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The 1800's - 12/1/2007 10:41:35 PM

jeremy7227

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Hi All - I wanted to post some reseach for anyone that might find it useful...

Here is a list of the number of players that debut in each season 1871 - 1901 assuming you begin importing with 1871 and do not allow duplicate players. If you are playing in SandBox Mode this can be a useful list in importing the correct number of players to support your selected league team/roster size.

1871 - 126
1872 - 69
1873 - 39
1874 - 32
1875 - 97
1876 - 34
1877 - 21
1878 - 27
1879 - 64
1880 - 46
1881 - 26
1882 - 114
1883 - 104
1884 - 433
1885 - 67
1886 - 111
1887 - 103
1888 - 105
1889 - 104
1890 - 269
1891 - 109
1892 - 74
1893 - 81
1894 - 94
1895 - 117
1896 - 84
1897 - 90
1898 - 119
1899 - 104
1900 - 33
1901 - 180

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RE: The 1800's - 12/1/2007 10:44:52 PM

jeremy7227

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Here is a list of 67 players (this is a WIP) that played organized "high-amateur" baseball prior to the formation of the National Association in 1871. I have included as much detail as I was able to find about each player based on box score and written accounts. Some of these players also appear on NA rosters.

First Last B T Positions Debut Final Ht Wt Team
Samuel Robb 1837 Phila. Olympics
Robert Desilver 1837 Phila. Olympics
Joseph Thomas 1837 Phila. Olympics
Samuel Carpenter 1837 Phila. Olympics
Charles Desilver 1837 Phila. Olympics
Robert P. McCullagh 1837 Phila. Olympics
Joseph Hillborn 1837 Phila. Olympics
George W. Watson 1837 Phila. Olympics
Edward Gaskill 1837 Phila. Olympics
William Hart Carr 1837 Phila. Olympics
Edward Bowlby, Jr. 1837 Phila. Olympics
John G. Brenner 1837 Phila. Olympics
Samuel L. Bowlby 1837 Phila. Olympics
William A. Blanchard 1837 Phila. Olympics
Charles J. Thomas 1837 Phila. Olympics
Nicholas Nowlin 1837 Phila. Olympics
Thomas Robb 1837 Phila. Olympics
Peter C. Ellmaker 1837 Phila. Olympics
Robert Lindsay 1837 Phila. Olympics
James G Edwards 1837 Phila. Olympics
Edward John Fox 1837 Phila. Olympics
George P. Hersa 1837 Phila. Olympics
Samuel Hufty 1837 Phila. Olympics
John R. James 1837 Phila. Olympics
Frederick S. Ellmaker 1837 Phila. Olympics
Thomas T. Firth 1837 Phila. Olympics
Joseph Saxton 1837 Phila. Olympics
George W. Wharton 1837 Phila. Olympics
Joseph Mort 1837 Phila. Olympics
John Lowell C 1852 Boston BBC (Tri-Mountain?)
Jim Creighton R R P 1857 1862* 6'0" 185 Niagara, BKN Excelsiors
George Flanley 1857 Niagara, BKN Excelsiors
G.E. Gould C 1858 Tri-Mountain (Boston)
Henry F. Gill 3B 1858 Tri-Mountain (Boston)
C.C. Dimon 1B 1858 Tri-Mountain (Boston)
G.F. Goldthwait 2B 1858 Tri-Mountain (Boston)
F.N. Scott CF 1858 Tri-Mountain (Boston)
G. Troupe RF 1858 Tri-Mountain (Boston)
G. Arnold LF 1858 Tri-Mountain (Boston)
W.H. Bourne SS 1858 Tri-Mountain (Boston)
I.H. Ware P 1858 Tri-Mountain (Boston)
E.N. Robinson C 1861 Portland (ME)
S.M. Eaton P 1861 Portland (ME)
S. Crowell 2B 1861 Portland (ME)
J.C.M. Furbish RF 1861 Portland (ME)
G.H. Abbott LF 1861 Portland (ME)
J.B. Winslow 3B 1861 Portland (ME)
G.M. Woodbury 1B 1861 Portland (ME)
Samuel Chadwick SS 1861 Portland (ME)
J.M. Knight CF 1861 Portland (ME)
Asa Brainard R R P 1860 BKN Excelsiors
John D'Wolf Lovett P 1861 Lowells (Boston)
Joslin 3B 1861 Lowells (Boston)
Rogers CF 1861 Lowells (Boston)
Sumner 2B 1861 Lowells (Boston)
Jewell 1B 1861 Lowells (Boston)
Alline RF 1861 Lowells (Boston)
Bradbury C 1861 Lowells (Boston)
Newton LF 1861 Lowells (Boston)
Wilder SS 1861 Lowells (Boston)
George Wright SS 1863 NY Gothams
Harry Wright OF/P 1863 NY Gothams
Candy Cummings R R P 1866 BKN Excelsiors
Charlie Gould 1B 1866 Cincinnati Buckeyes
Lip Pike OF 1866 Phila. Athletics
Rynie Wolters P 1866
Al Spalding R R P 1866 Rockford Forest City
Ross Barnes R R SS/2B 1867 Rockford Forest City
Doug Allison C 1868

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RE: The 1800's - 12/2/2007 1:58:15 AM

KG Erwin

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The 19th century leagues offer some interesting challenges. Jeremy, did you find ballparks to match the era?

Edit: some DO exist, but for GBG managing purposes are poor. You're simming all games, correct?

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RE: The 1800's - 12/2/2007 7:07:20 AM

jeremy7227

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I sim all games but I do have some the info for park dimensions, names and the basics. If you play GBG it definitely loses a little something in that era. But the thing I like is the ability to pull in these players and sim to a point in history where I want to play GBG and have real names and faces in the almanac.

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