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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:17:02 PM   
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You and Historiker ended the conflift as well as any matures could. Good on ya both.

Agreed. Historiker, who seems a decent sort underneath it all, has a certain condescending tone to his mode of written expression (for example, "Being a scientist [and you don't have to be a scientist like me, just an uneducated slob like yourself], I have learned...") that could stand some humilifying, even in German, but that's hard for a native speaker of German. It's built into the language after centuries of cultural development.

Thing is, the rise of Teutonic people, then Prussia, then Germany, was dependent on creation - and encouragement - of a society that saw itself as elevated above the chaotic rabble (or otherwise threatening people) around them. Fom there, it was a short step to, "We will show the rest of you the way, and you should be grateful followers."

Old habits die hard. Even these days, when dying seems all too easy...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:18:55 PM   
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OK , along with being a geezer,(which I have never denied, and have the thread to prove it) apparently I am now a nationalistic ,swaggering ,jingoistic, chavenunistic @$$ who runs around demeaning Germans. And just when the flames have died down and everyone is smiling again, someone throws aviation fuel on the dying embers! Some days it doesn't pay to get out of bed, let alone to log on.

You talkin' to me?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:20:24 PM   
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OK , along with being a geezer,(which I have never denied, and have the thread to prove it) apparently I am now a nationalistic ,swaggering ,jingoistic, chavenunistic @$$ who runs around demeaning Germans. And just when the flames have died down and everyone is smiling again, someone throws aviation fuel on the dying embers! Some days it doesn't pay to get out of bed, let alone to log on.

linky goodness? its been a while since i was almost banned.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:21:21 PM   
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OK , along with being a geezer,(which I have never denied, and have the thread to prove it) apparently I am now a nationalistic ,swaggering ,jingoistic, chavenunistic @$$ who runs around demeaning Germans. And just when the flames have died down and everyone is smiling again, someone throws aviation fuel on the dying embers! Some days it doesn't pay to get out of bed, let alone to log on.

You talkin' to me?


Hardly Pas. No it's another individual who seeks to yet again resurrect the "Name this equipment thread". You know the one, that like Frankenstien's monster won't die.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:23:08 PM   
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OK , along with being a geezer,(which I have never denied, and have the thread to prove it) apparently I am now a nationalistic ,swaggering ,jingoistic, chavenunistic @$$ who runs around demeaning Germans. And just when the flames have died down and everyone is smiling again, someone throws aviation fuel on the dying embers! Some days it doesn't pay to get out of bed, let alone to log on.

linky goodness? its been a while since i was almost banned.

No links. I had hoped that Erik would have locked that monster when he ruled on it. Let it die.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:26:14 PM   
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Hardly Pas. No it's another individual who seeks to yet again resurrect the "Name this equipment thread". You know the one, that like Frankenstien's monster won't die.

Yah, I see it, Steve, I went back and read the latest posts. Forget it, man. It's what always happens when nationality starts being the subject around here instead of, "Jeez, I had two pots of coffee this morning and saw god."

You're one of the well-meaning people around this dump. Don't let 'em get to ya. The way I see it, having a serious discussion about anything but the games themselves on the Matrix forums is about like teaching a boar to ice skate. You might get 'er done, but yer gonna get kicked in the wang dang doodle so many times while yer at it, you'll wind up wishin' you hadn't.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:29:18 PM   
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linky goodness?

Mmmm. That reminds me. It's time to go warm up a late night supper of leftover sauerkraut und wurst.

And then ...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:39:21 PM   
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Hardly Pas. No it's another individual who seeks to yet again resurrect the "Name this equipment thread". You know the one, that like Frankenstien's monster won't die.

Yah, I see it, Steve, I went back and read the latest posts. Forget it, man. It's what always happens when nationality starts being the subject around here instead of, "Jeez, I had two pots of coffee this morning and saw god."

You're one of the well-meaning people around this dump. Don't let 'em get to ya. The way I see it, having a serious discussion about anything but the games themselves on the Matrix forums is about like teaching a boar to ice skate. You might get 'er done, but yer gonna get kicked in the wang dang doodle so many times while yer at it, you'll wind up wishin' you hadn't.


