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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/9/2008 7:02:00 PM

HansBolter

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quote:

@hans:

remember, that every operational fighter was flying the CAP. thats nearly 400 fighters and all pilots were well rested and experienced with 99 moral. also, the air battles location was right at the half of the normal range of the A6M2 at a point between GG, lae and rabaul and not at GG.

also, they didnt fought against allied level bombers (the japanese CAP sucks here) but against single engine navy planes which are easier to shoot down.

and finaly, the pilots got a extra ration of sushi before takeing off. this "light food" did not hindered them in the fight.

Bigbaba,

In this particular case it does not appear to have been an excessive abuse. The excessive abuse I speak of is early in many games when the IJN is making bombardment runs on PM with complete impunity as a result of LRCAP flown from Rabual. That's the part that's a joke. The IJN TF sits a couple hexes south of GG with sufficient CAP over it to preclude any sorties against it by the American bombers based at PM.

If the IJN could have flown effective LRCAP from Rabaul to a point south of GG historically they could have invaded GG without having to put their carriers at risk covering the GG invasion fleet as they did at the Battle of the Coral Sea.

The ability of the Japanese player to shut down PM with bombardment runs without having to cover those TFs with LRCAP form carriers in close proximity is what is a joke.

CAP is all about maintaining a presence. LRCAP is all about time over target. The further you have to go to reach the target, the more difficult it becomes to maintain a presence. Odd that with so many idividual sorties none of them got through a gap in the rotation. Probably because the game doesn't model the kind of rotation that would be necessary to maintain a full time presence over such a distant target.

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/9/2008 7:21:14 PM

bigbaba

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ok hans. i thought that my LRCAP over the battleships far north of GG was a abuse. i agree with you, that any japanese LRCAP from rabaul to a point south of GG is simply not realistic because of the distance...although i find japanese CAP against anything what has more then one engine is very very ineffective...but thats something realistic.

a japanese fighter pilot shoot several rounds on a B-17 in the middle of the pearl harbor attack with no result and he said after the attack, that his thought was, that this plane will cause a lot of problems for the japanese in the comming war.

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/9/2008 7:58:08 PM

HansBolter

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bigbaba

ok hans. i thought that my LRCAP over the battleships far north of GG was a abuse. i agree with you, that any japanese LRCAP from rabaul to a point south of GG is simply not realistic because of the distance...although i find japanese CAP against anything what has more then one engine is very very ineffective...but thats something realistic.

a japanese fighter pilot shoot several rounds on a B-17 in the middle of the pearl harbor attack with no result and he said after the attack, that his thought was, that this plane will cause a lot of problems for the japanese in the comming war.�

The problem with the game engine is that the American 2Es won't even fly into the LRCAP from Rabaul to that point south of GG and that is why those bombardment runs can be made with complete impunity. Since it's out of range of the American escorts, the cap to escort ratio calculation keeps the 2Es from ever flying at all.

The first few times I experienced those bombardment runs I assumed the opposing player had carriers nearby covering the surface TF. When time after time I sufered this bombardment and never once spotted a carrier TF I became suspicious. So, I loaded up a solitaire game as the Japanese and experimented to discover to my horror that the designers were such huge Japanese fanboys that they gave the Japanese this incredibly game breaking ahistorical capability. I lost a lot of respect for Gary Grigsby after that discovery.

< Message edited by HansBolter -- 7/9/2008 8:01:09 PM >

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/9/2008 9:24:44 PM

bigbaba

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gili gili is liberated. long live the emperor! banzai! banzai! banzai!

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/10/2008 4:54:30 PM

bigbaba

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we are now at the end of 1942 and i lead by 4000 VP.

you guys mean that its possible as the japanese (scenario 16 with 100%) to escape to the end of the game with this VP difference at the beginning of 1943?

anyway..i made some neary fatal mistakes, i would never ever repeat in other games. i did not fortify PM and GG to level 9 as it was quiet. after all, i still learn as a PBEM-rookie.

edit:

the situation at the end of 1942..happy x-mass, yanks.

