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RE: Cv Wasp has another lucky escape - 1/13/2008 8:25:21 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/23/45

Air Combat

Day Air attack on Taipei , at 50,43

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 4
B-24J Liberator x 43


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Oil hits 5
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This time we turned away all B-24s from Shanghai:

Day Air attack on Shanghai , at 52,39

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 19
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 28
Ki-100 Tony x 15

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 3
B-24J Liberator x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 6 destroyed, 15 damaged
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Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 15
PB4Y Liberator x 7

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10
Port hits 1
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Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 5
B-24J Liberator x 96

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 70
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Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 22

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Repair Shipyard hits 14
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Day Air attack on 9th Australian Division, at 15,23

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bacolod at 42,57

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 10
G4M2 Betty x 7

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
ML Ogalala - Unfortunately for Rob the Oglala avoided 4 torpedoes...
AK Ganymede
AK Kentuckian
AK Bedford Victory, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bacolod at 42,57

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Deimos
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bacolod at 42,57

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 6

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Robin Wentley
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Ground Combat

More confusion around Harbin: Again Red Army units have passed straight through one of our bases - Harbin this time.
Seems like land combat is veery special and bugged in Manchukuo

Ground combat at Harbin

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 33645 troops, 498 guns, 943 vehicles, Assault Value = 8490

Defending force 307150 troops, 3348 guns, 1277 vehicles, Assault Value = 6616

Allied max assault: 724 - adjusted assault: 76

Japanese max defense: 7259 - adjusted defense: 15622

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)

Japanese ground losses:
123 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
1511 casualties reported
Guns lost 94
Vehicles lost 20
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Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 38842 troops, 556 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 1047

Defending force 67204 troops, 104 guns, 91 vehicles, Assault Value = 1186

Japanese ground losses:
374 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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RE: Cv Wasp has another lucky escape - 1/14/2008 12:08:57 AM   
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Nothing much to report - Andy is pulling out the Red Army since he doesn't have enough supplies
to continue....afraid we'll never know how it would have ended if things had worked properly.

I've placed 5 Naval HQ's and 3 ARs in the biggest repair yard in Japan, and still Yamato has stayed
at 30 sys damage for a week. Another bad joke.

Otherwise I've moved as many fighters to the Home Islands as possible.
Can only afford 3-4 100% coverages and have to choose which ones to make 'bullet proof' against unescorted
B-29s.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/24/45

Air Combat

The tiny 0 size atoll west of Okinawa was attacked by a strong formation of mediums today.
Guess Andy is planning to seize it.

Day Air attack on Ishieak , at 52,46

Allied aircraft
Mosquito B.XXVI x 16
A-26B Invader x 187

No Allied losses

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 5
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 34

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-26B Invader attacking at 100 feet
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 38860 troops, 557 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 1055

Defending force 66932 troops, 103 guns, 89 vehicles, Assault Value = 1175

Japanese ground losses:
233 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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RE: Cv Wasp has another lucky escape - 1/14/2008 1:42:58 AM   
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quote:

I've placed 5 Naval HQ's and 3 ARs in the biggest repair yard in Japan, and still Yamato has stayed
at 30 sys damage for a week. Another bad joke.


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Small atoll near Okinawas assaulted - 1/14/2008 10:44:16 PM   
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Nice effort Fish - but you have to keep it up - still 30 sys damage!
Added another AR and a Naval HQ...

Several B-29 strikes hit Mitsubishi factories today.
I'm increasing CAP over these bases and we claimed a lot of 4Es!

Other measures include increases Mitsubishi engine production as well as conversion of Nakajima plants.
I will also stop production of transport and aux type ac with Mitsubishi engines if we run low. Can half the demand
by doing so. Most of our bomber units are already up to strength and busy training.

In total 26 B-29s were reported shot down and 122 were damaged (forgot to check how many of these crashed as well as OP losses).

A TF unloaded a small army over the size 0 atoll of Ishieak 2 hexes from Kadina.
Guess Andy will land 50k SeaBees and build the place before assaulting the Okinawas.
This process will be impossible to stop - but we can delay it.

Tankers are still breaking the blockade, some 60k oil has been unloaded this week.
Our new processing plants in Sakhalin is also yielding results and we're now able to keep the basic industry supplied.

Andy is now moving the Red Army out of Harbin. I've halted offensive actions against Vladivostok as I don't want to take
advantage of the situation. Our Panzer Army is no longer needed in Manchukuo and will be moved out. This is a powerful tactical reserve. I'm also moving aviation support to the Korean peninsula. This will provide a good base for our LBA in the coming battles. Manchukuo itself is a safe haven and training area for our bombers. The last 6 months of the war will see immense actions as the Empire throws in its last reserves! Thousands of Reppus and Shindens will contest Allied Air Supremacy while Franks, Tonys and Oscars escort our bombers.

