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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/12/2008 4:39:26 PM   
mbsports

 

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Status: offline 		Another post that offers nothing to the overall community.  My only question to you would be - what exactly are you doing with the simulation that you expect this patch to solve for you? 

Again do something - there are plenty of participating members of this forum working on projects and really at this point you're irrelevent to the argument.  I have to admit I have no idea what you're waiting for but there's a good chance someone in the community has something that does what you're looking for.  This "demand" answers point of view quite simply has little impact when it comes from someone who contributes close to nothing positive to the community.


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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/12/2008 5:15:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll 2nd that,

I find it totally bewildering as to why your even here elmerlee
you contribute nothing and seem to hate this game and the community alike

So why do you keep coming back ? very puzzling.

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/12/2008 7:13:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		We're away at GenCon until the 19th, so the earliest the update would be available is after we return. Realistically, I'd say by the end of August.

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/12/2008 8:09:43 PM   
elmerlee

 

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Status: offline 		On July 29 Eric posted this:
"We've got the final update from David, should be another week or two of testing before release."

Never the less thanks for letting us know Eric. My guess would be the fault is with
David Winter. Who by the way has STILL not been heard from. Does anyone EVER hear from
home anymore. If you do please speak-up.

And please you fan boys save your breath. This game is as good as its ever going to be
so why is Winter not big enough to admit it and we can go on our way. Maybe because
the hope is to sell another couple games.







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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/12/2008 8:55:02 PM   
Mykal


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Status: offline 		Fan Boys ???

That aint got nothing to do with it
It's all about good manners man, being rude is getting you exactly where ?

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/12/2008 11:23:00 PM   
Lucas718

 

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ORIGINAL: elmerlee

On July 29 Eric posted this:
"We've got the final update from David, should be another week or two of testing before release."

Never the less thanks for letting us know Eric. My guess would be the fault is with
David Winter. Who by the way has STILL not been heard from. Does anyone EVER hear from
home anymore. If you do please speak-up.

And please you fan boys save your breath. This game is as good as its ever going to be
so why is Winter not big enough to admit it and we can go on our way. Maybe because
the hope is to sell another couple games.




My guess is you don't know what you're talking about. If you want to go on your way then feel free. No one here is going to miss you.

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/13/2008 12:43:40 PM   
hack153

 

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Status: offline 		Elmerlee,

I've been quiet long enough.  Just please go your seperate way, like you've said, from this forum & game and find a new home.  In '06 we had this guy on here, like you, that constantly complained about the game and made negative comments.  It added no productivity to the game or the players, thus there was no need for it.  We were all very happy when he left, and I've had a bad day and could use a little happiness.  (Just kidding!)   

There are plenty of options out there:
http://www.easports.com/madden09/
www.dksports.com
http://www.mofunzone.com/download_games/total_pro_football_2004.shtml
http://blitzleague.com/
http://www.nintendo8.com/game/321/tecmo_super_bowl/
http://www.backbreakergame.com/
http://www.backyardsports.com/backyardgames/football.php

Just a few options to get you started, because I also look for the newest games to play too!
 

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/13/2008 3:25:54 PM   
MjH

 

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Status: offline 		You know what guys, elmerlee isn't listening to you, I don't know why you bother. Do what I did a long time ago. Find the little green button beside the "buddy" button at the bottom of one of his posts. Click on it. It will turn red, and his messages will be blocked so you don't have to read his whining.

Just my opinion...

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/13/2008 4:41:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		MjH that is the best idea I've heard all day and I don't doubt that others have done so and that's partially why his nonsense doesn't get answered.  I've done that and I appreciate your advice there, wasn't sure how to add an ignore!

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/13/2008 7:42:22 PM   
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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/13/2008 7:59:24 PM   
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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/15/2008 1:09:23 AM   
DAWUSS

 

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Status: offline 		What's on deck for the next patch?

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/15/2008 1:18:38 AM   
therhino

 

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Status: offline 		If you mean the next 2.2 upddate then maybe a few minor updates, but mainly bug glitch fixes. I can't really go in to detail becuase of my NDA. If you mean 2.5 then you should look at the link below. This is what David said will be in 2.5.


http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1817227

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/15/2008 1:26:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ah OK, thanks for the link

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/21/2008 11:58:57 PM   
mpeller6

 

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Status: offline 		Any word on a new patch? I find the double count of touchdown passes and yardage particularly annoying. Thanks Mark. Go Riders!

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/22/2008 12:15:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mpeller6

Any word on a new patch? I find the double count of touchdown passes and yardage particularly annoying. Thanks Mark. Go Riders!


I had heard about this and noticed it in my game last night. The rushing yardage was being counted twice. One RB had 265 yards on 9 rushes in the first quarter or so. But, I know he did not rush for that much yardage. I know you mentioned the touchdown passes, but is this also happening with passing yardage? If so, has anyone noticed if it's also skewing the player stats?


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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/22/2008 12:34:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		This has been fixed. The build the testers have is free of that issue.