< Message edited by bigbaba -- 7/11/2008 2:00:16 PM >

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/12/2008 12:29:21 PM

bigbaba

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01/12/43:

my valued opponent is gathering his fleet again south of PM.

seems that my elite bomber pilots will get some training soon. over 300 nells and bettys and over 200 A6M2 are ready to launch.

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/12/2008 12:43:03 PM

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should make for a warm welcome...

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/12/2008 1:22:52 PM

bigbaba

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he is landing at lae lae...again and in force.

lets see, if i can start another 160+ planes torpedo attack with my "sushi-air force".

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4E slaughter... - 7/13/2008 4:33:55 PM

bigbaba

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who said, zeros suck against 4E bombers? its only a question of the right diet (sushi for the win!)

the USAAF lost 15! B-17 and B-24 in one day in the attempt to bomb a level 9 fortificated lae.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/26/43

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Air attack on Lae , at 9,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 62
A6M3 Zero x 57

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 5 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator x 1 destroyed
B-24D Liberator x 12 damaged

Japanese Ships
PC Takunan Maru #10, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-24D Liberator at 15000 feet

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Air attack on Lae , at 9,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 62
A6M3 Zero x 57

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 6 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 1 destroyed
B-17E Fortress x 23 damaged

PO2 H.Chiyoshima of F2/6th Daitai is credited with kill number 3

Japanese Ships
AO Iro, Bomb hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 13

Port hits 4
Port supply hits 5

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
0 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
0 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
0 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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now the zeros dont shoot down so many bombers directly, but the long way back to australia in a bullet sieved bomber does the job for me.

its the end of january 1943 and the VP projection amounting 4100!

the battlefleet is intact and so are the 300+ nells/bettys with 70-80 xp-pilots. and not to forget the soon 500 fighters.

the main problem for me is the fact, that i got maybe 4-5 ships in the last 2-3 months! maybe i should play at 200% next time instead of 100%. but "you grow on your problems" and so:

BANZAI BANZAI BANZAI! long live the emperor. long live the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere!

< Message edited by bigbaba -- 7/13/2008 4:38:03 PM >

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RE: 4E slaughter... - 7/13/2008 5:52:55 PM

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take care. If the US gets F4u's in range of Irau, your situation will go downhill fast. Plus, the US is going to get far more ships than you in 1943. Still, congradulations on your success to date! what are each sides CV losses so far?

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RE: 4E slaughter... - 7/13/2008 6:16:39 PM

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congrats for the great job so far from me too!

But as Borner already said, the Corsairs and Hellcats will turn your hair into grey! Better don�t even think about trying to put up your high-skill Zero drivers against them. Keep them for attack missions instead of defense, seems useless anyway. Corsairs don�t eat Sushi - they eat your Zeros! For Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner....... and they�re VERY HUNGRY
So the best advice is to keep them off range...

How about the allied invasion at Lea Lea? And always keep an eye on the Southern Solomons...

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RE: 4E slaughter... - 7/13/2008 8:37:38 PM

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hehe, thanks for the motivational words, guys.

the CV status isnt realy good in #16 for the japanese. i lost a CV and a CVL early in the game and jamie still has all his CVs. he is very carefull with them.

everything is quiet at irau and lunga and this 2 bases are very well fortified, manned and supplied.

jamie has some INF and ENG units at lea lea and a level 1 AF. i dont think that you can build lea lea into a realy usefull base because of the limitations of the terrain.

all i can hope is that my 4100 VP advantage is enough to get me through 1943, but i realy dont have illusions about my chances. sushi is healthier the burger king, but at the end, burger king is more successfull.=)

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RE: 4E slaughter... - 7/13/2008 11:33:27 PM

bigbaba

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sushi air at its best:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/30/43

Weather: Clear

Sub attack at 19,32

Allied Ships
SS Tautog

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Air attack on Lea Lea , at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 110
A6M3 Zero x 63
G3M Nell x 87
G4M1 Betty x 170

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk x 15 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk x 4 damaged

PO2 R.Fujita of F1/3rd Daitai is credited with kill number 2

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 147

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 37

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/14/2008 3:41:40 AM

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quote:

The Japanese ability to project LRCAP over huge distances in this game is so severely overmodeled it borders on a joke. It's the single most abused capability in the entire game.