Thanks , you always manage to put things in perspective, or at very least give me a damned good laugh!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:42:32 PM   
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Thanks , you always manage to put things in perspective, or at very least give me a damned good laugh!

Well, and then it's on to AE, where I have a feeling we may all be laughing - or crying - if it doesn't live up to the astronomically high expectations that are evident around here.

In the meantime, I'm just tryin' to be a lower-case Touchstone ("Carry yourself more seeming, Audrey").

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:46:17 PM   
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linky goodness?

Mmmm. That reminds me. It's time to go warm up a late night supper of leftover sauerkraut und wurst.

And then ...

its only 5........

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:47:24 PM   
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linky goodness?

Mmmm. That reminds me. It's time to go warm up a late night supper of leftover sauerkraut und wurst.

And then ...

its only 5........


In your part of Texas......not in the rest of the world......

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:48:12 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 10:48:29 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 11:02:40 PM   
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its only 5........

where you are, Mr. I'm the Center of the Universe.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 11:03:42 PM   
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oh wait i am being nationalistic now.

Ain't it just like a Texican?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 11:35:07 PM   
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oh wait i am being nationalistic now.

Ain't it just like a Texican?

it's TEXAN get it right ya damn yankee.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 11:43:19 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/6/2009 11:48:20 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/7/2009 12:07:25 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/7/2009 12:41:10 AM   
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Hardly Pas. No it's another individual who seeks to yet again resurrect the "Name this equipment thread". You know the one, that like Frankenstien's monster won't die.

Yah, I see it, Steve, I went back and read the latest posts. Forget it, man. It's what always happens when nationality starts being the subject around here instead of, "Jeez, I had two pots of coffee this morning and saw god."

You're one of the well-meaning people around this dump. Don't let 'em get to ya. The way I see it, having a serious discussion about anything but the games themselves on the Matrix forums is about like teaching a boar to ice skate. You might get 'er done, but yer gonna get kicked in the wang dang doodle so many times while yer at it, you'll wind up wishin' you hadn't.

Thanks , you always manage to put things in perspective, or at very least give me a damned good laugh!

Ah, my two favorite people, except, of course for Mike, Mike, Don, Bobo, Dixie, Toe-boy, Log-boy, Leo, Gladiatt, Rogue, Went, Sprior, and everybody else.

But ya know, Historiker is one of the good guys too. He’s different, unique, granted. I know he sometimes sounds harsh; maybe it’s language and syntax, maybe it’s a Central European perspective thing, and he can be a dick, but I’ve never known him to be an a$$hole. He’s had me in stitches more then once and twice he’s had me singing that damn “Wir wollen unseren alten Kaiser Wilhelm wieder haben” thing, and diggin it, because I think I understand where it’s coming from.

The boy is forthright, straight-up, willing to take a position; but also willing to back away and let comradeship take place over the size of his winkie. His positions are not ugly. They may sound harsh, or sharp, but semantically, they are not ugly. He’s just like us, except he expresses himself in a very German fashion, and when he shows his ass, he shows it in a very German fashion. Well, shoot; he’s a German.

Sorry for the psycho-babbelo-extryallidocious doodoo, but I do like the boy, and if this helps my other friends understand him just a little bit better, it was worth it. He really is one of the good guys.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/7/2009 12:52:57 AM   
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Maybe its because I had four years of German, but I don't find his style problematic. Not that I'm fluent or anything but German does have a "feel" to it that can really sound wrong in English. True for all languages I'm sure. We think in the style of our mother tongue most of the time, and it comes through, even in those who are amazing fluent in other languages like T.

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Well, shoot; he’s a German.


I'm just waiting for that to get taken out of context and turned into a war call.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/7/2009 2:37:09 AM   
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Maybe its because I had four years of German, but I don't find his style problematic. Not that I'm fluent or anything but German does have a "feel" to it that can really sound wrong in English. True for all languages I'm sure. We think in the style of our mother tongue most of the time, and it comes through, even in those who are amazing fluent in other languages like T.

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Well, shoot; he’s a German.


I'm just waiting for that to get taken out of context and turned into a war call.



Well, you being a Martian and all, I bet ALL us sound funny at times.

Are all Martians as fluent in English as yourself ?


