But why? I see no rationale in the editor when looking at the aircraft data.


Here is a list I made long ago for Japanese:

Aircraft         Entry   Upgrade to       Replacement  Type            Navy/Army
                 Date                     Date

A5M4 Claude      Jan-37  A2M2 Zero        Sep-40       Fighter         Navy
A6M2 Zero        Sep-40  A6M3a Zero       Nov-42       Fighter         Navy
A6M3 Zero        Apr-42  A6M5 Zeke        Sep-43       Fighter         Navy
A6M3a Zero       Nov-42  A6M5 Zeke        Sep-43       Fighter         Navy
A6M5 Zeke        Sep-43  A6M8 Zeke        Jun-45       Fighter         Navy
A6M8 Zeke        Jun-45  A7M2 Reppu       Jul-45       Fighter         Navy
A7M2 Reppu       Jul-45  A7M2 Reppu       Jul-45       Fighter         Navy

N1K1-J George    Jan-44  J7W Shinden      Aug-45       Fighter         Navy
J2M Jack         Mar-43  J7W Shinden      Aug-45       Fighter         Navy
J7W Shinden      Aug-45  J7W Shinden      Aug-45       Fighter         Navy

A6M2-N Ruffe     Dec-41  A6M2-N Ruffe     Dec-41       Float Fighter   Navy

A6M5c Zeke       Sep-43  A6M5c Zeke       Sep-43       Fighter Bomber  Navy

J1N1-S Irving    Sep-43  C6N1-S Myrt      Sep-44       Night Fighter   Navy
C6N1-S Myrt      Sep-44  C6N1-S Myrt      Sep-44       Night Fighter   Navy

D1A Susie        Jan-39  D3A Val          Jan-39       Dive Bomber     Navy
D3A Val          Jan-39  D4Y Judy         Nov-43       Dive Bomber     Navy
D4Y Judy         Nov-43  D4Y Judy         Nov-43       Dive Bomber     Navy

B4Y Jean         Jan-39  B5N Kate         Jan-39       Torpedo Bomber  Navy
B5N Kate         Jan-39  B6N Jill         Dec-43       Torpedo Bomber  Navy
B6N Jill         Dec-43  B7A Grace        Jun-44       Torpedo Bomber  Navy
B7A Grace        Jun-44  B7A Grace        Jun-44       Torpedo Bomber  Navy

G3M Nell         Jan-36  G4M1 Betty       Jun-41       Level Bomber    Navy
G4M1 Betty       Jun-41  G4M2 Betty       Jul-43       Level Bomber    Navy
G4M2 Betty       Jul-43  G4M2 Betty       Jul-43       Level Bomber    Navy
G4M2e Betty      Oct-44  G4M2e Betty      Oct-44       Level Bomber    Navy
P1Y Frances      Dec-43  P1Y Frances      Dec-43       Level Bomber    Navy

J1N1-R Irving    Oct-42  C6N Myrt         Mar-44       Recon           Navy
C5M Babs         Jan-39  J1N1-R Irving    Oct-42       Recon           Navy
C6N Myrt         Mar-44  C6N Myrt         Mar-44       Recon           Navy

H6K4 Mavis       Jan-41  H8K Emily        Jan-42       Patrol          Navy
H8K Emily        Jan-42  H8K Emily        Jan-42       Patrol          Navy

H6K2-L Mavis     Jan-41  H6K2 - L Mavis   Jan-41       Transport       Navy
L1N1 Thora       Jan-36  L1N1 Thora       Jan-36       Transport       Navy
L3Y Tina         Jan-36  L3Y Tina         Jan-36       Transport       Navy
L2D2 Tabby       Jan-41  L2D2 Tabby       Jan-41       Transport       Navy

E7K2 Alf         Jan-39  E7K2 Alf         Jan-39       Float           Navy
E8N Dave         Jan-38  E13A1 Jake       Oct-41       Float           Navy
F1M2 Pete        Jan-41  F1M2 Pete        Jan-41       Float           Navy
E13A1 Jake       Oct-41  E13A1 Jake       Oct-41       Float           Navy
E14Y1 Glen       Sep-41  E14Y1 Glen       Sep-41       Float           Navy

