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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/2/2008 1:31:31 AM

mikul82

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John Tiller's Campaign Series
TOAW3
Highway to the Reich
Forge of Freedom (no idea how to play it yet)
For Liberty
Gates of Troy
Chariots of War
Tin Soliders Alexander and Caesar
Steel Panthers WAW General's Edition
Close Combat: CoI
Uncommon Valor
Starshatter (whatever the latest one was, the damn game STILL won't work correctly on my computer)
Massive Assault (old but lots of fun!)
Case Blue and Banzai for IL-2/Pacific Fighters

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/2/2008 1:52:44 PM

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Woooow I'm amazed by how many matrix games some of you have

Next question is how do you find time to play with them

I'm beggining to think I was born ten years earlier than I should have had, no internet when I was single and with lots of time, then problem was money

Anyway my list is no near as long as yours:

GG World at War
GG A World Divided
Commander Europe at War
GG War Between The States (beta tester) coming soon

Definitely I have to increase it

, I've seen some good titles I wouldn't mind having.

Regards

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/2/2008 2:24:56 PM

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Korsun Pocket
Across the Dnepr
Battles in Normandy
Battles in Italy
Battlefront
Commander Europe at War (or something like that)\
John Tiller's Campaign Series
GG World at War
Uncommon Valor
War in the Pacific
Highway to the Reich
Conquest of the Aegean
Battles from the Bulge (beta tester)

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/3/2008 12:07:09 AM

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Korsun Pocket
Across the Dnepr
Airborne Assault
HTTR
Battlefront
Advanced Tactics
UV
WITP
Commander Europe at War
Battles in Italy
Battles in Normandy
Battlefront
Panzer Command
Close Combat Cross of Iron
Banzai IL2 Missions
TOAW
Forge of Freedom
Carriers at War
Flashpoint Germany
HANW
HCE

Matrix sell them but I bought them seperately
BOB Wings of Victory
Spartan
Gates of Troy

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/3/2008 4:35:51 PM

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I think I'm only one of three people who bought Supermacy: Four Paths to Power!

A fun little game, that one. Some of its excellent ideas deserved a slightly more meaty overall package, maybe.

With the possible exception of the sports games nothing other than 'pure' wargames seems to do that well here, really. Even that seems limited to WW2 (and no apologies for moaning about that again).. Tin Soldiers and Flashpoint Germany (two of the four best Matrix products IMHO, the others being the Panther games and WitP) are conspicuous by their absence from most of those lists as well.

Yes, i agree it's werid at least that a game like witp (which is a kind of Matrix's flagship) isn't included in all those lists....
But this makes me think about a strange fact that i've always found strange.
I've heard many "well acknowleged" people in these formus saying that witp is far from being a Matrix's BestSellers...that there are many games by MAtrix which sold a lot more...but then again i cannot understand why the Witp forum is absolutely (hands down) the most followed forum among all these matrix's forums...
So the question is: which relationship exists between numbers of sold copies and "forum success"??

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/3/2008 5:07:30 PM

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So the question is: which relationship exists between numbers of sold copies and "forum success"??

I don't understand your question. The choice of "which" requires at least an outline of what the choices are to chose between.

Are you asking "which" without offring a list of choices, or are you really asking "what" relationship exists, which allows for speculation?

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/3/2008 5:23:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

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So the question is: which relationship exists between numbers of sold copies and "forum success"??

I don't understand your question. The choice of "which" requires at least an outline of what the choices are to chose between.

Are you asking "which" without offring a list of choices, or are you really asking "what" relationship exists, which allows for speculation?

Sorry for the bad use of english grammar. I meant "what". Speculation, not a choice between two alternatives.

Sorry

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/3/2008 5:55:51 PM

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Gen.Hoepner
So the question is: what relationship exists between numbers of sold copies and "forum success"??

I agree, I wonder which are the best selling Matrix games. It would be interesting whether the interest in the WitP forum is reflected in sales or whether the quiet majority just bought Supermacy: Four Paths to Power and are still sitting there playing it madly with no time left to go on the forum.

P.S your Italian is vastly superior to my English

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/3/2008 6:16:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

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ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

So the question is: which relationship exists between numbers of sold copies and "forum success"??

I don't understand your question. The choice of "which" requires at least an outline of what the choices are to chose between.