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/7/2009 2:41:45 AM   
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OK , along with being a geezer,(which I have never denied, and have the thread to prove it) apparently I am now a nationalistic ,swaggering ,jingoistic, chavenunistic @$$ who runs around demeaning Germans. And just when the flames have died down and everyone is smiling again, someone throws aviation fuel on the dying embers! Some days it doesn't pay to get out of bed, let alone to log on.



You made valid points, ended it well. It adds spice to have some of these interesting discussions.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/7/2009 2:45:41 AM   
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Ah, my two favorite people, except, of course for Mike, Mike, Don, Bobo, Dixie, Toe-boy, Log-boy, Leo, Gladiatt, Rogue, Went, Sprior, and everybody else.

Poop on you, too. You're my favorite septic tank, except the one I use for septic, rather than comic, reasons.
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But ya know, Historiker is one of the good guys too.

Agreed, but Steve's last problem was not with Historiker...
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Sorry for the psycho-babbelo-extryallidocious doodoo, but I do like the boy, and if this helps my other friends understand him just a little bit better, it was worth it. He really is one of the good guys.

So, as my South Fork of the Cheyenne tribesmen might say (after loose translation into English), "Let his lightning strike not to ignite the prairie, but to give light so that the children do not fear the dark."

And your lightning could use a little conduit encasement too, stud. "Psycho-babbelo-extryallidocious doodoo"? What are you so nervous about? Us injuns already nailed Yellowhair. We got nothin' against you ... yet ...

< Message edited by pasternakski -- 7/7/2009 3:05:12 AM >

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/7/2009 2:49:50 AM   
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Maybe its because I had four years of German, but I don't find his style problematic. Not that I'm fluent or anything but German does have a "feel" to it that can really sound wrong in English. True for all languages I'm sure. We think in the style of our mother tongue most of the time, and it comes through, even in those who are amazing fluent in other languages like T.

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Well, shoot; he’s a German.


I'm just waiting for that to get taken out of context and turned into a war call.



Well, you being a Martian and all, I bet ALL us sound funny at times.

Are all Martians as fluent in English as yourself ?



Yes, you do. All the time. And no, few of us care to inculcate (word of the day!) the intricacies of English into our thought processes. Frankly, it isn't worth it for most. But since I'm espoused to an Earthling, it behooves me to try to understand her as best I can. That means learning and incorporating this bastard tongue of all the world into my brain patterns.

Rather like letting roaches into one's larder at times, but there are compensations.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/7/2009 2:50:23 AM   
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Maybe its because I had four years of German, but I don't find his style problematic. Not that I'm fluent or anything but German does have a "feel" to it that can really sound wrong in English. True for all languages I'm sure. We think in the style of our mother tongue most of the time, and it comes through, even in those who are amazing fluent in other languages like T.

I am fluent in German, and it is not a matter of style or syntax. He needs to be more immediately respectful and to stop inserting negative judgments into his initial comments. It's not a matter of language, it's a matter of civility.
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I'm just waiting for that to get taken out of context and turned into a war call.

Not here, Mars Bar Boy, not on this thread.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/7/2009 2:52:58 AM   
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inculcate (word of the day!)

Who you trying to educate, Mr. Sand Planet That We Think May Once Have Had Abundant Water But No Intelligent Life Boy?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/7/2009 2:53:53 AM   
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What's civil in German might very well be not so much in English. It's an unfortunate truth.

Of course, there's always the ever present issue of message boards transmitting none of the non-verbal communicating that humans rely on more heavily than they realize.



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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/7/2009 2:54:59 AM   
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inculcate (word of the day!)

Who you trying to educate, Mr. Sand Planet That We Think May Once Have Had Abundant Water But No Intelligent Life Boy?


Just because you can't find it.......

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/7/2009 2:58:40 AM   
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inculcate ... intricacies ... thought processes ... espoused ... behooves ...larder

Oh, brother. The martian waxes erudite by substituting highfalutin' words in his stuff instead of everyday ones.

Maybe H.G. Wells should have written ("authored?" "penned?") "Invasion from the Martian Multisyllabists" instead...

They would have killed Earthlings not with death rays, but with dissipated meaning.

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