Yeah, maybe you need another house rule.

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/14/2008 11:52:57 AM

HansBolter

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ike99

quote:

The Japanese ability to project LRCAP over huge distances in this game is so severely overmodeled it borders on a joke. It's the single most abused capability in the entire game.

Yeah, maybe you need another house rule.

No, mister sarcasm, we need things realistically modeled.

So, now can we expect another typical 4-5 pages of you engaging a lame effort to argue in favor of effective LRCAP 400 miles from the home airbase?

Not even you could be that stupid!

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/14/2008 4:00:48 PM

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Corsairs finally make their appearance with devastating effectiveness:

By my count, the Japs lost 71 planes this turn!!

Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 70
A6M3 Zero x 71
G3M Nell x 12
G4M1 Betty x 38

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
P-38G Lightning x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 13 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 21 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged
G3M Nell x 3 destroyed
G3M Nell x 9 damaged
G4M1 Betty x 5 destroyed
G4M1 Betty x 31 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair x 2 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair x 1 damaged
P-38G Lightning x 6 destroyed
P-38G Lightning x 1 damaged

PO1 O.Aihara of DI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 7

Allied Ships
DD Cummings, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA San Francisco
CL Achillies
DD Cushing, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Anderson, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL St. Louis
CA Chester
CL Phoenix, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Northampton, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Attacking Level Bombers:
1 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
1 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet

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Air attack on Gili Gili , at 17,42

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 11

no losses

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
A6M3 Zero x 15
G3M Nell x 3

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
P-38G Lightning x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero x 1 destroyed
G3M Nell x 3 damaged

FO F.Barnes of VMF-124 is credited with kill number 3

Allied Ships
DD Stack

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x G3M Nell at 200 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
A6M3 Zero x 46
G3M Nell x 8

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
P-38G Lightning x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 7 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 6 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged
G3M Nell x 1 destroyed
G3M Nell x 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair x 1 damaged
P-38G Lightning x 5 destroyed
P-38G Lightning x 3 damaged

FO A.Keller of VMF-124 is credited with kill number 9

CPT J. Bailey of 41st FS is KILLED

Allied Ships
CA Northampton, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Attacking Level Bombers:
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell at 200 feet

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/14/2008 4:17:20 PM

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such slaughters are a pretty common result at this stage of the game. Corsair is the ruler of the skies where joining the party. As I suppose some of Bigbaba�s fine aces crashed onto the jungle coast of PNG today, never to return.

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/14/2008 4:54:39 PM

bigbaba

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this corsairs cause realy some gray hairs for me like you all said.

its amazeing what a handfull of them can destroy.

in the last turn, my poor sushi-airforce had even more loses. but at least, 2 flattops are also sent to the bottom of the ocean:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/07/43

Weather: Clear

Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
A6M3 Zero x 85
G3M Nell x 19
G4M1 Betty x 59

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 39
F4U-1 Corsair x 15
P-38G Lightning x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 3 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 15 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 2 damaged
G3M Nell x 6 destroyed
G3M Nell x 16 damaged
G4M1 Betty x 16 destroyed
G4M1 Betty x 46 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair x 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning x 3 destroyed
P-38G Lightning x 6 damaged

2LT A.Keller of VMF-124 is credited with kill number 10

FO D.Emerson of VMF-124 is KILLED

Allied Ships
CA New Orleans
CV Enterprise, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CV Wasp, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
CA Quincy, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Pensacola

i think my mistake was to allow him to build even a level 1 AF at lea lea. in a next game, i will do anything to prevent that as the japanese.

