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ORIGINAL: Bullman

Haha...I am the first person to "have this problem"?
So the rest of you who don't "have this problem" automatically/naturally know/knew all the ship types that are included in each category.
eg. all the ship types that belong to the AU or AP category? etc.

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ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish

If you are looking for a particular TYPE of ship it has never been diffcult to find in the past. I don't expect it to be different in the future.

Using the FILTERs and the ability to SORT any ship or TYPE is simple to find.

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ORIGINAL: Bullman

OK, I too undestand/would assume that the categories in the Base Information Screen are grouped by primary role. That seems logical and the intent of displaying that information there in the first place.

But what is NOT logical is expecting a player to automatically understand:

a) what the 12 acronym names actually refer to/mean ie. CV, BB, CA, DD, AP, AO, SS, DM, PT, AG, AU, AV
b) what ship types in the game actually belong to each of those acronym names

Although I am not a naval freak, I do recognize some of the more common/well known acronym names in that list, like CV, BB, CA and DD. However there is nothing there to tell me that in this case of viewing the the Base Information Screen, CV for example IS NOT just refering to the CV ship types anchored at the base. In this context it also seems to refer to any CVEs and CVLs as well. Even more confusing is the use of the acronym AU which doesn't even have a direct ship type counterpart or is even mentioned or listed anywhere in the manual/appendix. I have to "guess" what ship types this mysterious acronymn is refering to (I think I have been at least able to work out that maybe the ship type AS (submarine tender) belongs to this AU category...don't ask me even what an AS ship type is useful for ).

I find it incredible that no one has yet even acknowledged that there is something rather odd and inconsistent with this or that it is even worth discussing/clarifying. Maybe no one even LOOKs at that summary screen to get information on what ships are available at a certain base. If they don't then obviously the screen is usless/redundnat to players so why even have it in the game?

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ORIGINAL: Bullman

I'm sorry if there has been any confusion in actually WHAT part of the game I was refering to.  Just in case, this is the screen I am talking about.

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I know that I have not paid any attention to it for years because the information it provides is much more easily accessible (and without the problem you question) with the base mouseover

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ORIGINAL:  Local Yokel
Bullman's criticism is justified.  The grouping of ships on the base screen is arbitrary and in some cases counter-intuitive.  For example:
'AU' was presumably intended to be a shorthand for 'Auxiliaries', yet vessels in the PC and PG catagory are included in this grouping.
'DM' is the code for a destroyer-minelayer, yet all mine warfare craft get included within this grouping - with the exception of MLE's, which (probably correctly) get assigned to the 'AU' group.
Most confusing of all is the treatment of scout cruisers ('CS' type vessels).  On the ships screen, these get filtered in and out by selecting 'CA/CL', but in the base screen CS ships are assigned to the 'AV' group.
For me this isn't a big issue as I can usually keep a reasonably accurate picture of critical ships' whereabouts "in me 'ead".  But for those hoping to receive enlightenment from the base details screen, the ship groupings used aren't very helpful.  Have some sympathy for the interface designer, though: presenting this information unambiguously isn't straightforward.

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ORIGINAL:  pompack
The confusion that I had about your question was finally cleared up with this screenshot.  I think that the reason people had a problem answering your question is because few people really LOOK at that portion of the screen.  I know that I have not paid any attention to it for years because the information it provides is much more easily accessible (and without the problem you question) with the base mouseover

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ORIGINAL: Bullman

Here is just ONE example of the confusion that is generated by this inconsistency. How is this not OBVIOUSLY confusing???

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ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

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ORIGINAL: Bullman

Here is just ONE example of the confusion that is generated by this inconsistency. How is this not OBVIOUSLY confusing???

Odd that in 4+ years of service, no one has ever complained about this before. If this confuses you, seriously, you really shouldnt play. There is little more I can say.

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ORIGINAL: Mynok
The BI screen is a leftover from Uncommon Valor, where many of the types in Witp don't even exist in the game.

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ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger
Odd that in 4+ years of service, no one has ever complained about this before. If this confuses you, seriously, you really shouldnt play. There is little more I can say.

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ORIGINAL: Bullman

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ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger
Odd that in 4+ years of service, no one has ever complained about this before. If this confuses you, seriously, you really shouldnt play. There is little more I can say.

Well thanks for the encouragement. Seriously, based on what you said, you probably shoouln't have said anything at all. I won't bother even trying to understand how you think it is not confusing. I am sure you mean well however.