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Question about mission - 5/20/2010 2:23:08 AM   
Tatoune

 

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Status: offline 		I wonder what is the mission order for hitting ships in ports or at anchors. When I set port strike, I only get port damage but no ship damage and i'm pretty sure there are ships in there. And when I select Naval Attack, I can't choose a target as port.

Current DL 9/10...

What should I do to hit those ships?

BTW, I've got so much fun with this game

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RE: Question about mission - 5/20/2010 2:44:41 AM   
jetjockey


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Status: offline 		What altitude are your bombers at? Even a ship at anchor is hard to hit from 23K.

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RE: Question about mission - 5/20/2010 2:52:02 AM   
Tatoune

 

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Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 11, 42
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Morning Air attack on Tulagi , at 114,137

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
SBD-3 Dauntless x 27
TBF-1 Avenger x 14


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 18000 feet
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
12 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
6 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 2000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
8 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 4000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Buna , at 99,129

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
Beaufort V x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 10


Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort V: 1 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 damaged



Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Beaufort V bombing from 7000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x P-39D Airacobra bombing from 100 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Buna , at 99,129

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 19


Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)



Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P-39D Airacobra bombing from 100 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
17 x P-39D Airacobra bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 15th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking Sasebo 5th SNLF ...
Also attacking 10th Special Base Force ...


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RE: Question about mission - 5/20/2010 3:21:37 AM   
jetjockey


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Status: offline 		OK! Altitudes looks good. Numbers look good. My only guess is Fog of War. In Aug '42 your bombers may not have been able to actually hit anything (5/1,2,1), but they would have at least attacked; no attacks tells me no one was home. Me thinks rece-pilot tell big fib. A DL of 9/10 is pretty good; what does your cursor tell you when placed over the port's anchor?

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RE: Question about mission - 5/20/2010 3:47:33 AM   
Tatoune

 

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Status: offline 		the cursor tells me that there is no ships, but coastwatcher tells me for couple of turns there is 3 or 4 ships at the port.

And if I cant rely on cause of FOW,... coastwatcher should be considered useless? even with DL 9/10?

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RE: Question about mission - 5/20/2010 3:59:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		It depends upon whether you are trying to hit Task Forces in port or ships that have been disbanded in the port.

In order to hit TFs in a port, your squadrons need to be set for Naval Attack. There is no guarantee that the squadrons will attack the TFs that you want them to attack, as Naval Attack targeting is subject to several modifiers. I have noticed, however, that TFs in port seem to be chosen more often that TFs at sea (easier to hit them, I guess).

In order to hit ships disbanded in port, your squadrons need to be set for port attack. There is a chance that ships in port will be targeted in a port attack, but no guarantee. It's a pretty good chance, and the more ships in port it seems the greater the chance that any bomber will target one.

You can set your squadrons to Naval Attack with Port Attack as the secondary mission. That would give you at chance at ships in either mode.


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RE: Question about mission - 5/20/2010 4:11:50 AM   
Tatoune

 

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Status: offline 		Wow, thanks

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RE: Question about mission - 5/20/2010 4:18:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		FOW is a tricky thing. When playing against the AI, if something interesting happens, I will sometimes switch sides just to see what the other "guy" is seeing. I have on several occasions seen reports of air attacks on TFs that did not really exist! I do not trust coastwatchers for targeting information, but they will draw the attention of a rece-flight or nav-search mission; as a general rule, I do not trust any "sighting" that does not generate a map symbol. Run your own recon. As a JFB I will split a Kate squadron, using one or more of it's components to run recon missions of the target hex and any other hex that interests me; Jakes work as well.

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RE: Question about mission - 5/20/2010 1:04:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pretty sure you glide bombed if you altitude was 21K. Less accurate if you did have this range, even with DB's. 11-15K for sure will DB.

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RE: Question about mission - 5/20/2010 5:04:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Weather in hex, light rain" "Weather in hex, severe storms"

Nuff said.

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