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/14/2008 6:46:17 PM

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86 more Jap planes go down this turn. The Essex is due imminently...The shipping losses at this point, at least in my opinion, are mitigated by the attrition of the Jap airforce. 157 total planes and/or pilots lost in two days has to hurt the long term prospects of the Japanese. The quality advantage of the Jap flyers has probably just disappeared....

I have also made some severe mistakes in this game. I would fight tooth and nail for Port Morseby, as opposed to basically writing it off and trying to re-take in '43.

Jamie.

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/15/2008 2:57:28 AM

bigbaba

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the battle for GG is over..the battle for PM is about to beginn. first step is a major naval operation to supply PM.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/13/43

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
A6M3 Zero x 30
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
SBD Dauntless x 30
TBF Avenger x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 31 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 9 damaged
TBF Avenger x 24 destroyed
TBF Avenger x 8 damaged

ENS S. Kudo of F1/Tainan Daitai is credited with kill number 5

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 1
BB Haruna
BB Yamato
DD Suzukaze

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
A6M3 Zero x 14
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
Hudson x 4
B-25J Mitchell x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero x 2 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson x 3 destroyed
B-25J Mitchell x 6 damaged

LTJG W.Muto of F2/Tainan Daitai is credited with kill number 5

Japanese Ships
DD Nowaki
DD Suzukaze

Attacking Level Bombers:
0 x Hudson at 6000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
A6M3 Zero x 29
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 17 destroyed

LTJG W.Muto of F2/Tainan Daitai is credited with kill number 7

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
A6M3 Zero x 29
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder x 3 destroyed
B-26B Marauder x 3 damaged

LTJG R.Kawabata of F2/252nd Daitai is credited with kill number 4

Japanese Ships
CS Chitose, Shell hits 4

Attacking Level Bombers:
1 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
2 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
A6M3 Zero x 29
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 15 destroyed

WO M. Shimakawa of F1/Tainan Daitai is credited with kill number 6

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
A6M3 Zero x 29
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 9

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell x 1 destroyed

CPO K. Yanagiya of F1/6th Daitai is credited with kill number 5

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
A6M3 Zero x 29
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu

Attacking Level Bombers:
0 x Hudson at 6000 feet
3 x B-24D Liberator at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
A6M3 Zero x 29
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
A6M3 Zero x 25
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 15

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 12
SBD Dauntless x 3
TBF Avenger x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 2 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 1 damaged
TBF Avenger x 1 damaged

LTJG J.Matsunaga of F2/6th Daitai is credited with kill number 4

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Harukaze

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
A6M3 Zero x 25
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell x 1 damaged

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
A6M3 Zero x 25
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder x 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CS Nisshin

Attacking Level Bombers:
4 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
A6M3 Zero x 25
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 2
B-24D Liberator x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell x 1 damaged

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
A6M3 Zero x 11
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Yura

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
A6M3 Zero x 25
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 7

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell x 1 destroyed
B-25J Mitchell x 7 damaged

CPO Z. Miyano of F1/6th Daitai is credited with kill number 3

Japanese Ships
CA Tone

Attacking Level Bombers:
0 x Hudson at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet

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Air attack on TF at 16,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
A6M3 Zero x 11
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Shigure

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF at 12,47

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
G4M1 Betty x 23

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty x 13 destroyed
G4M1 Betty x 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4 damaged

ENS J. Galvin of VF-8 is credited with kill number 4

Allied Ships
CV Hornet, Torpedo hits 2, on fire

Attacking Level Bombers:
2 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet

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Post #: 50

RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/15/2008 12:48:06 PM

bigbaba

Posts: 1238
Joined: 11/3/2006
From: Koblenz, Germany
Status: offline

this game is realy about makeing mistakes and try to correct them on a very expensive way.

i can now allow corsairs (even a handfull) decimate my fighters at lea lea. so i collect the entire japanese navy and...land 2 divisions at lea lea.

