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RE: For god's sake Winston, quit sending me Matilda tanks. - 6/4/2010 7:21:12 AM   
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RE: For god's sake Winston, quit sending me Matilda tanks. - 6/4/2010 7:58:25 AM   
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Now I am confused. From what I am reading at the Australian War memorial the lee/grants were replaced by matidas and no lee/grants saw action but were used for training. That may explain all of the matildas in my pool. But in the game, the Australian units take matilidas early in the war and then upgrade to lee/grants. Do they switch back to matildas. I had the tank replacement bug in my game. Perhaps that was a factor.



They do not switch back, when you use tracker you can see the device upgrade paths and the Matildas upgrade to the Grants. The replacement bug for devices we suffered from has something to do with it though as we long didn´t get any tanks into the units at all. If you have got enough Grants in the pool then it doesn´t matter if you still get Matildas also. If you haven´t enough Grants it would have been an advantage to upgrade one Matilda unit after another but that wasn´t possible with the bug as they also didn´t take replacements.

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RE: For god's sake Winston, quit sending me Matilda tanks. - 6/4/2010 8:02:55 AM   
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How do you get the tank regiments to upgrade? Just leave at rest and replacements 'Y' in a nice big place like Brisbane or Syndey with lots of supplies for a few weeks and watch their establishment?



just have them in range of an appropriate HQ and enough supplies around. No need to have them on rest, rest is only needed when you do an TOE upgrade but upgrading single devices don´t need rest.

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RE: For god's sake Winston, quit sending me Matilda tanks. - 6/4/2010 11:32:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK, so I guess my question is, how do I get a unit to upgrade to matildas so that I can turn off replacements and then keep them? They show up at the same time as the grants, so all I get is a bunch of units with a few grants and no matildas. I don't see the point of including them.

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RE: For god's sake Winston, quit sending me Matilda tanks. - 6/5/2010 12:23:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		The game appears to be missing 3 Australian Tank Battalions which were solely armed with the Matilda II, unless they are renamed (in game)from another unit which is harder to search for.

Having these would provide a outlet for the Matilda II reinforcements.

The other way would be to have PDU for LCU devices to allow you to keep the inferior AFV. Of course, you could always say the Australian Army were silly and ship the Grants into action.


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RE: For god's sake Winston, quit sending me Matilda tanks. - 6/5/2010 1:48:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is a compromise Aus Army Tank Bns aned Ard Regts still keep me awake at night - its a compromise between relative effectiveness at the right points of the war.

Re matilda specifically remember patch 2 had a bug that stopped units taking on replacements as a result pretty much all units for games started in this phase (incl both my own PBEM's) end up with 10 - 12 Matildas when they should have 40 - 50 when the Grants start arriving and they therefore upgrade when you dont really want them to.

This was fixed in patch 3 but those of us caught by it are where we are and you need to wait for enough Grants to arrive.

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RE: For god's sake Winston, quit sending me Matilda tanks. - 6/5/2010 4:14:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		And you will have enough grants by July or August of 42-and then plenty from then on. Plus you will get matildas in the convoys well into 1943. I got about three hundred in my pool as of 11/42. I store them in that same big locker that I keep my wirraways in...

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RE: For god's sake Winston, quit sending me Matilda tanks. - 6/5/2010 4:34:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		At some point 2 Cavalry Brigade changes into 3 Army Tank Brigade.

I dont know what TOE it gets but it should be for a Tank Bde equipped with Matilda.

Those Wirra's should be guarding Melbourne & Adelaide from the invaders and training up pilots to fill out the frontline squadrons. there should be some OTU & FTS around Mildura & Wagga Wagga to equip as well.


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RE: For god's sake Winston, quit sending me Matilda tanks. - 6/5/2010 7:26:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Redd

OK, so I guess my question is, how do I get a unit to upgrade to matildas so that I can turn off replacements and then keep them? They show up at the same time as the grants, so all I get is a bunch of units with a few grants and no matildas. I don't see the point of uncluding them.


It takes a bit of organization (not too much though). Just let your units upgrade one or two at a time. The first unit will take Grants, emptying those pools. Then allow replacements for the next units, they shouldn't find enough Grants in the pools to upgrade to them and will take Matildas. Some small problems may still occur, but this is probably the best way as long as you haven't got the Grants to fill out all units.

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RE: For god's sake Winston, quit sending me Matilda tanks. - 6/5/2010 7:42:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Smeulders ! Too late for this game, but I'll know better next time. Only against the AI anyway.

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RE: For god's sake Winston, quit sending me Matilda tanks. - 6/5/2010 8:06:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Redd

OK, so I guess my question is, how do I get a unit to upgrade to matildas so that I can turn off replacements and then keep them? They show up at the same time as the grants, so all I get is a bunch of units with a few grants and no matildas. I don't see the point of uncluding them.



you can´t. If there are enough Grants in the pool, the game will "bypass" the Matilda.

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