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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 11:53:37 AM   
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90 years ago today a treaty was signed that many claims laid the foundation for WWII,
a)what treaty, and
b)were was it signed?
c)What part did the answer for Q b play in WWII?

a) The Versaille treaty of armistice that ended WWI (ans some say, started WWII).
b) Versaille, in a wagon.
c) Hitler wanted to sign the surrender of the French army in June 1940 in the same wagon.

Actually, the armistice was signed at the Compiègne Forest on November 11, 1918. The Treaty of Versailles wasn't signed until June 1919. The Great War didn't officially end until then, which explains why so many memorials have 1914-1919 on them. The French cease fire in 1940 was signed in the same railway carriage.

Incidentally, I think it's interesting that World War One is being called the Great War again.

Cheers, Neilster


Isn't the forest of Compiègne on the lands of Versailles ? (Versailles is a city, more than simply the Palace) .

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 12:25:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Q: What CW Field Marshal fought against the UK at the turn of the century, what CW nation was he from, and what was his position within that nation?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 1:22:32 PM   
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Guderian often challenged Hitler too.

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Yes I was thinking of Guderian who got relieved of command in october 1941 by Hitler. Guderian was spearheading the advance to Moscow but got an order to turn for Kiev. According to some, though not sure it is him who told this : if we don't take Moscow we will loose the war. In 1943 he was appointed to inspect the german armored forces, though some say it was a way for Hitler to "punish" him by not giving him a command in the field. In 1945, he got to command field forces again. And again, he did criticize Hitler's command and was again relieved of duty for "sickness" reasons told Hitler.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 1:27:59 PM   
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Stalin conducted the Purges because he rightly feared his Generals. No purges and Stalin probably wouldn't have been alive or in charge in the Summer of 1941. The Soviet Citizenry believe that no Stalin and the war would have been lost in the first 6 months.


The soviet citizenry were "brainwashed". If they would have say otherwise Stalin would have send them to the Goulag. We will never know what could have happened, an interesting whatif.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 1:32:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for your answers for the Question "german commander who did criticize Hitler" it turned out I learned something.

Another question, the name or surname of a canadian-american fighting force. Yes, a brigade composed of american and canadian soldiers in the same force. The only to my limited knowledge to have existed in WW2.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 1:34:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		This General was awararded his countries highest award for valor in the face of the enemy. He was shot in the face and lost an eye in Africa. Lost a hand in France. The General was shot through the head without any lasting injury. Had other injuries in his hip, ear, leg and ankle. Wounded in action no less than 8 times. Survived when his airtransport was shot by enemy fighters killing his aide. Was later taken prisoner after his airplane had crashed due to engine failure. Made 5 attempts to flee imprisonment including a 8 days attempt on the run.

1) What is the name of the General.

2) What campaign did he later descibe as the dullest campaign he had been in?


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 5:32:23 PM   
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I am a regular reader of this forum since 2004 but I never dared to subscribe because the last time I played WiF was summer 1996 (5th edition I believe) so I am not up to date with the game.
(another reason is I wanted you to believe we French people could all speak English like Patrice )

The reason why I dare to do so today is that I was born a mere 20 miles away from Compiègne so I can't let you think that Compiègne is on the lands of Versailles.

Compiègne is located 60km North of Paris, in the "Picardie" region whereas Versailles is located 30 km West of Paris in the "Ile de France" region. While Louis XIV had his home in Versailles, he never visited Compiègne. However, Napoleon III enjoyed frequent stays in Compiègne, hence the locals call it "la Cité Impériale".

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 6:50:24 PM   
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Hi all,

I am a regular reader of this forum since 2004 but I never dared to subscribe because the last time I played WiF was summer 1996 (5th edition I believe) so I am not up to date with the game.
(another reason is I wanted you to believe we French people could all speak English like Patrice )


Welcome! And we do not bite THAT hard, so keep posting

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 6:54:59 PM   
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Q: What CW Field Marshal fought against the UK at the turn of the century, what CW nation was he from, and what was his position within that nation?

Answer mailed me, Jan Smuts was the Prime Minister of South Africa at the outset of the war, and fought against the British in the Second Boer War.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 7:14:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		A few ironic questions:

Q1: What was the name of the US Navy Command on Dec 7th 1941?
Q2: What was the name of Hitler's personal train on Dec 7th 1941?
Q3: Fighter planes would often load their guns so that one in aprox 5 bullets would be a tracer so that they could adjust their fire on sight, why was this a mistake?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 7:22:43 PM   
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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 7:26:33 PM   
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Q3: Because the enemy could also see where the fire was coming from


Hehe true, did not think about that, but this is not what I am after.
Hint: bullets vs tracers

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 7:29:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now I am guessing that the bullets and the tracers did not follow the same trajectory -- so that the tracers would encourage you to aim in the wrong direction.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 7:37:06 PM   
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Now I am guessing that the bullets and the tracers did not follow the same trajectory -- so that the tracers would encourage you to aim in the wrong direction.

Correct. The tracers and the bullets did not have the same weight, making you hit with the tracers but miss with your bullets.

ooo post #1k, guess this thread has indeed served my main purposes for starting it

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 8:10:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: terje439

A few ironic questions:

Q1: What was the name of the US Navy Command on Dec 7th 1941?
Q2: What was the name of Hitler's personal train on Dec 7th 1941?
Q3: Fighter planes would often load their guns so that one in aprox 5 bullets would be a tracer so that they could adjust their fire on sight, why was this a mistake?