i think my respected opponent was surprised a little bit and thought, that i want to supply PM. but thats ther speciality of the rabaul sushi bar..you never know what you get.

lea lea should be mine in the next 2-3 turns...hopefully.

with 2 of his carriers sunk, one damaged by 2 torpedos, and his entire carrier air wings erased (for the 2nd time in the game), the only resistance are his LBA at australia.

the situation:

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Post #: 51

RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/15/2008 1:44:26 PM

bigbaba

Posts: 1238
Joined: 11/3/2006
From: Koblenz, Germany
Status: offline

naval battle at lea lea:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/16/43

Weather: Overcast

Night Time Surface Combat, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai, Shell hits 2
CA Nachi, Shell hits 1
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 2, on fire
CA Kumano, Shell hits 3, on fire
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 19, on fire, heavy damage
CA Kako
CL Naka, Shell hits 1
CL Natori, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Yura, Shell hits 1
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 42, and is sunk
DD Oyashio, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Shiranui
DD Ayanami, Shell hits 4
DD Asagiri, Shell hits 6, on fire
DD Tachikaze, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 18, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Portland, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
CA Pensacola
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 1
CA New Orleans
CA Astoria, Shell hits 2
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 1
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 3
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 4
CLAA Atlanta, Shell hits 3
CLAA San Juan, Shell hits 2
DD Blue
DD Lamson, Shell hits 1
DD Conyngham, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD MacDonough, Shell hits 1

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 1
BB Haruna
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 7
BB Yamato, Shell hits 2
DD Urakaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Wakaba
DD Usugumo, Shell hits 7, on fire
DD Isonami, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Minazuki, Shell hits 1
DD Harukaze, Shell hits 2
DD Minekaze

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Portland, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
CA Pensacola, Shell hits 2
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 4, on fire
CA New Orleans
CA Astoria, Shell hits 1
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 2
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 1
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 2
CLAA Atlanta, Shell hits 2
CLAA San Juan, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Blue
DD Lamson
DD Conyngham, and is sunk
DD MacDonough

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 3
BB Haruna
BB Kirishima
BB Yamato, Shell hits 4
DD Urakaze, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hamakaze, on fire
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Suzukaze, on fire
DD Wakaba, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Usugumo, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Isonami, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Minazuki, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Harukaze
DD Minekaze

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Portland, on fire, heavy damage
CA Pensacola
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
CA New Orleans
CA Astoria, Shell hits 1
CA Minneapolis
CA San Francisco
CA Vincennes
CLAA Atlanta
CLAA San Juan, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Blue
DD Lamson
DD MacDonough

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 1
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CA Maya
CA Myoko, Shell hits 3
CA Ashigara
CL Nagara
CL Tama
DD Makinami
DD Hayashio
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Arashio, Shell hits 1
DD Shigure

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Portland, on fire, heavy damage
CA Pensacola
CA Salt Lake City, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA New Orleans, Shell hits 2
CA Astoria, Shell hits 2
CA Minneapolis
CA San Francisco
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 2
CLAA Atlanta
CLAA San Juan, on fire
DD Blue, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Lamson
DD MacDonough

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 5
CA Tone
CA Chikuma, Shell hits 4
CA Maya
CA Myoko
CA Ashigara
CL Nagara, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Tama, Shell hits 2
DD Makinami, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Hayashio
DD Tokitsukaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Arashio, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Shigure

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 6, on fire
CA Portland, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Pensacola
CA Salt Lake City, and is sunk
CA New Orleans, Shell hits 1
CA Astoria, Shell hits 2
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 3
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Vincennes
CLAA Atlanta, Shell hits 1
CLAA San Juan, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Blue, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Lamson
DD MacDonough, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Air attack on Lea Lea , at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-46 Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 4

no losses

no losses

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Air attack on Lea Lea , at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-46 Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 4

no losses

no losses

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 5
A6M2 Zero x 38
A6M3 Zero x 19
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 28

