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RE: Check the Front Page! - 6/5/2008 11:00:09 PM

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Look. let's stop arguing spelling and stick to the weighty, important matter of making sure I get what I want. (Hmm, that might come over a teensy bit self centred) ... err, pretty please? Look, I have Carriers at War here, and I've not played it since running the demo bit on download day (there will not be a contest to guess why).... now, let's have a modicum of consideration here at the very least - what sort of a message does it give the average browsing possible customer type to hear that Matrix couldn't be bothered to launch AE on my selected choice of day, probably forcing me to play CAW as a stop gap, after I went to the trouble of travelling all that way and buying a PC just to play it?

Dave
(...and let us not forget that ox cart).

Wait a second there. You are flying 8 hours then having to drive through Orlando traffic and complaining about an Ox Cart ride?! Um, maybe its just me, but I think I'd pick the Ox Cart over Orlando traffic.

Yep, Orlando traffic is a bitch....especially during the height of tourist season with all teh Canadians coming to Mickey Mouse Land!

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 7/13/2008 2:26:54 AM

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I'd just like to point out that
1) I have been here in Florida for 5 days now
2) I bought a PC and got it online on Tuesday
3) AE still hasn't been released.

Frankly Matrix I consider this a very poor show, I gave you 2 months notice and STILL you make me wait. I suppose you realise I have no excuse and must now take the family off to meet the mouse repeatedly? (Braving all those canadians, as Hans pointed out). I have temporarily fallen back on Steel Panthers and a copy of Guderian's 'Panzer Leader', and I blame Matrix for that.

Dave

Harumph.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 7/13/2008 5:31:53 AM

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July in central Florida. I pity you, Dave.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 7/14/2008 3:27:19 AM

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Well it's a bit on the rainy and thundery side,
but unlike Scotland it's occasionally sunny and the rain is warm - so on the whole an improvement.
It's sunny in the morning for the pool, and I have a lot of toys out here....the mouse stuff IS wearing a bit thin though, I'm beginning to enjoy a visit to Walmart more.....

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 10/18/2008 9:04:47 PM

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I've been away awhile. See "Apollo11" is still living in his "Croatian Navy" dream world. Somethings don't change.

Question #1 - Is the limitation on numbers of devices that can be assigned to ships or aircraft eased or eliminated. This feature was obviously carried over from PacWar. The result was all IJN ships carrying 24" (61cm) torpedoes carried Type 93's when many should have been carrying Type 90 or Type 8's even as into late 1942. The result was to give the IJN an unreasonable edge in surface combat. Other probelsm were combining 20 degree elevation 15"/42 Mk.I (26,650yds w/1938lb APHE) with 30 degree 15"/42 Mk.IN (33,550yds w/1938lbs APHE), 16"/45 Mk.1 & Mk.5 combined with 16"/45 Mk.6 and so on.

Question #2 - Are the merchant ships revised to include ALL known IJN and Allied merchant ships and Naval Auxiliaries and to expand the types of merchant ships so that carry capacity, cruising speed and range and size are better match to historical ships?

Question #3 - Any adjustment of protection for angles of attack due to sloped armor or quality of armor (KNC versus VNC or JVC of USN Class "A" armor aboev and below 7.5" in thickness)?

Question #4 - Adjustment of IJNAF types, ie. while the USN used dive bombers as scout bombers (SBD, SB2U, etc), this was not the case with the D3A "Val". When there weren't enough floatplanes, the IJNAF used the B5N/B6N as scouts/recon. How about the "Swordfish" and the "Barracuda" as TSRs with dive bombing capabilities.

Question #5 - Have air groups been adjusted? HMS Hermes carried only Swordfish TSRs and USS Long Island carried F2A-3s and SOC-2/3As.

Question #6 - Has participation in major landing operations been limited only to those ships capable of carrying landing craft?

Question #7 - Has the game allowance for IJN subs carrying mines been eliminated?

Question #8 - Will the AI stop running computer managed convoys through enemy controlled (especially areas within strike range of enemy a/c) areas?

Just some questions.