I'm also considering to withdraw more troops from the Marianas - these islands have lost much of their importance with the fall of the major bases in Luzon.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/25/45

Invasions

Coastal Guns at Ishieak, 52,46, firing at TF 1016
TF 1016 troops unloading over beach at Ishieak, 52,46

132 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CA Wichita
CL Tromp
DD Knox
DE Williams, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
360 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Allied ground losses:
1815 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1
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Coastal Guns at Ishieak, 52,46, firing at TF 1016
TF 1016 troops unloading over beach at Ishieak, 52,46

Allied ground losses:
171 casualties reported
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Air Combat

Strategic Bomber Offensive

Day Air attack on Niigata , at 67,40

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 27
Ki-102a Randy x 19

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 113

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 3 destroyed, 7 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 13 destroyed, 56 damaged

Mitsubishi Engines hits 42
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Day Air attack on Nagoya , at 64,42

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 16
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 12
Ki-100 Tony x 18

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 231

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 3 destroyed, 10 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
Ki-100 Tony: 4 destroyed, 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 10 destroyed, 41 damaged

Mitsubishi Engines hits 42
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Day Air attack on Nagoya , at 64,42

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 6
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 4
Ki-100 Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 218

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed, 21 damaged

Mitsubishi Engines hits 56
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Day Air attack on Nagoya , at 64,42

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 6
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 3
Ki-100 Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 47

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Mitsubishi Engines hits 20
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Placed some Oscars in Rangoon:

Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 30

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Ishieak

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3795 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 115

Defending force 14610 troops, 49 guns, 189 vehicles, Assault Value = 407
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Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 38974 troops, 561 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 1065

Defending force 66262 troops, 102 guns, 88 vehicles, Assault Value = 1166

Japanese ground losses:
477 casualties reported
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Not sure what happened here - a small NLF unit marched into enemy territory.

Ground combat at 43,53

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15440 troops, 108 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 387

Defending force 335 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9

Allied max assault: 425 - adjusted assault: 195

Japanese max defense: 7 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 195 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Ishieak

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 14610 troops, 49 guns, 189 vehicles, Assault Value = 407

Defending force 3795 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 115

Allied max assault: 496 - adjusted assault: 280

Japanese max defense: 62 - adjusted defense: 9

Allied assault odds: 31 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Ishieak base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
1236 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

Allied ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1
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Yangtze SNLF Wiped Out at Ishieak by attrition!!!
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Enemy Bomber offensive and assaults





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RE: Small atoll near Okinawas assaulted - 1/14/2008 10:45:26 PM   
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Overview of ac in pools and ac used thus far:




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RE: Small atoll near Okinawas assaulted - 1/14/2008 11:02:45 PM   
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Fight for Ishieak, that's OUR place!!!!

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2 Allied light cruisers sunk - 1/15/2008 12:10:33 AM   
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We will fight Fish, but direct confrontation isn't always the most effective way!
Several Imperial sucesses today.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/26/45

Air Combat

Our bombers finished two old Allied combatants:

Day Air attack on TF, near Ishieak at 52,46

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 36 - these were crack surviving KB dive bombers. BONSAI!!!
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Adelaide, Bomb hits 13, on fire, heavy damage
CL Tromp, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ishieak at 52,46

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 16
B5N Kate x 20
B7A Grace x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 12 destroyed
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
B7A Grace: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Adelaide, Torpedo hits 1, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
CL Tromp, Torpedo hits 1, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ishieak at 52,46

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Tromp, on fire, heavy damage
CL Adelaide, on fire, heavy damage
DD Collett
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Daytime Surface Combat

I wanted a decisive surface combat - but it didn't happened. Our elite ships landed a few
hits and took a couple in return.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Ishieak at 52,46

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CL Yahagi
CL Sakawa
CL Kitakami, Shell hits 1
DD Minegumo, Shell hits 1
DD Momo
DD Yadake
DD Azura
DD Sakaki
DD Hishi, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Collett, Shell hits 1
DE Williams
LCI(R) LCS(L)-11, Shell hits 1, on fire
LCI(G) LCI(G)-544, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LCI(M) LCI(M)-582
AK Russell R. Jones
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Ground Combat

Using Emily's we evacuated some aviation support and 3rd Armoured Div cadre from Bataan today.
Our remaining warriors will not be destroyed easily!

Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 67115 troops, 568 guns, 1380 vehicles, Assault Value = 1079

Defending force 65886 troops, 101 guns, 81 vehicles, Assault Value = 1176

Allied max assault: 917 - adjusted assault: 680

Japanese max defense: 913 - adjusted defense: 433

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
1139 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 7

Allied ground losses:
1450 casualties reported
Guns lost 42
Vehicles lost 32
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After a meticulous preparation the enemy shock attacked Colombo....only to find themselves
at a severe disadvantage!