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Yunagi
AP Nichibi Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 8
Guns lost 1

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 5
A6M2 Zero x 38
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 17

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
TK Genyo Maru

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 5
A6M2 Zero x 38
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 17

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 3 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Arashio, on fire
DD Hagikaze

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 5
A6M2 Zero x 29
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 17

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Takao

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Day Time Surface Combat at 9,41

Japanese Ships
CA Furutaka, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
PT 38
PT 39
PT 40

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Ground combat at Lea Lea

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 34445 troops, 296 guns, 103 vehicles

Defending force 37063 troops, 319 guns, 72 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 536

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 453

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Post #: 52

RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/15/2008 2:46:11 PM

bigbaba

Posts: 1238
Joined: 11/3/2006
From: Koblenz, Germany
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the epic battle continues:

it was a better turn. a entire allied DD-TF is destroyed by the remaining power of the IJN.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/17/43

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Night Time Surface Combat, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 1
BB Mutsu
CA Tone, Shell hits 1
CA Takao
CA Atago, Shell hits 1
CA Maya
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 1
CA Mogami, Shell hits 1
CA Aoba, Shell hits 1
CL Tama, Shell hits 2
DD Kagero, Shell hits 3
DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Hayashio
DD Hagikaze
DD Shigure
DD Oite
DD Okikaze
DD Namikaze, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Monssen, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Henley, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage
DD Craven, Shell hits 1
DD Maury
DD Drayton, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Case
DD Dunlap, Shell hits 16, on fire, heavy damage
DD Fanning, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Selfridge, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Farragut
DD Dewey
DD Aylwin, Shell hits 1
DD Arunta, Shell hits 1
DMS Hovey
DM Preble, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat at 0,0

Japanese Ships
AP Reiyo Maru, Shell hits 55, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
PT 43
PT 44
PT 46
PT 48

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 2251
Guns lost 28

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 5
CA Tone, Shell hits 7
CA Takao
CA Atago, Shell hits 4
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CA Mogami, Shell hits 15
CA Aoba
CL Tama
DD Kagero
DD Yukikaze
DD Hayashio
DD Hagikaze
DD Shigure
DD Oite
DD Okikaze
DD Namikaze

Allied Ships
DD Henley, and is sunk
DD Craven, Shell hits 26, on fire, heavy damage
DD Maury, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Drayton, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
DD Case, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Dunlap, and is sunk
DD Fanning, Shell hits 18, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Farragut, Shell hits 17, on fire, heavy damage
DD Dewey, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
DD Aylwin
DD Arunta, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Hovey
DM Preble, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 1
BB Mutsu
CA Tone
CA Takao
CA Atago, Shell hits 1
CA Maya
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 1
CA Mogami, Shell hits 1
CA Aoba
CL Tama
DD Kagero
DD Yukikaze
DD Hayashio
DD Hagikaze
DD Shigure
DD Oite
DD Okikaze
DD Namikaze

Allied Ships
DD Craven, and is sunk
DD Maury, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Case, Shell hits 21, on fire, heavy damage
DD Fanning, and is sunk
DD Farragut, and is sunk
DD Dewey, and is sunk
DD Aylwin, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD Arunta, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Hovey, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Naval bombardment of Lea Lea, at 9,39

Allied aircraft

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair x 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 168
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 67

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 7
A6M2 Zero x 42
A6M3 Zero x 20
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 35

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe x 1 damaged
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 2 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Minegumo
DD Hatsushimo
AP Nichibi Maru

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 10,40

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 5
B-24D Liberator x 4

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell x 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Suzukaze, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Urakaze, Shell hits 8, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Usugumo, on fire, heavy damage

Attacking Level Bombers:
4 x B-24D Liberator at 15000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet
1 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 10,40

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIC x 15
P-38G Lightning x 11
B-17E Fortress x 3

no losses

Japanese Ships
DD Usugumo, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
DD Urakaze, Shell hits 16, on fire, heavy damage
DD Suzukaze, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 7
A6M2 Zero x 42
A6M3 Zero x 14
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 19