Are you asking "which" without offring a list of choices, or are you really asking "what" relationship exists, which allows for speculation?

Sorry for the bad use of english grammar. I meant "what". Speculation, not a choice between two alternatives.

Sorry

I thought I knew what you were looking for and I did not mean to disparage you in any way in light of the fact that English is likely not your primary language.

I will venture to speculate.

I believe the reason why the WitP forum may get a far higher utilization than the forums for other games, that may well be selling just as well if not better then WitP, is the strong facilitation of player vs. player via PBEM.

This feature has lead to a vibrant community of gamers who use the forum for general communication about the game.

Many of Matrix's other titles have no PBEM, or have live internet play capabilities that the "gamer" community has yet to embrace on the scale they have with PBEM.

In addition many are purchased and played solo which is not conducive to heavy forum traffic.

All this may point to the fact that forum king may not be the sale leader.

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/3/2008 6:51:46 PM

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Hi All,

In reality the relationship between copies sold and forum activity is probably random. That is that you may have a game that sold a large number of copies and the buyers are mostly lurkers and not posters. Or vice versa.

Also there is sometimes a small number of very dedicated players who post a lot. If you look at the witp forum you will see that many, many posts are from the same group of people who obviously love the game.

I am checking this post because I am nosy and want to know what games others bought.

Regards John

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/3/2008 8:04:09 PM

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Confess John...Get it off your chest ....Reveal all.....show us what you've got

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/3/2008 10:26:46 PM

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Hi Punk Reaper,

If you check the first page you will see that I have already listed the games I have.

regards John

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/3/2008 10:56:19 PM

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quote:

If you check the first page you will see that I have already listed the games I have.

regards John

Sorry.....memory of a fish.....a fish with an extra short memory

What were we talking about...

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/4/2008 12:33:21 AM

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I'll go with Grell's list. Close enough for me.

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Hi,

I thought it would be interesting to see what games everybody has. I'll start with my list.

Titans of Steel
Highway to the Reich
Korsun Pocket
Uncommon Valor
Starshatter
War in the Pacific
Campaigns on the Danube
Battles in Normandy
Battles in Italy
Crown of Glory
Squad Assault (Thanks for reminding me Sarge)
War Plan Orange
Norm Kogers the Operational Art of War III
Conquest of the Aegean
Panzer Command Operation Winter Storm
World at War A World Divided
Forge of Freedom
Battlefront
Close Combat Cross of Iron
John Tiller's Campaign Series
Carriers at War
Commander Europe at War
Guns of August
Advanced Tactics
Napoleon in Italy
John Tiller's Battleground Napoleonic Wars
John Tiller's Battleground Civil War
Empires in Arms

Regards,

Grell

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/4/2008 11:00:33 AM

Gen.Hoepner

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

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ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

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ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

So the question is: which relationship exists between numbers of sold copies and "forum success"??

I don't understand your question. The choice of "which" requires at least an outline of what the choices are to chose between.

Are you asking "which" without offring a list of choices, or are you really asking "what" relationship exists, which allows for speculation?

Sorry for the bad use of english grammar. I meant "what". Speculation, not a choice between two alternatives.

Sorry

I thought I knew what you were looking for and I did not mean to disparage you in any way in light of the fact that English is likely not your primary language.

I will venture to speculate.

I believe the reason why the WitP forum may get a far higher utilization than the forums for other games, that may well be selling just as well if not better then WitP, is the strong facilitation of player vs. player via PBEM.

This feature has lead to a vibrant community of gamers who use the forum for general communication about the game.

Many of Matrix's other titles have no PBEM, or have live internet play capabilities that the "gamer" community has yet to embrace on the scale they have with PBEM.

In addition many are purchased and played solo which is not conducive to heavy forum traffic.

All this may point to the fact that forum king may not be the sale leader.

Don't worry, it's ok

I agree on the PBEM factor....but i also think that in someway the forum activity brings visibility to a title and visibility brings more coustomers (on a certain degree).
I've been doing an aar in the witp forum starting from november 2007...in less than 5 months it had reached the 42,000 hits!!!

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/4/2008 2:05:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

I agree on the PBEM factor....but i also think that in someway the forum activity brings visibility to a title and visibility brings more coustomers (on a certain degree).
I've been doing an aar in the witp forum starting from november 2007...in less than 5 months it had reached the 42,000 hits!!!

