Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: NeverMan

We've posted this before, pretty sure you've seen it. It's the same game.

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In the old game, typically both sides would fully-combine their movements in typical turns.

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Since Turkey goes before everybody but Russia, Turkey combined with France in any of the slots EXCEPT the one just before Russia. And, in order for France to go BEFORE Russia, she would have to NOT combine with Turkey.

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ORIGINAL: Jimmer

By the way, Marshall, whether it's a bug or not is one issue. But, this points out that my idea of changing turn order as a way of emulating "Combined Movement" CAN work. People wouldn't be truly combined, but it would not be possible to go between them, which is the true value of combined movement.

Example: France and Turkey are at war with everybody else except Spain. Normally, the turn order would be:

Russia
Turkey
Prussia
Austria
Great Britain
Spain

(I may not have those right, but they're close and will serve as an example.)

France could go anywhere in there. Let's assume last for now. (In here, I'll call GB/Prussia/Austria/Russia "the allies".)

In the old game, typically both sides would fully-combine their movements in typical turns. I'll hit the end-cases later.
Anyhow, that would mean there really were only 3 parties moving: Spain, the Allies, France/Turkey, in that order.

Currently, this cannot be changed. However, for the sake of argument, let's say the order could be changed, but without actually combining:

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Spain
---
Russia
Prussia
Austria
Great Britain
---
Turkey
France


The dashes (---) signify where France would be allowed to go, if my proposal works. France could go before Everybody, before the allies, or after the allies. Regardless of whether France chose before or after the allies, Turkey would shift with France, because there are really only four positions: Before everybody, before allies, or after allies/everybody.

Now, let's say Russia wants to go first, and so does not combine with the rest of the allies. In this case, the order would be:

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Russia
---
Spain
---
Prussia, Austria, GB
---
Turkey
---

Since Turkey goes before everybody but Russia, Turkey combined with France in any of the slots EXCEPT the one just before Russia. And, in order for France to go BEFORE Russia, she would have to NOT combine with Turkey.

This is a very simple setup from the original game, and I believe it would work in this game as well. Two things are needed:

A)  Code the ability to have all major powers change their movement slot (not "at-will", but by the computer/game, as determined by the use/non-use of "combined movement".
B)  Code the game such that France cannot choose to go between the allies. The "Combined Movement declaration" would happen in the diplomacy phase, so the game would know which slots were excluded from France's list at the time France would make the choice. Instead of seeing the full list of 7 powers and having the ability to pick any of the seven slots, France would be limited to the slots that are not between the allies.

NOTE: France would have already made HER choice of combined movement, but not of turn order. So, some possibilities might be excluded (the "before Russia" choice in the second example above, for instance).

Would it work?

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ORIGINAL: Marshall Ellis
We thought of emulating combined move through something of this type BUT it lacked the combined combat (Pr and Au attacking together as one force) which is key. Combined movement without combined combat is pretty useless IMO.