Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

This is all really OOB stuff when it comes down to it, and that's still being finalized. The aircraft are going to be shaken out into their different submodels and assigned more realistic arrival dates (TimTom is working VERY hard on this).

As for the S-boats, we're still discussing this. As you say, they were dreadful clunkers and many were going into combat at the end of their useful service lives.

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

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ORIGINAL: Fishbed

Terminus, sorry to disturb you with another japanese shipping issue, but Im told by my fellow French WITPers on some other forum that we can't load troops aboard the Japanese CS (Chitose, Chiyoda, Nisshin, or even the short-lived Mizuho). Myself I usually play the US (and I don't have WitP on my computer right here) so I can't say if it is true or not. But well they ask, as so I am, if indeed these CS can't carry troops nor supplies right now, if anything is planned to allow them to do so in AE? We all know how important they could be for successful high-speed slot rides, something they were somewhat good at (as long as they didn't meet some plane on the way like the ill-fated Nisshin...).

Thanks in advance :)

Not sure. I'll go look it up.

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ORIGINAL: asdicus

I am very much looking forward to this new addition to witp - have a question about surface ships asw ( anti submarine warfare) capability.

At the moment the game cannot differentiate on the capabilty of hunting subs between say a japanese early war merchantman gunboat( basically just a small merchant ship with a gun, few depth charges and perhaps passive hydrophones) and a late war us or british purpose built frigate or destroyer escort( with advanced active depth finding sonar auto linked to asw weapons like squid or hedgehog). Sure the weapons fit is different bwtween ships but the crucial submarine detection equipment ( hydrophones,asdic or sonar ) is ignored. The result is that the japanese armada of early war PG are just as effective vs subs as proper usa or british escorts. Could the game introduce some kind of sonar capability data field to naval ships eg basic passive, basic active, advanced active etc. Jap PG would rate as basic passive while a late war allied escort would mount advanced active and so forth. Sonar type would determine submarine detection %.

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Isn't it what the ASW factor for each ship is here for already?
If I am not mistaken they are rated after these factors already aren't they?

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ORIGINAL: spence

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Isn't it what the ASW factor for each ship is here for already?
If I am not mistaken they are rated after these factors already aren't they?

I'm pretty sure that the ASW factor is almost entirely a function of #of AS weapons.

Speaking of AS weapons...will FIDO the ASW homing torpedo make it into the AE? A significant number of sub kills resulted from its use though I don't know how many in the Pacific.

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ORIGINAL: asdicus

I am very much looking forward to this new addition to witp - have a question about surface ships asw ( anti submarine warfare) capability.

At the moment the game cannot differentiate on the capabilty of hunting subs between say a japanese early war merchantman gunboat( basically just a small merchant ship with a gun, few depth charges and perhaps passive hydrophones) and a late war us or british purpose built frigate or destroyer escort( with advanced active depth finding sonar auto linked to asw weapons like squid or hedgehog). Sure the weapons fit is different bwtween ships but the crucial submarine detection equipment ( hydrophones,asdic or sonar ) is ignored. The result is that the japanese armada of early war PG are just as effective vs subs as proper usa or british escorts. Could the game introduce some kind of sonar capability data field to naval ships eg basic passive, basic active, advanced active etc. Jap PG would rate as basic passive while a late war allied escort would mount advanced active and so forth. Sonar type would determine submarine detection %.

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ORIGINAL: spence

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Isn't it what the ASW factor for each ship is here for already?
If I am not mistaken they are rated after these factors already aren't they?

I'm pretty sure that the ASW factor is almost entirely a function of #of AS weapons.

Speaking of AS weapons...will FIDO the ASW homing torpedo make it into the AE? A significant number of sub kills resulted from its use though I don't know how many in the Pacific.

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The MK24 FIDO Record in Combat
The first confirmed FIDO sinking is believed, at this time, to have occurred 14 May 1943 when a PBY Catalina flying boat from US Navy VP-84 attacked and sank U-640 with a MK24 torpedo [more probable is that the first victim was the U-657 on May 17 - Editor]. Most US Navy composite squadrons flying from the ASW escort carriers operating in the Atlantic from mid 1943 on were equipped with FIDO as were the land based patrol squadrons. The torpedo was also supplied to the British and Canadian forces.

US Navy OEG Study No. 289, 12 August 1946 provides the following estimates of MK24 usage and results achieved:

Number of attacks in which Mk24s were launched 264
Total Number of Mk24 torpedoes launched - all targets 340
Number of MK24s launched against submarines 204
Number of Mk24 attacks on submarines by US aircraft 142
Number of submarines sunk by FIDO 31
Number of submarines damaged by FIDO 15
Number of MK24 attacks on subs by Allies (primarily British) 62
Number of submarines sunk by FIDO 6
Number of submarines damaged by FIDO 3
Total number of submarines sunk by FIDO (German & Japanese) 37*
Total number of submarines damaged 18
*Note: Includes five Japanese submarines sunk;
1 in the Atlantic
4 in the Pacific

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ORIGINAL: Brady

ctangus- Your aware that the RN cleared the Coursare for Carrier use much sooner than the USN Navy did right?

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ORIGINAL: Chad Harrison

A thought just came to me today and I have yet to see it mentioned:

Can we get a separate class for APA and AKA?

As it is now, they show up as normal AP's and AK's. It gets annoying always looking for your AKA's and APA's among hundreds (and in endgame), thousands of other ships. Would be nice if they were listed as their actual class, not generic AP's or AK's. Similar to how you can *see* the difference between CLAA and CL.

Just a thought.

Thanks :)