Ground combat at Colombo

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 43548 troops, 380 guns, 541 vehicles, Assault Value = 1334

Defending force 17733 troops, 149 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 266

Allied max assault: 2302 - adjusted assault: 1144

Japanese max defense: 255 - adjusted defense: 1486

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)

Japanese ground losses:
1498 casualties reported
Guns lost 19

Allied ground losses:
2037 casualties reported
Guns lost 42
Vehicles lost 5
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Our garrison is wipe out...

Ground combat at Ishieak

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 14644 troops, 41 guns, 198 vehicles, Assault Value = 402

Defending force 1847 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 41

Allied max assault: 536 - adjusted assault: 227

Japanese max defense: 27 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 227 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
2804 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
435 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 13
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Surface Combat




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RE: 2 Allied light cruisers sunk - 1/15/2008 6:28:19 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/27/45

Surface Combat

Sent in some high exp patrol crafts (50-60 exp day/night) and they found the remains
of the enemy convoy and inflicted some damage!

Night Time Surface Combat, near Ishieak at 52,46

Japanese Ships
PC Ikino, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PC Otsu
PC Urumi, Shell hits 1
PC Murotsu, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Collett, Shell hits 1
DE Williams, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
LCI(M) LCI(M)-582
AK Russell R. Jones, Shell hits 2, on fire
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Bombardments

Old Fuso then bombarded Ishieak - should help slow down AF construction.

Naval bombardment of Ishieak, at 52,46

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso

Allied ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
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No big secret were Andy keeps his capital ships....

Naval bombardment of Bataan, at 42,51

Allied Ships
CA Hobart
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
CA Denver
CA Northampton
CA Houston
CA Detroit
CA Chicago
CA Chester
CA Canberra
CA Tuscaloosa
CA Minneapolis
BB Richelieu, heavy damage
BB Missouri
BB Wisconsin
BB Massachusetts
BB Washington
BB North Carolina, heavy damage
BB California
BB Maryland, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
1143 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on TF at 52,47

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
LCI(R) LCS(L)-11, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 52,47

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 3
D4Y Judy x 19
B7A Grace x 12
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 3 destroyed
B7A Grace: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DE Williams, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
AK Russell R. Jones, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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Ground Combat

Luzon is far from secured: It could take Andy some time to get rid of all our troops!

Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 52872 troops, 454 guns, 431 vehicles, Assault Value = 1086

Defending force 40706 troops, 66 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 728

Allied max assault: 1121 - adjusted assault: 510

Japanese max defense: 535 - adjusted defense: 121

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
1860 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Allied ground losses:
783 casualties reported
Guns lost 54
Vehicles lost 7
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Light Surface units on the attack!

With only a few destroyers remaining we have to use everything we got.




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RE: 2 Allied light cruisers sunk - 1/15/2008 10:46:57 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/28/45

Bombardments

Our valiant stand at Bataan continues.

Naval bombardment of Bataan, at 42,51

Allied Ships
CA Hobart
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
CA Denver
CA Northampton
CA Houston
CA Detroit
CA Chicago
CA Chester
CA Canberra
CA Tuscaloosa
CA Minneapolis
BB Richelieu, heavy damage
BB Missouri
BB Wisconsin
BB Massachusetts
BB Washington
BB North Carolina, heavy damage
BB California
BB Maryland, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
1042 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 4
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Air Combat

The convoy from Trimcomalle just wandered in front of our guns...

Day Air attack on TF at 19,23

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 27
Ki-100 Tony x 16
Ki-67 Peggy x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samuel Adams
AK Situla
AP Renville, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
LCI LCI-330, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Bolivar
LCI LCI-222, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Warrnambool
AK Autolycus, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SC SC-743, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
LCI LCI-448, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage - 3 torps into an LCI!?
AK Siantar, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
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Our LBA from Formosa was less fortunate!

Day Air attack on TF at 51,47

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 16 - old Kates in a kami role. Got 550 in the pools
G4M2 Betty x 22

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 43
F6F Hellcat x 61
F4U-1D Corsair x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 16 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 14 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged
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Enemy Appears in Strength





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RE: 2 Allied light cruisers sunk - 1/18/2008 3:09:11 PM   
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I have a question PZB. How are the late war japanese subs with high underwater speed behaving? Seeing anything useful in building these? What about the big sub-carriers. Did you build them?

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RE: 2 Allied light cruisers sunk - 1/18/2008 10:48:55 PM   
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I think I remeber a SenToku in action and the late Ha subs being bugged and having stopped dead in production one day from delivery.

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RE: 2 Allied light cruisers sunk - 1/19/2008 2:15:06 PM   
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Thanx for reminding me.
Half the new HA class subs all but ready for delivery but they stopped at 1 days of production remaining.
Bugger...

