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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/28/2009 8:36:25 PM   
herwin

 

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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

After we get patch 1 out there and official I need to spend some more testing cycles on the Allied AI especially late 42/43 so if anyone has any feedback please thats probably my next AI priority - its been tested but I need to retest and see how it does


Andy, can you create a Midway scenario for people to work with?

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/29/2009 5:22:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

After we get patch 1 out there and official I need to spend some more testing cycles on the Allied AI especially late 42/43 so if anyone has any feedback please thats probably my next AI priority - its been tested but I need to retest and see how it does


I am in mid 43 and the only thing that bothers me is HQ's that have been withdrawn but the territory is still in friendly hands. Bases and units revert to "unknown" hq. Not sure if its a problem for logistics, at least I have not noticed any yet.

Still have a problem where a piece of a HQ was saved from Singapore but it will not fill out with support units. I have tried changing superior HQ's, moved it to a bigger base, put it on rest mode. Nothing is working. Its not listed as 224/x just RAF 224.

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/29/2009 6:12:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Andy - is just the patch required or a restart? I don't want to waste your time with feedback from a game in progress if it stays with the pre-patch AI after patching.

PS: I am in September '42 Allies vs AI. You are evil, evil, evil. Not the spray can stuff. The concentrate.

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/29/2009 8:00:06 AM   
Andy Mac

 

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I am not creatign scenarios I am testing the AI

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/29/2009 8:00:29 AM   
Andy Mac

 

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/29/2009 11:23:47 AM   
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Still have a problem where a piece of a HQ was saved from Singapore but it will not fill out with support units. I have tried changing superior HQ's, moved it to a bigger base, put it on rest mode. Nothing is working. Its not listed as 224/x just RAF 224.


I can add that i have the same problem with the 223 RAF HQ. It was loaded on 2 ships and one of them got sunk leaving a fragment. The Fragment eventually correctly rename it self from X/RAF 223 into the RAF 223 HQ non the less it hasnt been able to recieve any replacement since. To add, for a short periode and that might have some thing to do with it. A 223 RAF HQ was on reinforcement scheduel for GB but vanished from list/appeared in GB but isnt physically showing. Could be that a "ghost" fragment are hiding some where in cyberspace now and since it was the "parent" part of the unit even if remaining fragment was renamed it still "acts" like a fragment. Well its a theory.

The AHF HQ was destroyed as a whole in malaya and has come back via GB and are functioning correctly.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/29/2009 3:21:24 PM   
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RAAF OTU Adelaide is under Australia Command

That is inconsistent with the other "RAAF OTU" units, all of which are under RAAF Command (RAAF OTU Augusta, Sydney, Wagga, Canberra, Melbourne).

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/29/2009 6:10:34 PM   
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Unit "32th Australian Bn" should be "32nd Australian Bn".

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/29/2009 7:01:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Seeing the AI operate B17's from level 2 airfields, seems like too much of a cheat. Heavy bombers should be limited to level 4 for even the AI. I don't mind the AI getting bonuses but, seeing it not even using the same game rules is a bit much.










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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/29/2009 9:30:13 PM   
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Seeing the AI operate B17's from level 2 airfields, seems like too much of a cheat. Heavy bombers should be limited to level 4 for even the AI. I don't mind the AI getting bonuses but, seeing it not even using the same game rules is a bit much.



I tend to agree with you here!


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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/29/2009 9:55:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Buck Beach


quote:

ORIGINAL: pad152

Seeing the AI operate B17's from level 2 airfields, seems like too much of a cheat. Heavy bombers should be limited to level 4 for even the AI. I don't mind the AI getting bonuses but, seeing it not even using the same game rules is a bit much.



I tend to agree with you here!




I believe that was historical. A number of the Dutch bases in Borneo were secretly set up to facilitate bombers flying in, flying a mission, and flying out. How big was Guadalcanal when the B-17s started using it in the same way?

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/30/2009 4:14:25 AM   
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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/30/2009 11:32:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		probably already reported but under patch 1.083, hitting the button "toggle replacements for all units on or off" in the land unit overview, both buttons turn replacements on.
scenario 1.

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RE: AE Land and AI Issues - 8/30/2009 4:09:46 PM   
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scn. 1
slot 5348 86th Infantry Cav Division -- suffix is Cavalry Division -- should be Division



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RE: AE Land and AI Issues - 8/30/2009 6:08:51 PM   
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Beaverette A/C still has a very large load cost -- it should be 10, not 100.

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RE: AE Land and AI Issues - 8/30/2009 6:28:24 PM   
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scn. 1
slot 5348 86th Infantry Cav Division -- suffix is Cavalry Division -- should be Division




Noted. What's causing the problem is that the Division points to the wrong TOE. It will be fixed for Patch 2.

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/30/2009 10:15:07 PM   
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I believe that was historical. A number of the Dutch bases in Borneo were secretly set up to facilitate bombers flying in, flying a mission, and flying out. How big was Guadalcanal when the B-17s started using it in the same way?