Allied aircraft
Hudson x 19
P-38G Lightning x 53
B-25J Mitchell x 16
B-26B Marauder x 28
PB4Y Liberator x 6
B-24D Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe x 3 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 5 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson x 2 destroyed
Hudson x 10 damaged
P-38G Lightning x 3 destroyed
P-38G Lightning x 6 damaged
B-25J Mitchell x 6 damaged
B-26B Marauder x 6 damaged

LTJG W.Sugiyama of F2/2nd Daitai is credited with kill number 5

LTJG R.Kawabata of F2/252nd Daitai is KILLED

Japanese Ships
CA Kako, Shell hits 12
BB Kirishima, Bomb hits 1
CA Chokai
CL Naka, Shell hits 4
BB Haruna
DD Shiranui

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet
6 x PB4Y Liberator at 15000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet
3 x Hudson at 100 feet
3 x Hudson at 100 feet
4 x Hudson at 100 feet
3 x Hudson at 100 feet
3 x Hudson at 100 feet
3 x B-24D Liberator at 15000 feet
3 x B-24D Liberator at 15000 feet
1 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet
1 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet
2 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
2 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
0 x Hudson at 100 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
3 x B-24D Liberator at 15000 feet
1 x Hudson at 100 feet
1 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 5
A6M2 Zero x 23
A6M3 Zero x 11
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 18

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 2
B-26B Marauder x 9

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder x 1 destroyed
B-26B Marauder x 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CS Chitose

Attacking Level Bombers:
2 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
2 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
A6M2 Zero x 11
A6M3 Zero x 4
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

no losses

no losses

Japanese Ships
DD Mutsuki

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 5
A6M2 Zero x 23
A6M3 Zero x 11
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 18

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 3
B-24D Liberator x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell x 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator x 1 damaged

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 4
A6M2 Zero x 33
A6M3 Zero x 20
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
Hudson x 8
B-26B Marauder x 11
PB4Y Liberator x 3
B-24D Liberator x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 2 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson x 2 destroyed
Hudson x 6 damaged
B-26B Marauder x 6 damaged
B-24D Liberator x 1 damaged

PO2 I.Doikawa of F1/253rd Daitai is credited with kill number 2

Japanese Ships
DD Yunagi
AP Kirishima Maru
DD Murasame
AP Shintoku Maru

Attacking Level Bombers:
2 x Hudson at 100 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator at 15000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
3 x Hudson at 100 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 2
A6M2 Zero x 11
A6M3 Zero x 5
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Unkai Maru #3
AP Sangetsu Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Hatsushimo

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 22
Guns lost 1

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 10,40

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIC x 7
P-38G Lightning x 11

no losses

Japanese Ships
DD Urakaze, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 4
A6M2 Zero x 24
A6M3 Zero x 11
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
Hudson x 5
P-38G Lightning x 34
B-25J Mitchell x 7
B-26B Marauder x 7
B-24D Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe x 1 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning x 3 destroyed
P-38G Lightning x 6 damaged
B-25J Mitchell x 1 damaged
B-26B Marauder x 3 damaged

ENS I.Hori of DI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 5

Japanese Ships
DD Minekaze
CA Kako, Shell hits 4
CL Naka
BB Kongo

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet
0 x Hudson at 100 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet
2 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
2 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
2 x Hudson at 100 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
3 x Hudson at 100 feet
3 x B-24D Liberator at 15000 feet
3 x B-24D Liberator at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 2
A6M2 Zero x 7
A6M3 Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

no losses

no losses

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 4
A6M2 Zero x 17
A6M3 Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 2
B-26B Marauder x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell x 2 damaged
B-26B Marauder x 1 destroyed
B-26B Marauder x 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CS Nisshin

Attacking Level Bombers:
2 x B-26B Marauder at 100 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell at 100 feet