The large sub carriers have been useful. The numerous float planes have made them excellent scouts with very
long range. They've also scored a few good hits, but are very vulnerable - so I can't really recommend sending them into
combat in 1945

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RE: 2 Allied light cruisers sunk - 1/19/2008 6:47:18 PM   
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Today Andy sent his carriers to sweep our CAP before sending his B-29s in to hit our
Mitsubishi engines work. Lots of LR CAP Oscars moved in to support the defenders - didn't help
much against 144 Corsairs... That's my point exactly, current type of LR CAP can't be controlled
and should be abandoned altogether.

Again, with bad weather around, Andy was lucky. Had storms shut down his sweep his B-29s would have
burned. That has never happened thus far, and he's done it at least a dozen times

Our oil and resource situation remains good though, so I'm able to repair and convert a substantial
number of Mitsubishi engines. If a shortfall should occur there are many 2nd line ac that we can halt
producing for a while.

I was thinking about one thing: PUD means upgrading all ac types almost at will. I think a downgrade option
would have been perfect. All ac that have been upgraded should be possible to downgrade to the same ac types.
This would have allowed to use ac types in the pools if necessary - especially as kamikazes.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/29/45

Put some mines at Ishieak - that's the perfect way to put a small spanner in the enemy's works!

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TF 1034 encounters mine field at Ishieak (52,46)

Allied Ships
DD Morrison
DD John Henley
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TF 1080 encounters mine field at Ishieak (52,46)

Allied Ships
MSW Defense
MSW Scrimage
MSW Saunter
MSW Salute
MSW Scout
MSW Vigilance
DE Willmarth
DE Loeser
DE Holton
DE Harmon
DE Greenwood
DE Barber
DE Paul G. Baker
DD Hale
AP Cape Canso, Mine hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
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TF 1129 encounters mine field at Ishieak (52,46)

Allied Ships
AK Richard Randall, Mine hits 1

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
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Bombardments

Naval bombardment of Bataan, at 42,51

Allied Ships
CA Hobart
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
CA Denver
CA Northampton
CA Houston
CA Detroit
CA Chicago
CA Chester
CA Canberra
CA Tuscaloosa
CA Minneapolis
BB Richelieu, heavy damage
BB Missouri
BB Wisconsin
BB Massachusetts
BB Washington
BB North Carolina, heavy damage
BB California
BB Maryland, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
550 casualties reported
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Hamamatsu , at 64,43

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 30
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 44
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 13
Ki-100 Tony x 9

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 142

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 39 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 40 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 13 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 15 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 19 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on Hamamatsu , at 64,43

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 205

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 5 damaged

Mitsubishi Engines hits 46
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Day Air attack on Hamamatsu , at 64,43

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 25

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Mitsubishi Engines hits 5
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Day Air attack on Matsue , at 62,40

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 78

No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on Matsue , at 62,40

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 183

No Allied losses

Mitsubishi Engines hits 26
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Day Air attack on TF at 21,22

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 8
B7A Grace x 14
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 7

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 1
P-38J Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 3 damaged
B7A Grace: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Empire Lapwing
LCI LCI-329, Bomb hits 1, on fire
MSW Turkey
AP New Kent
AK Empire Johnson, Bomb hits 1
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Ground Combat

Can't praise the effort of our troops in Luzon highly enough. They're pinning down
enemy troops for a prolonged period of time!

Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 65429 troops, 509 guns, 1336 vehicles, Assault Value = 953

Defending force 60403 troops, 64 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 1031

Allied max assault: 792 - adjusted assault: 431

Japanese max defense: 563 - adjusted defense: 161

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
1009 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 6

Allied ground losses:
1360 casualties reported
Guns lost 23
Vehicles lost 36
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Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 51023 troops, 392 guns, 413 vehicles, Assault Value = 956

Defending force 38139 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 682

Allied max assault: 794 - adjusted assault: 473

Japanese max defense: 522 - adjusted defense: 127

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
351 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
1125 casualties reported
Guns lost 34
Vehicles lost 10
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RE: 2 Allied light cruisers sunk - 1/19/2008 10:11:23 PM   
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Quiet turn - enemy carriers moving back towards Luzon.
Placed some kamis in their way but they didn't want to die today...morale check probably
failed

Yamato is at 28 sys damage, went down 2 points and then stopped.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/30/45

Air Combat

Another suicide transport heading towards Vladivostok...only 1 ship this time.

Day Air attack on TF at 76,38

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 9
Ki-102a Randy x 19

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Vernon S. Hood, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Ground Combat

Another 1500 Allied casualties - we're almost trading 1-1!

Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 63428 troops, 477 guns, 1281 vehicles, Assault Value = 818

Defending force 56741 troops, 47 guns, 62 vehicles, Assault Value = 928

Allied max assault: 609 - adjusted assault: 418

Japanese max defense: 494 - adjusted defense: 61

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
713 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
615 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 36
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Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 49506 troops, 341 guns, 394 vehicles, Assault Value = 845

Defending force 37343 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 654

Allied max assault: 578 - adjusted assault: 353

Japanese max defense: 510 - adjusted defense: 97

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
911 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
838 casualties reported
Guns lost 17
Vehicles lost 6
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RE: 2 Allied light cruisers sunk - 1/20/2008 2:49:33 PM   
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Batan Island?

