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British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 12:17:00 AM   
brucha


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Status: offline 		I was playing my latest battle in my Long British campaign when I came across this interesting British infantry section:



Apparently I have some really good troops in my unit!

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 12:29:39 AM   
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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 3:51:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		"Gather round Mates...I have some smashing news to share. The blokes with intel just informed me that there is a Jerry bunker full of tea and crumpets just over that hill! Right then, who's with me lads?"

And off they went at full gallop...doing their best imitation of the Light Brigade.

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 5:23:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		The British zip-a-dee-do-dah division. Isn't that about the speed they used leaving New Orleans ????????

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 3:49:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		arrrg, why are you not using Enhanced?


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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 5:11:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		No one has to use Enhanced Alby.

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 6:06:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Alby

arrrg, why are you not using Enhanced?



What is Enhanced?

edit: Sorry, I looked in the Enhanced sub-forum and answered my own question. I have been playing with version 7.1, never knowing there was 8.2 out there, let alone Enhanced. So, I am erasing my old version from my computer and downloading 8.2, the three patches and Enhanced. Can't wait to see how different the game is! I will have to restart my campaign though...

< Message edited by brucha -- 9/28/2008 6:33:47 PM >

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 7:36:21 PM   
Orzel Bialy


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Status: offline 		Brucha,

Go with Enhanced. There have been modifications to the game mech, the oobs, etc that make it far better than any of the vanilla versions.

I think you'll like what you see once you give it a look.

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 7:39:15 PM   
brucha


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Status: offline 		One quick question - the Enhanced file I downloaded is a spm file that I can't open - any ideas?

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 7:43:39 PM   
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http://www.spwaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15116

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 7:44:34 PM   
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Goblin

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 7:54:50 PM   
brucha


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Status: offline 		Ahhh, thanks Goblin - I just took a look at the new version of the game. Everything seems to be working just fine - and it looks completely superb! I can't believe that I have been playing such an antiquated version of the game! Unfortunately I will have to restart my current campaign from sratch.

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 8:01:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Enhanced has its quirks too. In one of his DAR, Korpraali V had screenshot of german light 75 mm ATG having some 70+ rounds!

[edit]
I just remembered, that after installing Enhanced, some pop-up messages are only partly visible, and some don't show up at all.

< Message edited by Matti Kuokkanen -- 9/28/2008 8:04:27 PM >

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 8:02:27 PM   
brucha


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ORIGINAL: Goblin

brucha, did you get the PM from me?



Goblin


Nope I did not Goblin.

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 8:11:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

Enhanced has its quirks too. In one of his DAR, Korpraali V had screenshot of german light 75 mm ATG having some 70+ rounds!


Nothing in SPWAW has been perfect to date Matti.

However, with that said despite some "quirks" Enhanced still doesn't have the masses of contradicting values that previous OoB's suffered from IMO.


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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 8:24:46 PM   
Goblin


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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 8:28:07 PM   
brucha


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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 8:36:07 PM   
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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 8:53:31 PM   
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No one has to use Enhanced Alby.

No kidding, it was a joke.


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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 8:58:14 PM   
Alby


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ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

Enhanced has its quirks too. In one of his DAR, Korpraali V had screenshot of german light 75 mm ATG having some 70+ rounds!

most AT guns in the game have 50-70 rounds.


[edit]
I just remembered, that after installing Enhanced, some pop-up messages are only partly visible, and some don't show up at all.

That is not a quirk, that is intentional...




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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/28/2008 9:12:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Brucha:

As much as I hate to tell you this, the "moving 105 mph" phenomenon is not a unique to British troops. Actual tests from the game (using the Enhanced mod) have shown that, if an infantry unit hits a mine, its speed would suddenly increase to at least 40 mph (and often >100 mph).

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/30/2008 11:28:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		You'll also see the "speed demon" result if a unit in transport has its transport destroyed. 

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/30/2008 12:57:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's also possible for units to move negatively.  I've seen units moving at -4mph, for example.  Heh.

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/30/2008 3:04:02 PM   
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RE: British Super Soldiers - 9/30/2008 9:20:26 PM   
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Korpraali V: "I'm not going to ask whether it was sunbathing"

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 10/1/2008 12:56:00 AM   
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RE: British Super Soldiers - 10/3/2008 3:25:44 AM   
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For your information, the "negative speed" phenomenon is due to the fact that the game may decrease the speed for infantry that have fired after moving. This can happen, for example, if an infantry unit moves 1 hex (for a speed of 2~3 mph) and then fires 6 times. (Because speed could decrease by up to 1 mph after each shot, there is a good chance that the unit's speed would ultimately become negative.)

Now, here's the counter-intuitive part: as expected, the penalty to hit chance caused by moving won't go away entirely when the moving speed drops to zero or a negative number.

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 10/3/2008 7:03:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		reyturn fire.....my remark was sarchastic and meant to be funny. Thanks for the return though.

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RE: British Super Soldiers - 10/3/2008 11:25:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: returnfire

planner 3:

For your information, the "negative speed" phenomenon is due to the fact that the game may decrease the speed for infantry that have fired after moving. This can happen, for example, if an infantry unit moves 1 hex (for a speed of 2~3 mph) and then fires 6 times. (Because speed could decrease by up to 1 mph after each shot, there is a good chance that the unit's speed would ultimately become negative.)




Recoil.


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RE: British Super Soldiers - 10/3/2008 3:29:21 PM   
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