Slitherine

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I would think that a game that aspires to track every man, aircraft and bullet in the theater could eliminate a huge hole in the fog of war with some changes to this area....are there plans to curtail the valuable intel a player gains from the aar?

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Do you count their children born in Hawaii as Japanese nationals?

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ORIGINAL: herwin

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ORIGINAL: witpqs
Do you count their children born in Hawaii as Japanese nationals?

The Japanese did.

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ORIGINAL: HMSWarspite

I have seen the tidy up of the overly available underway replenishment that was in originally. Will early war RN oilers be classified as AO or TK? The RN was heavily hindered by lack of proper along side capabilty, and it has already been shown that towed hose is slow. Some players use the UK ships all over the place, ignoring this.

I would favour some real restrictions on inter-operabilty between navies, to reflect that oiling was different, and whilst RN sailors will eat ice cream and drink Coke if forced, aircraft spares, ammo (for most things other than 20mm etc) cannot be obtained from USN supply sources ("15inch ammo anyone", " you want a what for a Pegasus? A sleeve valve? No, you want a clothing depot this is aircraft stores pal, and who the h*%% is Pegasus?" ). This would have to be thought about but the early war allies get a free ride by mixing forces freely. I know a parallel supply chain will be impossible (not a new game and all), but some limit would be nice. How's about a negative on cross national TFs, and a restriction on resupply from a non-correct nationality base? It could be eased in 1944-5. You could get very extreme and put a negative on cross nationality benefits on any of the funnies (ARD, repair/depot ships etc - to reflect the unfamiliarity of systems, lack of tools and spares etc)

Any chance? This has been one of my biggest bug bears (beyond those already discussed). I know some UK kit was US! But if limited to naval vessels I think would reimpose a correct planning limitation on the Allies...

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ORIGINAL: herwin

Approximately 30% of the population of Hawaii in December 1941 were Japanese citizens. There were 160,000 persons in Hawaii of Japanese origin in 1941 (40% of the population and the largest racial group). 120000 were American citizens by birth in Hawaii. 113,000 were Japanese citizens--40,000 Japanese immigrants and 73,000 with dual citizenship.

There were approximately 120,000 persons interned on the West Coast, but because the criterion for internment was any degree of Japanese ancestry (white Japanese subjects like my great grandfather were not interned), it's clear that the motivation was racial prejudice rather than military necessity. Given the large percentage of Japanese in the Hawaiian population, interning more than the small minority who were actively supporting the Japanese Empire was not considered feasible or desirable. At the end of 1944, SCOTUS held that detainment of loyal citizens was unconstitutional, and the internment policy was immediately abandoned.

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ORIGINAL: Shark7

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ORIGINAL: herwin

Approximately 30% of the population of Hawaii in December 1941 were Japanese citizens. There were 160,000 persons in Hawaii of Japanese origin in 1941 (40% of the population and the largest racial group). 120000 were American citizens by birth in Hawaii. 113,000 were Japanese citizens--40,000 Japanese immigrants and 73,000 with dual citizenship.

There were approximately 120,000 persons interned on the West Coast, but because the criterion for internment was any degree of Japanese ancestry (white Japanese subjects like my great grandfather were not interned), it's clear that the motivation was racial prejudice rather than military necessity. Given the large percentage of Japanese in the Hawaiian population, interning more than the small minority who were actively supporting the Japanese Empire was not considered feasible or desirable. At the end of 1944, SCOTUS held that detainment of loyal citizens was unconstitutional, and the internment policy was immediately abandoned.

Well looking back through the eyes of historians, you do get the impression that we interned massive numbers of people with Japanese ancestory. And those of German ancestory were not interned to that degree, so it was certainly a product of fear and racial prejudice. And many of those interned considered themselves American and not Japanese. The whole internment program was a bad policy.

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ORIGINAL: PzB

To many pages to read through....so can someone brief me regarding ship construction
after the historical VJ Day?

The Allied - Japanese post war production schedule will be implemented I hope?

In my stock game that's getting close to 1946 I've run out of ships to produce a long time
ago and is desperately short of destroyers while all my yards are idle.

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ORIGINAL: PzB

Of the Akizuku class 16 units were planned:
12 units built, 6 sunk in combat, 6 scrapped, 4 canceled.

Of the Shimakaze 17 ships were planned but only Shimakaze was ever built.
The other 16 were cancelled.

If Jap ship industry is alive I don't see why these units shouldn't be possible to produce.
Mini subs are well and good, but unless the post VJ Day scenarios are updated with post war units the game should end
in August 1945.

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Some Japanese TKs were equipped for underway replenishment. To identify them, look at the underway replenishment groups that accompanied IJN TFs. The tankers that accompanied the KB were in this category.

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ORIGINAL: spence

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Some Japanese TKs were equipped for underway replenishment. To identify them, look at the underway replenishment groups that accompanied IJN TFs. The tankers that accompanied the KB were in this category.

The procedure was considered somewhat theoretical in the IJN and the initial experiments were conducted as the tankers and oilers sailed to rendezvous with the KB just before the PH strike.

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ORIGINAL: herwin

Some Japanese TKs were equipped for underway replenishment. To identify them, look at the underway replenishment groups that accompanied IJN TFs. The tankers that accompanied the KB were in this category.

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ORIGINAL: HMSWarspite

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ORIGINAL: herwin

Some Japanese TKs were equipped for underway replenishment. To identify them, look at the underway replenishment groups that accompanied IJN TFs. The tankers that accompanied the KB were in this category.

This, and my post give me an idea: what we really need are 3 ship types! AO for full alongside replenshment, tankers for no underway replenshment, and a middle class for over the stern replenishment. The rates would be several times higher for an AO, and Tk would be zero (at sea).The middle one would then be much slower. You could call it an RFA! Of course, you would need to call the IJN ones something else

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ORIGINAL: Shark7



Basically you are wanting to see 'Dead in the Water' replinishment capability. Could be done, but the ships have to come to a complete stop, it takes longer, and if the seas aren't calm, you run into problems.

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ORIGINAL: HMSWarspite

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ORIGINAL: Shark7

Basically you are wanting to see 'Dead in the Water' replinishment capability. Could be done, but the ships have to come to a complete stop, it takes longer, and if the seas aren't calm, you run into problems.

Although all I actually want (in game terms) is less oil tonnage transferred per operation point for over the stern oiling - and some way of telling them to transfer what you can in 50% of the turn and make some distance for the rest, rather than being forced to spend all op points at it becasue of the slow transfer.

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ORIGINAL: JWE

The game is not that fine grained. You either refuel, or you don't. Refueling, at sea, is governed by one piece of refuel code.