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/22/2008 1:43:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		 Thats great news Gary. Any idea when it will be released as a patch. I have one season ready and another almost ready to go but want the stat issue fixed up before I start.

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/22/2008 1:49:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, it screws up the stats. It's the reason my GFF is on hiatus and driven me to do the NFLE uniforms which led me to creating a new WLAF solo league with 8 teams North American and 8 teams European.

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/22/2008 2:14:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Release dates are a mystery to beta guys also. That info comes from Erik.

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/22/2008 2:33:18 AM   
DONMVP

 

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Status: offline 		Glad to here it got fixed , been seeing it a lot on long touchdowns passing mostly .But saw for first time a runner break off 52 yd run for td and after play was over saw it doubled . jUST THE YARDAGE. My cfl league half way through , almost all 20 starting QB our over 3,800 yards so far . So definately in season 2 or later players have hard time breaking there teams passing records . But hey its all fun anyway . Can`t wait for season be over to add some expansion teams.

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/22/2008 10:36:34 AM   
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But saw for first time a runner break off 52 yd run for td and after play was over saw it doubled .


This bug should be gone, too. I have saved a 1-10 on 1 yard line scenario and tested it several times.

Before a running TD : Player 10 - 24
After a running TD: Player 11 - 25


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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/22/2008 2:26:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		It only shows up occasionally, probably under a certain situation, so your save may not have the prequisites met for the bug to appear. You need to test it in different games,..in different situations. Testing the same save over and over only shows that that situation doesnt cause it.



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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/22/2008 3:43:57 PM   
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And we still do not hear from David Winter ?????????????????
How about a little info Eric????????????????????????????


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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/23/2008 4:35:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to say the Elmerlee does have a point. We haven't heard from Dave since June 25 (not that he has to check in or anything). It would be nice to hear something from him. Having said that, though, anything more that he give us is gravy. I love the game, and I can more than tolerate those niggling little issues just to play. Can't wait to see what's next!
LTF

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/23/2008 5:05:36 AM   
mbsports

 

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Status: offline 		I think it's time for the moderators to step in and remove Mr. Lee from the board actually.  While we would all like answers the vast majority handle it with a maturity at least befitting a 4 year old.  Elmer - not so much.  I actually have him blocked, which is fantastic b/c I don't have to look at his stupid ramblings of full lines of question marks or sentences with no start or ending, just a random smattering of words.

It really shows a lack of thought process and ability to convey one's message.

I believe there was a small update in the last few days that final testing was ongoing, not sure where I hear that but it was around these parts so there is some work going on but the message board can be a hectic place if you get sucked into idiotic conversations instead of working on your life.


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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/23/2008 2:02:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll 2nd that,

It's been long enough now, elmerlee just harrasses this forum with his bullyboy posts
attacking anyone and everyone he feel's like
we can all get tough from the saftey of our own home, hiding behind a computer screen.

It's not Big and its not clever.

Someone should can his ass completely

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/23/2008 5:56:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think elmerlee is wrong to question the absence of David. It really is a valid point. The issue is how he goes about questioning. It's very rude.

But, back to the point at hand: a LOT of people love the fact that David has been so 1 on 1 with everyone. He makes it seem like you're the only issue he is dealing with at the time. Even when he has major bugs to deal with, his own personal life, hours of programming, etc..., he STILL finds time to answer your individual questions. This is why it comes as a shock when he basically just stops responding in late June.

I think what David has done to this game is fantastic. And if he were to stop right now, people could not say they were let down. But with the promise of upcoming patches, major releases, new additions, etc... people really are eager to see David on these forums and to get that patch.

This is why emerlee is frustrated. It does feel in a way that some of us were lead along on deception. But, obviously David would not just drop the project without telling us first. Even if he didn't say why, he'd at least tell us. I know from experience that programming for the masses can be very taxing. He probably justs needed/needs a break. He'll be back.

That's just my two cents, anyway.

JD

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/23/2008 6:17:41 PM   
elmerlee

 

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Status: offline 		Of course my post are rude. I mean them to be that and more. Although they may not hurry things along they usually get some type response from either David Winter or Matrix which gives us some updated info.

Just check how long it has been since David Winter posted here. Then look and see the last time he even logged into this forum. Maybe look to find the last time Eric had anything to say before his response to this thread.

I've been in business for a LONG time and there are certain business people you can deal with in a forthright manner and some you need to be "rude" with. All these guys need to do is give an honest answer as to what is going on. Matrix should no longer be allowed to sell this game on the premise that it is going to get a reasonable update. Let alone that something like a 2.5 is coming.

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RE: Patch update (June 23, 08) - 8/23/2008 7:23:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		I understand ya' point JD

But.................

If you approach me in good manner and ask something of me, you'll most likely get it ASAP
on the other hand,
should you forget the fact that we are supposed to be intelligent beings and behave in a Bull Crash manner, you'll get nothing from me at all.

Just perhaps David and a few others feel the same way, you could hardly blame them
this has been going on for so long now...............enough is enough.

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