If your going to allow 4 engine bombers to operate from level 2 airfields, then air field size doesn't mean anything any more. I don't know how big the airfield got on Guadalcanal, but today Honiara (Henderson Field) is the only international airport in the Solomon Islands at 7200ft long. My understanding is airfield size in WITP/AE represents more than just size but, also the facilities like fuel & bomb bunkers, repair facilities, etc.





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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/30/2009 10:24:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pad152


quote:

ORIGINAL: herwin

I believe that was historical. A number of the Dutch bases in Borneo were secretly set up to facilitate bombers flying in, flying a mission, and flying out. How big was Guadalcanal when the B-17s started using it in the same way?



If your going to allow 4 engine bombers to operate from level 2 airfields, then air field size doesn't mean anything any more. I don't know how big the airfield got on Guadalcanal, but today Honiara (Henderson Field) is the only international airport in the Solomon Islands at 7200ft long. My understanding is airfield size in WITP/AE represents more than just size but, also the facilities like fuel & bomb bunkers, repair facilities, etc.






Airfield size still matters. If the size is not at least 4 + (bombload/6500), then the unit will only carry extended range load, only have normal range and suffers more Ops losses.

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/31/2009 6:09:06 PM   
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In scenario 1 (possibly in the other variations too) some SNLF companies have an infantry icon instead of an amphibious infantry icon. Is this intentional?

example: identical equipment/squads, different icon:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/upfiles/32702/1306708722E5487F99417E6CF6E549DB.jpg

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/31/2009 8:28:29 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 8/31/2009 9:35:59 PM   
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unit # 4382, 51st naval guard starts first turn (dec 7) with preparation Jaluit/0, loaded on "Makin invasion" TF 15, docked at Jaluit and heading to Makin

unit # 4383, 52nd naval guard starts at Jaluit (and will stay there, the TF won't load it up), but has preparation Makin/50

I guess orders were mixed up and the TF commander loaded the wrong unit ;)

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 9/1/2009 12:01:37 AM   
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Unit 6402 - "3rd Carbiniers" - should be "Carabiniers."

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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 9/1/2009 10:41:09 PM   
medicff

 

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Status: offline 		AI uses CV tf as ramming/bombard/sc tf clearing force???

Hey Andy, don't know if your dept or programing but AI send its CV's into Bali Base hex (not near) and ran into PT boats and AMc on station there.

Were they just trying to move thru?


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Balikpapan at 64,97, Range 30,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu
CV Soryu
CV Zuikaku
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CL Oi
DD Arashi
DD Hagikaze
DD Asashio
DD Oshio

Allied Ships
MTB 7
MTB 8
MTB 9
MTB 11
MTB 12
MTB 26
MTB 27



Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
Range closes to 29,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 29,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 29,000 yards
Both TF attempt to withdraw!
Range increases to 30,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Balikpapan at 64,97, Range 30,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi
DD Arashio
DD Akatsuki
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
AMc MMS D



Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
Range closes to 29,000 yards...
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 25,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 25,000 yards
Both TF attempt to withdraw!
Range increases to 30,000 yards...
Range increases to 30,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat



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RE: AI Air Combat loss tolerance - 9/1/2009 11:36:38 PM   
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RE: AI Air Combat loss tolerance - 9/2/2009 12:51:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jap AI taking bases and throwing the defender out. The Japs move on and leave a unit not destroyed nearby. The allies move back to retake the base. This has happened more than once.

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RE: AI Air Combat loss tolerance - 9/2/2009 2:43:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

I adjusted this in the patch I hope


Probably , I patched over the stock GC scenario 2 so I did not get the AI changes.


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RE: AI Air Combat loss tolerance - 9/2/2009 12:58:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I still have an AI surface warfare TF sitting in Davao harbor.  It arrived a week ago and just sat there, not bombarding or anything else, until an invasion TF showed up and began unloading.  During that time the TF (a BB, CA and 2 DD's) had the BB torpedoed by a PBY, Dutch subs fired numerous torpedoes at them, and I ran a surface TF in there to shake them up.

I also pulled all the Allied LCU's in the area to Davao when it was obvious that -something- was going to happen there soon.  Now there's three infantry units dug in there instead of the one the AI was expecting, and the TF is STILL not bombarding!

(BTW this is with the beta patch installed)

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RE: AI Air Combat loss tolerance - 9/2/2009 2:18:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Beaverette A/C has a load cost of 100.  I suspect it's a typo and should read 10, in line with the other armo(u)red cars.

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RE: AI Air Combat loss tolerance - 9/2/2009 3:46:43 PM   
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Unit 5907 "Madion Base Force" should be "Madioen Base Force"
Unit 5908 "Loemafjang Base Force" should be "Loemadjang Base Force"
Unit 5916 "Den Passer Base Force" should be "Den Passar Base Force"

Cheers!
fbs

ps: I can't believe I'm reviewing the spelling of all units named after places, to make sure they match the spelling of the place... hahahah

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