I agree. One would seem to fuel the other in a sort of reciprocal cycle.

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/4/2008 4:55:08 PM

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Uncommon Valor
WITP
Crown of Glory
Norm Kogers the Operational Art of War III
Maximum Football
Panzer Command Operation Winter Storm
Airborne Assault
John Tiller's Campaign Series
WAW

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/4/2008 5:28:49 PM

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Is there one I dont own yet

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/4/2008 5:53:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: Titanwarrior89

I'll go with Grell's list. Close enough for me.

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ORIGINAL: Grell

Hi,

I thought it would be interesting to see what games everybody has. I'll start with my list.

Titans of Steel
Highway to the Reich
Korsun Pocket
Uncommon Valor
Starshatter
War in the Pacific
Campaigns on the Danube
Battles in Normandy
Battles in Italy
Crown of Glory
Squad Assault (Thanks for reminding me Sarge)
War Plan Orange
Norm Kogers the Operational Art of War III
Conquest of the Aegean
Panzer Command Operation Winter Storm
World at War A World Divided
Forge of Freedom
Battlefront
Close Combat Cross of Iron
John Tiller's Campaign Series
Carriers at War
Commander Europe at War
Guns of August
Advanced Tactics
Napoleon in Italy
John Tiller's Battleground Napoleonic Wars
John Tiller's Battleground Civil War
Empires in Arms

Regards,

Grell

LOL! Titanwarrior89 ,

You lazy bugger!

Regards,

Grell

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/5/2008 1:30:54 AM

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War In The Pacific (Well I bought it but my extended download is apparently over. I own a serial # and no game)
Flashpoint Germany
Korsun Pocket
Across the Dnepr
World At War
Operational Art of War III
Conquest of the Aegean
Close Combat - Cross of Iron
Commander - Europe at War
American Civil War � The Blue and the Gray
Guns Of August
Advanced Tactics
(From way back) Massive Assault

That's about $700.00 worth.

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/5/2008 12:29:01 PM

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Gary Grigsbys World at War and War in the Pacific.

I saw a couple of you have StarShatter. How is that? i've been thinking about getting it!

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/5/2008 5:29:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy

Gary Grigsbys World at War and War in the Pacific.

I saw a couple of you have StarShatter. How is that? i've been thinking about getting it!

Hi ILS

The original Starshatter came out when WitP came out in 2004. That's the one I own.

Regards,

Grell

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/5/2008 5:37:14 PM

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It would be faster for me to compile a list of games I DIDN'T buy.

The bad part is that I'm totally serious.

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/5/2008 5:45:56 PM

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LOL! Larry that is funny!

Regards,

Grell

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/5/2008 10:05:46 PM

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LOL! Larry that is funny!

Regards,

Grell

Actually it's embarrassing.

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/5/2008 10:41:32 PM

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If you've got the money enjoy it, you can't take it with you, or you could send it to me to spend.

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/6/2008 12:11:56 AM

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If you've got the money enjoy it, you can't take it with you, or you could send it to me to spend.

Which Matrix game do you desire the most?

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/6/2008 12:31:11 AM

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Wow, I only have four (SPWaW Generals Edition, Pure Sim Baseball, Close Combat:CoI, and Reach For the Stars). I bought RFTS at the 2005 Columbus convention, so I couldn't get a refund. Oh, well, I'll accept the $20 writeoff. 3 winners out of 4 is fine.

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/6/2008 12:53:20 AM

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RFTS stinks anyways so you missed nothing in my opinion. That's one that I stopped trying to play long ago. I just removed Puresim 2007 a few minutes ago. I installed the last patch and it gives an error at each start.

Oh well, back to Baseball Mogul 2008!

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RE: Which Matrix Games Do You Own? - 4/6/2008 1:42:39 AM

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RFTS stinks anyways so you missed nothing in my opinion. That's one that I stopped trying to play long ago. I just removed Puresim 2007 a few minutes ago. I installed the last patch and it gives an error at each start.

Oh well, back to Baseball Mogul 2008!

Hang on. PS 1.71 works perfectly for me. What error are you getting? I can't let you go away from PS -- this is a true classic, and I want you to come back to it. Either respond here, or (better) go to the PS forum and post your problem, OK?

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