Warspite1

1. CINCUS
2. AMERIKA

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 8:18:21 PM   
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Stalin conducted the Purges because he rightly feared his Generals. No purges and Stalin probably wouldn't have been alive or in charge in the Summer of 1941. The Soviet Citizenry believe that no Stalin and the war would have been lost in the first 6 months.


The soviet citizenry were "brainwashed". If they would have say otherwise Stalin would have send them to the Goulag. We will never know what could have happened, an interesting whatif.

Warspite1

Absolutely right - I remember reading one episode that sums up the cult of Stalin and how the "citizenry" perceived him. During the subjugation of the Kulaks and the resultant starvation - leading to canibalisation - in Ukraine, many Kulaks believed that if Stalin knew was what going on he would have stopped it........


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 8:24:22 PM   
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Still two questions o/s:

Which was the only Royal Navy ship fitted with 5-inch main armament? and why?


Which French battleship served with the British Eastern/East Indies Fleet in WWII? - I thought Patrice might know that one..

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 8:47:06 PM   
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Which was the only Royal Navy ship fitted with 5-inch main armament? and why?



Maybe an armed merchant ship disguised as unarmed. The 5-inch gun being smaller and easy to hide so the armed merchant is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 9:05:18 PM   
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Which was the only Royal Navy ship fitted with 5-inch main armament? and why?



Maybe an armed merchant ship disguised as unarmed. The 5-inch gun being smaller and easy to hide so the armed merchant is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Warspite1

No. Clue: She`s a cruiser.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 11:46:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: terje439

A few ironic questions:

Q1: What was the name of the US Navy Command on Dec 7th 1941?
Q2: What was the name of Hitler's personal train on Dec 7th 1941?
Q3: Fighter planes would often load their guns so that one in aprox 5 bullets would be a tracer so that they could adjust their fire on sight, why was this a mistake?

Warspite1

1. CINCUS
2. AMERIKA


Yup, #1 gave me a laugh the first time I read it

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 11:58:09 PM   
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Which French battleship served with the British Eastern/East Indies Fleet in WWII? - I thought Patrice might know that one..


I do not recall what happened to the Richelieu, so might be that one?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2008 11:58:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		5 inch RN cruiser...Hmm would be waaay easier if you asked for a class with 5.25 inch

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/13/2008 6:49:05 AM   
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Which French battleship served with the British Eastern/East Indies Fleet in WWII? - I thought Patrice might know that one..


I do not recall what happened to the Richelieu, so might be that one?

Warspite1

Thats the baby.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/13/2008 6:52:55 AM   
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5 inch RN cruiser...Hmm would be waaay easier if you asked for a class with 5.25 inch

Warspite1

Yes it would - but that was not the question . This was just one ship within a class

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/13/2008 8:21:33 AM   
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5 inch RN cruiser...Hmm would be waaay easier if you asked for a class with 5.25 inch

Warspite1

Yes it would - but that was not the question . This was just one ship within a class


This Q has been bugging me all night, and I still have no answer
The 5 inch is not typical RN, more USN. And I know one of the RN cruisers took a hit at Malta (I believe it was Malta at least) and was repaired in the US. So I guess it is that cruiser that had her guns refitted as well, but her name?! #¤&%&!!!!

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/13/2008 10:07:21 AM   
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This General was awararded his countries highest award for valor in the face of the enemy. He was shot in the face and lost an eye in Africa. Lost a hand in France. The General was shot through the head without any lasting injury. Had other injuries in his hip, ear, leg and ankle. Wounded in action no less than 8 times. Survived when his airtransport was shot by enemy fighters killing his aide. Was later taken prisoner after his airplane had crashed due to engine failure. Made 5 attempts to flee imprisonment including a 8 days attempt on the run.

1) What is the name of the General.

2) What campaign did he later descibe as the dullest campaign he had been in?


-Orm


I know this is a difficult one so I add some more facts.

He is considered by many to be one of the most remarkable figures in British military history.
He recived all his wounds in WWI as well as the Victoria Cross. At the end of WWI he said "Frankly I had enjoyed the war..."
During the WWII campaign he considered dull he commanded "Mauriceforce".

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/13/2008 1:59:04 PM   
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Another question, the name or surname of a canadian-american fighting force. Yes, a brigade composed of american and canadian soldiers in the same force. The only to my limited knowledge to have existed in WW2.


A clue, it was a super-commando created in 1942 by the U.S. and Canadian armed forces. Any idea someone what was the name of this unit?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/13/2008 2:11:50 PM   
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A clue, it was a super-commando created in 1942 by the U.S. and Canadian armed forces. Any idea someone what was the name of this unit?


Devil's Brigade, I believe. What the actual unit name was I cannot recall (2nd something-or-other brigade...).

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/13/2008 2:52:51 PM   
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A clue, it was a super-commando created in 1942 by the U.S. and Canadian armed forces. Any idea someone what was the name of this unit?


Devil's Brigade, I believe. What the actual unit name was I cannot recall (2nd something-or-other brigade...).

The Black Devils, this unit was a special secret force, even now I have difficulties finding something on them on the internet. They served in the Pacific then were recalled in Europe in 1944 for the Anzio landings. The germans called them "Schwartzen Teufels", hence Black Devils, because of their ability to pass unnoticed and the black they used to paint their faces. They were the first allied unit to enter Rome. They suffered a very high casuality rate.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/13/2008 4:11:02 PM   
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