For those that need to know, SMS K u.K "Viribus Unitus" was laid down (1910), launched (1911) and completed (1912) at Trieste DY, an Italian port then administered by the Kingdom of Hungary within the Dual Monarchy of Austria-Hungary. The name is Latin and refers to an Empire unified from a number of ethnic, national and religious factions by loyalty to the King-Emperor. On 1 November 1918, she was handed over to officers of the Royal Yugoslav Navy at Pola, a port on the Adriatic which had been a major shipyard of the now defunct Autro-Hungarian Navy. She was sunk by charges placed on her hull by Italian operatives on 10 Nov 1918. There is some question as to whether the port was considered as part of Croatia, but Croatia did not exist as a seperate political entity until after the occupation of Yugoslavia by the Germans, Italians, Hungarians and Bulgarians in May 1941 and was subsumed back into the State of Yugoslavia in 1946, not becoming an independent entity util after the death of Tito and the dissoultion of Yugoslavia in the 1990's. Thus there was never a Croatian Navy during the time in which the SMS "Viribus Unitus" was in existence.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 10/18/2008 9:25:50 PM

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Hi all,

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ORIGINAL: LTCMTS

I've been away awhile. See "Apollo11" is still living in his "Croatian Navy" dream world. Somethings don't change.

For those that need to know, SMS K u.K "Viribus Unitus" was laid down (1910), launched (1911) and completed (1912) at Trieste DY, an Italian port then administered by the Kingdom of Hungary within the Dual Monarchy of Austria-Hungary. The name is Latin and refers to an Empire unified from a number of ethnic, national and religious factions by loyalty to the King-Emperor. On 1 November 1918, she was handed over to officers of the Royal Yugoslav Navy at Pola, a port on the Adriatic which had been a major shipyard of the now defunct Autro-Hungarian Navy. She was sunk by charges placed on her hull by Italian operatives on 10 Nov 1918. There is some question as to whether the port was considered as part of Croatia, but Croatia did not exist as a seperate political entity until after the occupation of Yugoslavia by the Germans, Italians, Hungarians and Bulgarians in May 1941 and was subsumed back into the State of Yugoslavia in 1946, not becoming an independent entity util after the death of Tito and the dissoultion of Yugoslavia in the 1990's. Thus there was never a Croatian Navy during the time in which the SMS "Viribus Unitus" was in existence.

Ahm... since I was directly mentioned I think it is fair to respond...

As always I offer several links for "Viribus Unitis" of KuK (and her sisters) - just read it:

Austro-Hungarian Tegetthoff Class

History of the Tegetthoff Class Battleships

BTW, the "Royal Yugoslav Navy" part made me laugh so much that I almost fell of my chair... (Yugoslavia as name only appeared in 1929 and "royal" Serbia never ever had any sea and thus never had any navy)...

Also Croatia existed as political and territorial entity for more than 1000 years... it was independent at first in 7th / 8th / 9th / 10th century but after it was part of Hungarian Kingdom and later Austrian kingdom and empire... Croatia was as old or older as Czech republic which shared the same fate in same kingdoms and empires for hundreds and hundreds of years...

Leo "Apollo11"

P.S. [Edit]
Sighted typos fixed.

< Message edited by Apollo11 -- 10/18/2008 9:35:08 PM >

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 11/5/2008 10:06:45 PM

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Question for you Erik Rutin perhaps. I noticed that the new Matrix game "Watch on Rhine" went gold on Oct 22 and then was available for sale/download on Oct 28th. So, after the glorious day AE goes gold why would we have to wait a number of weeks/months for release?

I Can't remember where in these threads I read that info.
Is it a problem of scale? Documentation?

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 11/5/2008 10:38:52 PM

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Gold is getting to be more of a term of art these days. If there is in fact a gold master that needs to go to the presses, that can take weeks. However, in the age of digital downloads, that can more accurately mean the file needs to get to digital river and be added to their library, which if I recall WBTS was a matter of a few days.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 12/25/2008 4:34:52 PM

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This is just someones hobby, right? It will never be perfect. Look at the chages/mods to WIP. Quit diddling and get it on the street.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/9/2009 1:14:52 AM

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The below, unfortunately, turn out to be grossly over optimistic.

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The Admiral�s Edition expansion is currently scheduled for an early Summer, 2008 release.

Still in time?

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/9/2009 4:47:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: princep01

The below, unfortunately, turn out to be grossly over optimistic.

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ORIGINAL: Weidi72

The Admiral�s Edition expansion is currently scheduled for an early Summer, 2008 release.