Ki-27 Nate       Jan-37  Ki-43-IIa Oscar  Jan-43       Fighter         Army
Ki-43-Ib Oscar   Dec-41  Ki-61 KA1c Tony  Aug-42       Fighter         Army
Ki-43-IIa Oscar  Jan-43  Ki-43-IIa Oscar  Jan-43       Fighter         Army
Ki-44 IIb Tojo   Aug-42  Ki-84-Ia Frank   Aug-44       Fighter         Army
Ki-46 III Dinah  Oct-44  Ki-102a Randy    Jul-44       Fighter         Army
Ki-61 KA1c Tony  Aug-42  Ki-100 Tony      Feb-45       Fighter         Army
Ki-84-Ia Frank   Aug-44  Ki-84-Ic Frank   Dec-44       Fighter         Army
Ki-84-Ic Frank   Dec-44  Ki-84-Ic Frank   Dec-44       Fighter         Army
Ki-100 Tony      Feb-45  Ki-100 Tony      Feb-45       Fighter         Army

Ki-45 KAIb Nick  Jan-43  Ki-102a Randy    Jul-44       Fighter Bomber  Army
Ki-102a Randy    Jul-44  Ki-102a Randy    Jul-44       Fighter Bomber  Army

Ki-45 KAIa Nick  Dec-42  Ki-45 KA1c Nick  Apr-44       Night Fighter   Army
Ki-45 KAIc Nick  Apr-44  Ki-45 KA1c Nick  Apr-44       Night Fighter   Army

Ki-30 Ann        Jan-39  Ki-51 Sonia      Jan-39       Dive Bomber     Army
Ki-32 Mary       Jan-39  Ki-48 Lily       Jan-40       Dive Bomber     Army
Ki-51 Sonia      Jan-39  Ki-51 Sonia      Jan-39       Dive Bomber     Army

Ki-21 Sally      Jan-38  Ki-67 Peggy      Oct-44       Level Bomber    Army
Ki-48 Lily       Jan-40  Ki-102a Randy    Jul-44       Level Bomber    Army
Ki-49 Helen      Dec-41  Ki-67 Peggy      Oct-44       Level Bomber    Army
Ki-67 Peggy      Oct-44  Ki-67 Peggy      Oct-44       Level Bomber    Army

Ki-36 Ida        Jan-39  Ki-36 Ida        Jan-39       Recon           Army
Ki-15 Babs       Jan-39  Ki-46 II Dinah   Jun-41       Recon           Army
Ki-46 II Dinah   Jun-41  Ki-46 III Dinah  Jan-43       Recon           Army
Ki-46 III Dinah  Jan-43  Ki-46 III Dinah  Jan-43       Recon           Army

Ki-57 II Topsy   Jan-41  Ki-57 II Topsy   Jan-41       Transport       Army
Ki-59 Theresa    Jan-41  Ki-54 Hickory    Jan-41       Transport       Army
MC-21 Sally      Jan-38  MC-21 Sally      Jan-38       Transport       Army
Ki-54 Hickory    Jan-41  Ki-54 Hickory    Jan-41       Transport       Army



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RE: Aircraft Upgrade Paths - 8/9/2007 10:10:54 PM   
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Well, it's historical accuracy, you know...

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RE: Aircraft Upgrade Paths - 8/10/2007 11:47:42 AM   
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quote:

Well, it's historical accuracy, you know...



Especially with PDU ON.

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RE: Aircraft Upgrade Paths - 8/10/2007 2:32:17 PM   
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The slot the Zekes are in are hard-coded for carrier planes as are the Claudes.
They cannot upgrade to other than carrier planes for this reason.
If you use the editor to put Army planes in the exact same slots, they will then become "carrier planes", and void historical-correctness.

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