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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 5:03:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		USA is winner of the group and is advancing, we were hinging for that one goal for the whole 90 minutes and then it finally came.
Wooooooooooo!

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 5:30:52 PM   
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USA is winner of the group and is advancing, we were hinging for that one goal for the whole 90 minutes and then it finally came.
Wooooooooooo!


The question ofc is if winning this group is better than finishing second depending on the outcome in the Germany group, but I have to say I really enjoyed to see the US advance (well as long as it was not on behalf of England ).

Anyway congratulations USA!

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 5:37:27 PM   
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So, now it just depends on what happens tomorrow in Group D. I think Germany will beat Ghana, but this year's World cup is full of surprises so will see. All the major football powerhouses are epically failing this year.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 5:39:14 PM   
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(well as long as it was not on behalf of England ).


Cheeky mare . I was kind of hopeing that england would lose so the damn hysteria over here would end. Would starting a thread about hating vuvuzelas be OT .. What is it with these things and the people who blow them , they don't get louder when a goals scored ? or the tempo picks up ? they make no sense to me whatsoever .

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 5:56:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		At least we're through (Phew !! ) As usual we made it hard for ourselves but I suppose that's the English way. Well done the US on winning the group. Looked as though you could have 5 or 6 against Algeria and Dempsey's goal shoul'd've stood.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 6:24:44 PM   
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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 6:26:40 PM   
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At least we're through (Phew !! ) As usual we made it hard for ourselves but I suppose that's the English way. Well done the US on winning the group. Looked as though you could have 5 or 6 against Algeria and Dempsey's goal shoul'd've stood.


Landon Donovan's last goal may have been the only that counted, but anyone who looks back at the match can't deny that it was slaughter. USA had so many shots on-target that it was only matter of time before it eventually went in. I do have to give props to the Algerian goal keeper.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 6:37:56 PM   
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USA is winner of the group and is advancing, we were hinging for that one goal for the whole 90 minutes and then it finally came.
Wooooooooooo!


The question ofc is if winning this group is better than finishing second depending on the outcome in the Germany group, but I have to say I really enjoyed to see the US advance (well as long as it was not on behalf of England ).

Anyway congratulations USA!

Terje
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Terje - I take it you meant as long it was not at the expense of England? If so - thanks for your support


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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 6:58:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, the English hopefully won't advance out of the second round, considering how much of a fluke it was that they advanced into it. Sorry, but them's the beans...

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 7:46:46 PM   
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Well, the English hopefully won't advance out of the second round, considering how much of a fluke it was that they advanced into it. Sorry, but them's the beans...

Warspite1

How ridiculous and spectacularly uninformed was that comment??

We did not play at all well against Algeria (quite the reverse in fact) but they were no closer to scoring than we were and so a point a piece was fair; we were okay against the US and did not win only thanks to a flukey goal (kudos to the Americans for playing so well though). We beat - and out played - Slovenia and so qualified for the last 16 unbeaten with five points.

The fact that we in no way played like a side that is likely to win the World Cup does NOT mean it was a fluke we got through the group - thats just complete nonsense. Please tell me in what way we were lucky.......

I think the fact you said "hopefully" shows that your pathetic comment was more to do with personal view rather than an objective view of three football games.

Maybe we wont make it past the last 16 - but that in no way makes your summary of Group C in anyway shape or form an accurate one. And the FLUKEY bit was?????

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 8:11:13 PM   
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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 9:11:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		England don't deserve to be in the last 16 any more or less than the other teams who make it through, including the USA who got the same points tally.  We've been terrible but still managed to achieve qualification through their own efforts.  We're not going to get much further, but that's par for the course as England goes. 


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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 9:22:26 PM   
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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 9:34:00 PM   
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Well, the Italians shouldn't have been in the World Cup AT ALL. It's not the Diving World Cup, after all...

Warspite1

Any other nation you want to insult while treating us to your footballing wisdom?

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 9:39:37 PM   
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Of course I can hardly get my hopes up, but since we are there, and I am as patriotic as the next bloke, I have to add a plug for the Kiwis against Slovakia tonight. In our previous effort (at the world cup) the 'being there' was the victory. This team is a little better than that - or maybe a bit more professional. However, I can't help feeling that the best we can hope for is to score a goal and not get "Australia'd"

Warspite1

Well we need one real shock result from the first round of matches - lets hope the All Whites provide it. Unfortunately Slovakia are one half of a useful footballing nation; four major finals as Czechoslovakia - two World Cup finals and two European Championship finals (Champions in 1976).

This side beat Russia in the play-offs and are a useful team, but fingers crossed - 1-0 to the All Whites, Plymouth's Rory Fallon scores with 10 minutes to go and New Zealand hold on for a famous victory.........