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Heavy B-29 losses - 93 lost today alone - 1/20/2008 10:50:56 PM   
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Nah, too close to Luzon - no way I can defend it. Not a very important base either, Andy will
simply bypass unless he needs it - which he doesn't.

Todays B-29 losses:

37 destroyed outright, 159 damaged.
In total 85 lost in A2A, 3 to FLAK, and 5 to ops losses.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/31/45

Air Combat

Day Air attack on Maizuru , at 62,41

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 10
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 22
Ki-100 Tony x 22
Ki-102a Randy x 21

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 276

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 5 destroyed, 12 damaged
Ki-100 Tony: 5 destroyed, 12 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 4 destroyed, 13 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 30 destroyed, 121 damaged

Mitsubishi Engines hits 42

Aircraft Attacking:
x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet - I find these low altitudes way off for B-29s.
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Day Air attack on Maizuru , at 62,41

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 4
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 8
Ki-100 Tony x 9
Ki-102a Randy x 8

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 176

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 7 destroyed, 38 damaged

Mitsubishi Engines hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
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This was a mistake by Andy no doubt

Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 23
J7W Shinden x 65
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12
Ki-100 Tony x 16

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 19 destroyed
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The cargo ship for Vladivostok was finished:

Day Air attack on TF at 74,37

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Vernon S. Hood, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Probing attacks: All but 1 kamis shot down by LR CAP Mustang:

Day Air attack on TF, near Ishieak at 52,46

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zeke x 5
A6M5c Zeke x 9

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 41
F6F Hellcat x 103
F4U-1D Corsair x 36
P-51D Mustang x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zeke: 5 destroyed
A6M5c Zeke: 9 destroyed

Allied Ships
DE Thomason
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Ground Combat

Andy is only using a few LCUs to suppress Luzon defenders - no doubt resting the other
for his next assault.

Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 62378 troops, 472 guns, 1243 vehicles, Assault Value = 723

Defending force 55138 troops, 40 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 879

Allied max assault: 514 - adjusted assault: 309

Japanese max defense: 494 - adjusted defense: 57

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
1197 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 4

Allied ground losses:
689 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 18
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Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 48578 troops, 311 guns, 385 vehicles, Assault Value = 759

Defending force 35115 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 591

Allied max assault: 451 - adjusted assault: 244

Japanese max defense: 403 - adjusted defense: 67

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
676 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
428 casualties reported
Guns lost 17
Vehicles lost 7
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I've intensified buildup of troops and supplies for the final months of the war.





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September 45 now: Took another pot shot at the Wasp - and missed - as usual.

Enemy TFs in Ishieak have been covered by T-storms for 4 consecutive days now.
Andy always bring bad weather


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/01/45

Air Combat

Day Air attack on TF, near Trimcomalee at 15,25

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 11 - mix of conventional and kami
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11 - kamis
Ki-100 Tony x 20

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 4
Spitfire XIV x 10
Beaufighter VIF x 7
P-38J Lightning x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 7 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 11 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 16 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire XIV: 2 damaged
Beaufighter VIF: 2 damaged

Allied Ships - 2 Oscars and a few kamikaze Bettys broke through; all missed
CV Wasp
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Ground Combat

First time a 1-1 odds in Colombo! Long time attrition and increased enemy supply levels no doubt.

Ground combat at Colombo

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 42481 troops, 328 guns, 541 vehicles, Assault Value = 1248

Defending force 16288 troops, 90 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 244

Allied max assault: 2166 - adjusted assault: 1502

Japanese max defense: 181 - adjusted defense: 799

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 9)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 8

Japanese ground losses:
574 casualties reported
Guns lost 20

Allied ground losses:
771 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
Vehicles lost 1
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RE: Heavy B-29 losses - 93 lost today alone - 1/21/2008 10:38:03 PM   
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If he goes for Amami which I believe is a clear piece of terrain then he can have a fighter base from which to LRCAP his invasion fleets when he makes for Kyushu. This would help him overcome his previous huge problems with trying to defend his CVs whilst also LRCAPing the invasion fleet and sweeping your defensive CAP using ONLY CV-based fighters.

If I were him Amami is a no-brainer. It has huge operational and strategic advantages ( lets him use Army fighters and pilot pools to attrit your forces while keeping his precious navy pilot pools in reserve ) BUT we've always seen AndyMac do some strange things. It is entirely possible he'll try for Okinawa itself or Kyushu itself. Still, I'd garrison Amami VERY heavily as that's the most sensible place for him to go with a view to basing army fighters and gaining air superiority over Kyushu

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Yes, it's my though also - but if I stack 50 units in Amami Andy will go to the next target on his list
Got rid of 155 naval fighters and their pilots today, should help a bit.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/02/45

ASW Attacks

One of our mine laying subs got in the way of the enemy express train:

ASW attack at 53,46

Japanese Ships
SS I-178, hits 6

Allied Ships
DD Murray
DD Morrison
DD Miller
DD Metcalf
DD McDermut
DD Hoel
DD John Henley
BB Alabama
CVE St. Lo
CV Shangri-La
CLAA Tucson
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Bombardments

This express is almost daily. Tried to send in a sub but asw ac hit it...