Still in time?

Delaying the release in order to make a better product is (and was) CORRECT. At least in my opinion. The reasons were explained very well months ago.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/9/2009 8:38:13 PM

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Delaying the release in order to make a better product is (and was) CORRECT. At least in my opinion. The reasons were explained very well months ago.

I have to agree!!

I've beta tested for MS for a few of their products and it was all about the bottom line. There was a timetable set and the game was going gold by that particular date despite known unresolved issues. Believe me nothing is more frustrating to a beta team member than seeing issues not fixed. To their credit they patched the program and fixed it years later

Matrix should be commended for delaying the release to try and get all issues ironed out.

This game is going to be stellar and you can't rush quality work.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/9/2009 8:46:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: princep01

The below, unfortunately, turn out to be grossly over optimistic.

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ORIGINAL: Weidi72

The Admiral�s Edition expansion is currently scheduled for an early Summer, 2008 release.

Still in time?

AE was not in a usable state back then. You would have whined so loud it would have caused earthquakes if we'd released it in Q2 08.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/9/2009 11:08:40 PM

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This means it IS in a usable state at present.......

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/9/2009 11:49:10 PM

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OK, so getting it right is more important than getting it out before it's time. I can wait as long as my current WITP PBEMs are rolling along.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 12:04:08 AM

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We go as fast as we can cannot do more

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 12:35:32 AM

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We're all anxious, but most of us are willing to wait for you guys to release it when you feel that it's ready.

The situation with AE is quite a bit different from most game releases. The crew creating AE are people who bought and played WITP heavily, experiencing all the joys and frustrations with the game that we all experience when we're playing the game. Most of them have been heavily involved in the mods that the majority of us (at least those of us who have been playing it since it was released) have switched to.

Now they have been officially supported in creating a SuperMod of WITP: Admiral's Edition. From what I have read, AE is as big a jump over WITP as WITP was over UV. These guys have been working on it a lot longer than they expected, and they want to release it as soon as possible, if only to be done with it!

I am quite comfortable with waiting until the AE crew feels it is ready for the presses.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 1:33:34 AM

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AE is like a fine wine. Don't drink, release, it before it's time.

I personally can't wait but getting it before its time, not ready, would be worse than waiting.

Steve

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 4:39:44 AM

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I agree, I'm glad the team is taking the time to get it right. But I'd add this: This is a hugely complex project, and it's a labor of love for the team, so I will be in a forgiving mood about bugs and such when it finally is released.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 4:45:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

We're all anxious, but most of us are willing to wait for you guys to release it when you feel that it's ready.

The situation with AE is quite a bit different from most game releases. The crew creating AE are people who bought and played WITP heavily, experiencing all the joys and frustrations with the game that we all experience when we're playing the game. Most of them have been heavily involved in the mods that the majority of us (at least those of us who have been playing it since it was released) have switched to.

Now they have been officially supported in creating a SuperMod of WITP: Admiral's Edition. From what I have read, AE is as big a jump over WITP as WITP was over UV. These guys have been working on it a lot longer than they expected, and they want to release it as soon as possible, if only to be done with it!

I am quite comfortable with waiting until the AE crew feels it is ready for the presses.

Amen to every single point in that post.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 6:14:56 AM

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Since I missed my last guess (Dec 7th) I'll take another: Memorial Day 09.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 2:41:54 PM

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Please Sir, May I have some AE?

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 3:17:42 PM

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Sure kid, you got an obscene amount of money?

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 3:32:43 PM

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Sure kid, you got an obscene amount of money?

Are you saying that if we did, we could get it now?

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 3:52:31 PM

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Well, with the current financial climate, I'm banking that nobody has an obscene amount of money...

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 4:04:29 PM

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Well, with the current financial climate, I'm banking that nobody has an obscene amount of money...

I do if you are willing to accept a 3rd party post-dated check?

Let's party!!!

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 6:04:30 PM

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These guys working on AE are in a hurry to get it out!?! Are you kidding? They're playing PBEMs now to make sure things are working OK and we all know how horrible PBEM is.

T, the only amount of money that's obscene is if I have no money.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 6:06:23 PM

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Define obscene.

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RE: Check the Front Page! - 2/10/2009 6:07:38 PM

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