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Naval bombardment of Lea Lea, at 9,39

LTJG O.Endo of F1/Tainan Daitai is credited with kill number 5

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 169

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18

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Ground combat at Lea Lea

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 38793 troops, 472 guns, 29 vehicles

Defending force 45756 troops, 324 guns, 142 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 4

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 29

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Post #: 53

RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/15/2008 9:29:27 PM

bigbaba

Posts: 1238
Joined: 11/3/2006
From: Koblenz, Germany
Status: offline

i am at work, so only a quick update of the epic battle. its end of february and the loses of both sides are stunning. i still have a 5100 VP advantage.

results of the last turn:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/24/43

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
A6M3 Zero x 22
B5N Kate x 9
G3M Nell x 35
G4M1 Betty x 87

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty x 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair x 1 damaged

1LT W.White of VMF-124 is credited with kill number 2

LTJG W.Muto of F2/Tainan Daitai is KILLED

Allied Ships
AP Hunter Liggett, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zeilin, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Calvert, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Libra, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
APD Manley, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP George Clymer, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP J. Franklin Bell
AP Arthur Middleton, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Leonard Wood, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Alhena, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Henry T. Allen, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP President Adams, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Leedstown, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Monrovia, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Moreton Bay, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Diomed

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell at 200 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty x 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Gridley

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty x 3 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Electra

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet

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Air attack on Gili Gili , at 17,42

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 30
TBF Avenger x 18

no losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 17

Attacking Level Bombers:
18 x TBF Avenger at 5000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
A6M3 Zero x 10
B5N Kate x 9
G3M Nell x 25
G4M1 Betty x 61

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair x 1 damaged

1LT A.Keller of VMF-124 is credited with kill number 13

LCDR A.Nojima of F2/2nd Daitai bails out and is CAPTURED

Allied Ships
AP Hunter Liggett, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Monrovia, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Leedstown, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP J. Franklin Bell, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Moreton Bay, on fire, heavy damage
AK Diomed, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Attacking Level Bombers:
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell at 200 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Lea Lea at 9,39

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty x 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty x 6 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Titania
DD Mustin, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Attacking Level Bombers:
2 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet

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Ground combat at Lea Lea

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 49310 troops, 545 guns, 141 vehicles

Defending force 51827 troops, 405 guns, 147 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 1748
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 205

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/15/2008 9:50:04 PM

Bigdog128

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I don't know what happened to my corsairs that turn....but I kinda was counting on them as CAP...and they just let everyone by them...to just totally spank the shipping that was unloading in Lea-Lea. Seems odd.

Jamie.

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/16/2008 4:21:38 AM

Ike99

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quote:

Allied Ships
AP Hunter Liggett, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zeilin, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Calvert, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Libra, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
APD Manley, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP George Clymer, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP J. Franklin Bell
AP Arthur Middleton, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Leonard Wood, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Alhena, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Henry T. Allen, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP President Adams, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Leedstown, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Monrovia, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Moreton Bay, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Diomed

There it is...

Have the submarines lurking.

< Message edited by Ike99 -- 7/16/2008 4:22:03 AM >

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Post #: 56

RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/16/2008 6:22:55 AM

bigbaba

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now thats finaly a realistic air combat result in the last turn. i mean, 16 corsairs can NOT shoot down 71! planes.

my bombers sunk more then 30 allied AP/AK in the last 2-3 turns. thats my only chance to survive....to get jamies lift capacity.

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RE: the gili gili Turkey Shoot - 7/16/2008 4:01:17 PM

bigbaba

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a update at 03/01/1943:

VP:

japanese: 9501
allied: 4324

identified allied aircraft loses: 1856

-248 SBD
-168 P-38
-168 F-4F
-129 B-17
-120 B-26
-113 Hudson
-110 TBF

identified allied ship loses:

-2 CV
-8 CA
-4 CL
-33 DD
-32 AP/AK

my loses are also heavy but classified, but maybe jamie can post them here too.

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