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ORIGINAL: Bradley62

Youtube has higher res, some of the HOI3 vids are quite impressive and seem to be drumming up more excitement for its release. Just as well looking forward to this.

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ORIGINAL: Bradley62

Youtube has higher res, some of the HOI3 vids are quite impressive and seem to be drumming up more excitement for its release. Just as well looking forward to this.

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ORIGINAL: micheljq

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ORIGINAL: Bradley62

Youtube has higher res, some of the HOI3 vids are quite impressive and seem to be drumming up more excitement for its release. Just as well looking forward to this.

Is it videos taken from the actual game? --> videos screenshots?

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

I just placed the symbols for a hex that is beign invaded by air and/or sea lower on the counters so they do not overlie the other information. As perhaps is obvious, here the Para unit has just paradropped and the Motorized has just invaded from a naval transport (amphibiuous optional rule not in play). Notice the Selectable units list in the upper left, which shows the 3 naval units that can provide shore bombardment.

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EDIT: also notice the odds ratio shown in the message bar of the main form.

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

I just placed the symbols for a hex that is beign invaded by air and/or sea lower on the counters so they do not overlie the other information. As perhaps is obvious, here the Para unit has just paradropped and the Motorized has just invaded from a naval transport (amphibiuous optional rule not in play). Notice the Selectable units list in the upper left, which shows the 3 naval units that can provide shore bombardment.

Nice

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EDIT: also notice the odds ratio shown in the message bar of the main form.

This show 3 combat factors for the defender, which looks like it is wrong.
From what I can see, the notional has 2 combat factors : 1 basic combat point plus 1 for being in a german unit ZoC.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: Froonp
This show 3 combat factors for the defender, which looks like it is wrong.
From what I can see, the notional has 2 combat factors : 1 basic combat point plus 1 for being in a german unit ZoC.

There is a second point for the adjacent corp defender and a third for the invasion coming out of the 2 sea area section box (the US transport - partially visible).

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

I have created a new form for Replacement Naval units. It isn't quite done yet - I want the Location information to refelct where the current unit is and where the replacement unit will start out.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

This is one idea that we could keep for MWiF 2 :
Given that the countermix is not restricted by printing counters, we could have multiple versions of most naval counters.
I mean, we could first have the 1939 version of the ship, and then x replacement counters (using the same bitmap) that we could buy or not buy.

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ORIGINAL: micheljq

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

This is one idea that we could keep for MWiF 2 :
Given that the countermix is not restricted by printing counters, we could have multiple versions of most naval counters.
I mean, we could first have the 1939 version of the ship, and then x replacement counters (using the same bitmap) that we could buy or not buy.

You mean an upgrade of a naval unit, like when they refit a battleship? In MWiF2, airplanes could also be upgraded, and tanks, etc. a suggestion. I mean you start with the Panzer IIIe, later you upgrade (for a fee) to version Panzer IIIJ. You start with the Spitfire 1, later you upgrade the airplane to Spitfire version 5, etc.

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

Well, new or improved planes, new or improved tanks, are already there with the current game.

New / improved planes are here because each year new models arrive in your force pool, and new or improved tanks already exist in some form with the heavy unit rule, that allows to upgrade nearly any WiF FE land units to a "Heavy Weapons" version of the same unit.

Ships on the other hand, are represented 1 per counter in WiF FE, and there is only one counter for that ship for all the game. The game provides replacement ships for some famous upgrades & reconversion (Shinano, Ise & Hyuga), but the computer game could offer the possibility to upgrade any ship.

In WW2, most capital ships had improvement made to them. Sometime more gun power, most of the time more AA.

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ORIGINAL: micheljq
I know but that could be modeled in another way. Actually you buy a Spitfire I, but you will never upgrade your onmap fighter to another more modern version. Instead you will buy a more modern version of the same fighter in a late year, like a Spitfire V, and it's random. No, I don't speak about that.