Naval bombardment of Bataan, at 42,51

Allied Ships
CA Hobart
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
CA Denver
CA Northampton
CA Houston
CA Detroit
CA Chicago
CA Chester
CA Canberra
CA Tuscaloosa
CA Minneapolis
BB Richelieu, heavy damage
BB Missouri
BB Wisconsin
BB Massachusetts
BB Washington
BB North Carolina, heavy damage
BB California
BB Maryland, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
1179 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Night Air Combat

After yesterdays crippling losses the B-29s came at night...with little effect.

Night Air attack on Nagaoka , at 66,41

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 47

No Allied losses
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Air Combat

I've placed 380 aviation support on Naha to try to get as many as possible of my grunts airborne!
Think it worked - pleased with todays performance against enemy superior numbers. Too bad we're not allowed
to use Shindens speed to avoid escorts and savage bombers...but the enemy naval fighters is the most
valuable target anyway. So come si come sa...

We lost 126 fighters and claimed 155 in this first round - a good result against 123 Corsairs
and superior enemy numbers in September 45!-)

Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 40
J7W Shinden x 79
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9
Ki-100 Tony x 26

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 30
F6F Hellcat x 107
F4U-1D Corsair x 123
TBM Avenger x 110

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 42 destroyed
J7W Shinden: 53 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 10 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 21 destroyed
A6M5c Zeke: 1 destroyed
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 19 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 96 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 40 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
197 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 50
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Some of our Shindens are veery tough nuts!
10 Mustangs were also claimed today.

Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 14

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged
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If enemy carriers had been covered by the T-storm in the area these bombers - and the next -
would have been toast. Andy did it again...he can turn bad weather on and off as he likes, I'm sure of it!

Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 10

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 4
PB4Y Liberator x 7
B-24J Liberator x 78

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-100 Tony: 1 destroyed
A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zeke: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
234 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 86
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 10

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 5
B-24J Liberator x 166

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zeke: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
181 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 127
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In India another convoy passes by heading for Trim - loaded with what?

Day Air attack on TF at 19,23

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 14
G4M2 Betty x 3
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 9
Ki-67 Peggy x 12

Allied aircraft
Mosquito FB.VI x 6
P-38J Lightning x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Mosquito FB.VI: 1 destroyed
P-38J Lightning: 5 destroyed

Allied Ships
LCI LCI-443
MSW Warrnambool
LCI LCI-85
LCI LCI-436
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Yanam was better defended:

Day Air attack on TF, near Yanam at 22,21

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 12
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 8
Ki-67 Peggy x 12

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 1
F4U-1D Corsair x 14
P-38J Lightning x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 7 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 7 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 damaged
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Since 4-8 Invaders attacks Rangoon each day I placed some Oscars there to give them some training.
Invader morale sux and a hit is all it takes before they all go home.

Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 30

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
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Spotted some enemy TFs near Kiska but our Bettys failed to hit the agile targets.

Day Air attack on TF, near Kiska Island at 92,35

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Bell
DD Chevalier
DD Brush

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 149964 troops, 1373 guns, 1218 vehicles, Assault Value = 2768

Defending force 50752 troops, 22 guns, 57 vehicles, Assault Value = 801

Allied max assault: 2710 - adjusted assault: 2887

Japanese max defense: 439 - adjusted defense: 47

Allied assault odds: 61 to 1

Japanese ground losses: - the defenders at Batan is about to give in...it had to come!
13799 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 15

Allied ground losses:
3012 casualties reported - but they certainly took a lot with them!
Guns lost 49
Vehicles lost 19
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RE: 155 US Navy jocks learn to swim - 1/22/2008 5:10:34 PM   
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The fruits from Sakhalin are coming in: 200k crude as well as 50k resources
and 30k supplies have been 'harvested'. This will be helpful.

The Yamato is down to 27 sys, another 6 months and we'll be ready :p


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/03/45

Air Combat

No hope for a strike in the AM phase: weather was poor.
The poor Oscars went in though:

Day Air attack on Ishieak , at 52,46

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 83
F6F Hellcat x 66
F4U-1D Corsair x 49

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on Ishieak , at 52,46

Japanese aircraft
C6N Myrt x 1
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 30

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 83
F6F Hellcat x 66
F4U-1D Corsair x 49

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 18 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 45
F4U-1D Corsair x 45

No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on Ishieak , at 52,46

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9
Ki-46-III Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 80
F6F Hellcat x 61
F4U-1D Corsair x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed
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Andy continued to pound Naha - not much to pound though.

Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Mosquito B.XXVI x 15
P-51D Mustang x 24
B-29 Superfortress x 198

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 4 destroyed
J7W Shinden: 4 destroyed
A6M5c Zeke: 1 destroyed
H8K Emily: 2 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Mosquito B.XXVI: 1 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
134 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 25
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 471
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
B-24J Liberator x 147

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
130 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 276
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In the PM phase weather cleared and both target and Shanghai were in the clear.
As before even the best preparations comes to naught as WitP doesn't allow me to launch
proper strikes: 28/230 fighters participated while 60/240 bombers came along from Shanghai.

Day Air attack on TF, near Ishieak at 52,46

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 27
G4M2 Betty x 25
P1Y Frances x 13
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 17
Ki-100 Tony x 9
Ki-67 Peggy x 24

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 80
F6F Hellcat x 61
F4U-1D Corsair x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 16 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 25 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 13 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 17 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 9 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 18 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 28 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 15 damaged
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 146821 troops, 1269 guns, 1201 vehicles, Assault Value = 2522

Defending force 44369 troops, 12 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 661

Allied max assault: 2190 - adjusted assault: 1780

Japanese max defense: 356 - adjusted defense: 33

Allied assault odds: 53 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
6648 casualties reported
Guns lost 45
Vehicles lost 4

Allied ground losses:
1636 casualties reported
Guns lost 61
Vehicles lost 18
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Disappointing participation

In China I could get 1000 bombers to hit an AF, but in the Pacific it's plain impossible
to get even 200 bombers to sortie from one base. I've handpicked leaders, rested all units
and provided supply - but nope.

Andy is allowed to launch potentially vulnerable operations because I'm not able to properly
wield the weapons that remains.




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RE: 155 US Navy jocks learn to swim - 1/23/2008 12:35:28 AM   
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I'm taking the Imperial Guards Division back to the Home Islands.
Somehow it's never been were the toughest fighting has been.
Maybe because my opponents have always avoided the heavily fortified areas it has
been based in.

Used the 'old trick' to get a few air units with no ac and only pilots out of Naha.
Transferred in a single fragment ac of the same type and disbanded it into the skeleton
unit and flew it out.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/04/45

Air Combat

Not sure why these attacks continue against Naha:

Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 21
F6F Hellcat x 123
F4U-1D Corsair x 139
TBM Avenger x 137

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 62
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Allied aircraft
Mosquito B.XXVI x 15
P-51D Mustang x 27
B-29 Superfortress x 158

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 171
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 4
B-24J Liberator x 154

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
124 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 142
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
B-24J Liberator x 122

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 76
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Managed to launch some kamis: They targeted transports - not juicy cv's:

Day Air attack on TF, near Ishieak at 52,46

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 2
A6M5c Zeke x 15

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 46
F6F Hellcat x 66
F4U-1D Corsair x 49

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zeke: 15 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Stembel
AP Baxter
DE Thomason, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 145251 troops, 1207 guns, 1196 vehicles, Assault Value = 2398

Defending force 35641 troops, 3 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 481

Allied max assault: 2088 - adjusted assault: 2555

Japanese max defense: 279 - adjusted defense: 29

Allied assault odds: 88 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
6650 casualties reported
Guns lost 21
Vehicles lost 97

Allied ground losses:
472 casualties reported
Guns lost 21
Vehicles lost 5
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The end in Colombo is near: has been a long and good defense with few assets!

Ground combat at Colombo

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 42138 troops, 321 guns, 538 vehicles, Assault Value = 1216

Defending force 15444 troops, 78 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 201

Allied max assault: 2118 - adjusted assault: 1288

Japanese max defense: 164 - adjusted defense: 286

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 8)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4

Japanese ground losses:
1141 casualties reported
Guns lost 42

Allied ground losses:
1252 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 3
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RE: 155 US Navy jocks learn to swim - 1/23/2008 4:11:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB

Air Combat

Not sure why these attacks continue against Naha:



Perhaps it's just pilot training.
We all know Andy's view on 'backwater training' - this seems to be, from my personal interpretation, 'operational training'.

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Colombo falls - 1/23/2008 6:05:58 PM   
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Yes, Andy is getting all the free operational training he needs

Colombo fell today and more units in Bataan were wiped out, including the 3rd Armored.
That's good since the cadre will now rebuild faster at Nagasaki!

The Fuso and Kirishima are down to 11 sys damage, also hoping to have 2 heavy cruisers ready
within a month. The last battle line will then be reformed with Yamato at its head.
2 other damaged bb's are still far from operational with 60-70 sys damag remaining.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/05/45

Bombardments

Naval bombardment of Bataan, at 42,51

Allied Ships
CA Hobart
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
CA Denver
CA Northampton
CA Houston
CA Detroit
CA Chicago
CA Chester
CA Canberra
CA Tuscaloosa
CA Minneapolis
BB Richelieu, heavy damage
BB Missouri
BB Wisconsin
BB Massachusetts
BB Washington
BB North Carolina, heavy damage
BB California
BB Maryland, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
792 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Air Combat

Some Reppus over Kadina got a lot of targets!

Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 15

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 20
Mosquito PR.IX x 4
B-24J Liberator x 137

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged
H8K Emily: 2 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 5 destroyed
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
B-24J Liberator: 17 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 29
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 158
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Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 6

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
B-24J Liberator x 101

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 94
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 8
F6F Hellcat x 108
F4U-1D Corsair x 115
TBM Avenger x 97

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 59
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 6
F6F Hellcat x 6
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
TBM Avenger x 23

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 26
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 7

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 144247 troops, 1170 guns, 1196 vehicles, Assault Value = 2311

Defending force 27365 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 308

Allied max assault: 1999 - adjusted assault: 2021

Japanese max defense: 155 - adjusted defense: 15

Allied assault odds: 134 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
5025 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
731 casualties reported
Guns lost 23
Vehicles lost 8
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Ground combat at Colombo

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 40939 troops, 299 guns, 537 vehicles, Assault Value = 1115

Defending force 12958 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 138

Allied max assault: 1862 - adjusted assault: 1142

Japanese max defense: 106 - adjusted defense: 139

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Colombo base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
1100 casualties reported
Guns lost 13

Allied ground losses:
713 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 5
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Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Bataan



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Today hundreds of B-29s bombed Hiroshima and one of them dropped a nuke!
42 B-29s and 19 Corsairs were shot down while 15 Shindens were lost in defensive operations.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/06/45

Air Combat

Enemy carriers sent Corsairs over Hiroshima today to soften up the defence there:

Day Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 25
C6N1-S Myrt x 31
Ki-102a Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 55

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 6 destroyed
C6N1-S Myrt: 16 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 18 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Then wave after wave of B-29s arrived!

Day Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 19
C6N1-S Myrt x 11
Ki-102a Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 109

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 6 destroyed, 13 damaged

Manpower hits 39
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Day Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 18
C6N1-S Myrt x 10
Ki-102a Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 255

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 8 destroyed, 32 damaged

Manpower hits 198
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The third carried an atomic bomb!!

Day Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 8
C6N1-S Myrt x 4
Ki-102a Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 12
B-29 Superfortress x 204

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 2 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 2 destroyed, 17 damaged

ATOMIC BOMB hits 1
Manpower hits 141
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Day Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41

Japanese aircraft
J7W Shinden x 7
C6N1-S Myrt x 3
Ki-102a Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 44
B-29 Superfortress x 69

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W Shinden: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 6 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 14 damaged

Mitsubishi Engines hits 20
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Ground Combat

Only 1 regiment now remains in Bataan!

Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 143849 troops, 1157 guns, 1206 vehicles, Assault Value = 2278

Defending force 14988 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 130

Allied max assault: 1979 - adjusted assault: 2606

Japanese max defense: 65 - adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 372 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
20711 casualties reported
Guns lost 66

Allied ground losses:
179 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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A-bomb hits Hiroshima/Kure

The results were horrible for the population, but little of military value was achieved.
The Imperial Government condemns the use of weapons of mass destruction and calls it a crime against human kind!!!

Stats for Hiroshima/Kure after the attack:
Manpower (6) x 20
Heavy Industry (105) x 556
Resources (69) x 177
Naval Ship yards 45
Merchant Ship yards 30
Repair Yards 23
Armaments industry 12

Aircraft industry is slightly damaged - but it is not know what the status was before the attack.
Engined output in the Mitsubishi works are down by 85% from 70 to 9 - but massive B-29 attacks were directed against them,
and a-bomb damage must have been slight.

In a summary we can conclude with that we have more to fear from conventional B-29 attacks than from another A-bomb attack!





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RE: Enemy drops A-bomb over Hiroshima!! - 1/24/2008 12:36:33 AM   
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quote:

In a summary we can conclude with that we have more to fear from conventional B-29 attacks than from another A-bomb attack!

All in all dark day for the empire
But good day for your points though!

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We need some new counter-measures against these buzzards that keep invading us!
I'm not willing to burn our strategic air reserves for nothing, but some plans can be prepared.

In the final phase of the war I'm also planning a last massive kamikaze effort.






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Escorting Shindens should whoop some a$$es 

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RE: Enemy drops A-bomb over Hiroshima!! - 1/24/2008 10:46:50 AM   
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Since you can't actually achieve much with proper strikes would you never consider just gathering your LBA, setting their altitude to 3000 feet or so and setting them on NAVAL SEARCH 100%. That way you will get significant attritional benefits in terms of single Betty and Helen bombers nipping out of the clouds to drop bombs on US TFs, massively reduce your losses to enemy CAP and get the chance to save up your bombers until they can actually achieve something with the more traditional mass attacks.

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