I mean that when the Spitfire V is available, you return your Spitfire I in a repair, or upgrade pool, call it like you want, you pay some BPs, and after a couple of turn it is available for reinforcements as a Spitfire V.

Likewise for a naval unit, for example, I don't know you begin with the WW1 version of a battleship, but from a certain year, you have the option of sending this BB into a refit, construction, or repair pool, and after a certain number of turns, you have the upgraded, refitted version of the BB available as reinforcement.

It could be done with tanks, but rather complicated, the armor corps are not of particular model because of the scale involved I suppose.

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

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ORIGINAL: micheljq
I know but that could be modeled in another way. Actually you buy a Spitfire I, but you will never upgrade your onmap fighter to another more modern version. Instead you will buy a more modern version of the same fighter in a late year, like a Spitfire V, and it's random. No, I don't speak about that.

I mean that when the Spitfire V is available, you return your Spitfire I in a repair, or upgrade pool, call it like you want, you pay some BPs, and after a couple of turn it is available for reinforcements as a Spitfire V.

Likewise for a naval unit, for example, I don't know you begin with the WW1 version of a battleship, but from a certain year, you have the option of sending this BB into a refit, construction, or repair pool, and after a certain number of turns, you have the upgraded, refitted version of the BB available as reinforcement.

It could be done with tanks, but rather complicated, the armor corps are not of particular model because of the scale involved I suppose.

Yes, but in reality, Spitfire I are not upgraded to Spitfire V. The squadron that flies Spitfire I gets Spitfire V when they are available, and the old Spitfire I are discarted or given to training squadrons. The air reserve pool and pilot rule models that very well IMO.

The fact that you pick randomly the new counters for the new builts, and that the Spitfire V may be delayed compared to WW2, of may come earlier, IMO models the difference that the WW2 modeled by WiF FE have compared to real WW2.

Ships are different matter, and the replacement rule works well for them. But the paper game only have a chosen amount of replacement counters where the computer game (version 2) could have more.

What we'd need would be for people such as Warspite to identify all the upgrades that were done to ships during WW2, and to estimate the starting 1939 factors and estimate the factors after upgrade.

Maybe only CV and BB should be subject to this, because CL and CA are too small to have their factor vary because of more guns or more armor. I mean, a 4 increased by 10% is a 4.4 when a 8 increased by 10% is 8.8.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Here is the corrected Replacements form.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Here is the corrected Replacements form.

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ORIGINAL: Orm

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Here is the corrected Replacements form.

Does the following line mean that the new location for the replaced ship would be the construnction pool if the ship is replaced?
Replacement Unit Location = Constuction pool

If so, could that be expressed clearer by saying "new location" or "after replacement" or something like that?

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: Orm

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Here is the corrected Replacements form.

Does the following line mean that the new location for the replaced ship would be the construnction pool if the ship is replaced?
Replacement Unit Location = Constuction pool

If so, could that be expressed clearer by saying "new location" or "after replacement" or something like that?

I cleaned that up after I posted the screen shot. What the two headings say now are:

Current location is ...

and

Arrives in ...

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ORIGINAL: composer99

This sort of thing can also happen when you overrun face-down naval units.

The example shown seems a bit unusual, though: normally you only get to pick which country gets a naval unit when you are the conquering side.

The Polish destroyer flotilla would automatically be a CW unit, since CW aligns Poland, upon the conquest of Poland, unless it is captured by Germany or sunk.

Unless I am wrong (don't have access to rules or time to look them up online).

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ORIGINAL: macgregor

I noticed this replacement unit for the Gneisenau, which I imagine assumes the Germans replace the 11" guns with 15-inchers, plus upgrades to the AA guns(re-adjusting the radar for slow moving biplanes) but I could not find anything about this kind of naval upgrade in the rules. Is this something that comes with one of the new addons? Naturally I think it's a great idea. I'm just not aware of it.