Warspite1

Okay - not quite as planned but a great result for the All Whites nonetheless. Now a point against Italy and a win against Paraguay and the last 16 here we come.....simples

Warspite1

Oh yes - one to go New Zealand....Come on you All Whites, you can do it

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Good luck to the Kiwis for tomorrow afternoon - whatever happens, you've done your country proud.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 9:42:53 PM   
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Well, the Italians shouldn't have been in the World Cup AT ALL. It's not the Diving World Cup, after all...

Warspite1

Any other nation you want to insult while treating us to your footballing wisdom?


Touchy... Touchy...



The French, perhaps?

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 9:49:57 PM   
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Well, the Italians shouldn't have been in the World Cup AT ALL. It's not the Diving World Cup, after all...

Warspite1

Any other nation you want to insult while treating us to your footballing wisdom?


Touchy... Touchy...



The French, perhaps?


The French players / coach / federation / fans kill each other these days so they don't need any help. Simply do as me, throw popcorn from the cheap seats and enjoy the show...

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 10:04:51 PM   
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Tulius, isn't that what everybody here does? Sit in the cheap seats and go on and on and on about things SHOULD be done? Every national team has one real manager and thousands of managers who know much better than him...

Either way, the only team I can claim to like in the World Cup is the United States. Not because they're particularly skilled, but because neither players nor fans have any egos. Once football takes better hold in America, they'll go the same way as all the others, but for now, they're enjoyable.

England, Franche, Italy, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Argentina, Brazil... They're all overpaid, spoiled brats who spend more time appearing in commercials and tabloids than playing. Line 'em all up against the wall.

And Warspite1? Take a pill.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 10:08:19 PM   
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USA is winner of the group and is advancing, we were hinging for that one goal for the whole 90 minutes and then it finally came.
Wooooooooooo!


Reminded me a lot of the 1980 Olympics' Miracle on Ice.

It's tough to win when you have to score two goals for every one that counts, but they got it done at the end. An exhausting ordeal, but nice.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 10:09:55 PM   
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Either way, the only team I can claim to like in the World Cup is the United States. Not because they're particularly skilled, but because neither players nor fans have any egos. Once football takes better hold in America, they'll go the same way as all the others, but for now, they're enjoyable.


You are quite correct on this one. At least I see it this way too

Bullwinkle, this was not a miracle. The Americans DESERVED to be on the next round... I doubt the Ghanese will defeat them, so you should make it to the next round again. And that won't be a miracle either.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 10:12:41 PM   
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You know it's good cursing when some readers can't figure out what the stars stand for.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 10:59:58 PM   
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Terje - I take it you meant as long it was not at the expense of England? If so - thanks for your support



My bad, that was ofc what I ment
Gonna be a thriller against Germany.
And support...Well I ALWAYS cheer for England, even against Norway

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 11:30:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well England gets the bad draw against Germany. Not that Ghana is a pass, but better them than the Germans who are capable of great things. Doesn't matter, the South American teams have all been great. Just a question of which one wins it all.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/23/2010 11:33:59 PM   
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Since I know nothing about soccer, I have no clue about the relative strengths of the 16 teams remaining in the tournament.  Anybody care to rank those 16 in order from one to sixteen?  Also, which of the teams have a legit shot at winning and which have essentially no shot?

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/24/2010 12:16:10 AM   
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Well, the Italians shouldn't have been in the World Cup AT ALL. It's not the Diving World Cup, after all...


If so, neither the N. Koreans should be in the World Cup AT ALL. It is not the Torpedoing World Cup, after all...

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/24/2010 12:19:56 AM   
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England, Franche, Italy, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Argentina, Brazil... They're all overpaid, spoiled brats who spend more time appearing in commercials and tabloids than playing.


...And which, amazingly enough, ocasionally win a World Cup

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Line 'em all up against the wall.


As a way of evening the field? But then we would ask the same if some big American Football World Cup gets organized.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/24/2010 12:47:38 AM   
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England, Franche, Italy, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Argentina, Brazil... They're all overpaid, spoiled brats who spend more time appearing in commercials and tabloids than playing. Line 'em all up against the wall.



Interesting perspective on pay-parity with the Kiwi side, that I noted in our local news. The lead striker for Paraguay gets paid 35 times more than the kiwi side (I am not sure I agree with this stat - surely Ryan Nelson gets reasonable wedge with Blackburn???)! The kiwi coach is on US$25K per annum! Gads we're a tinpot country.

However, we are still in with a chance, and it will be another late night for me (game shown at 2am local time).



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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/24/2010 1:00:58 AM   
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(well as long as it was not on behalf of England ).


Cheeky mare . I was kind of hopeing that england would lose so the damn hysteria over here would end. Would starting a thread about hating vuvuzelas be OT .. What is it with these things and the people who blow them , they don't get louder when a goals scored ? or the tempo picks up ? they make no sense to me whatsoever .


aren't they meant to give the fans practice doing breathalizer tests after the match? we need those over here at the Oakland Raider games...



PS - stay classy, Algeria...b*tch slapping a reporter DOES NOT endear you to anyone outside of certain cultural regions...
what did she say to deserve that? "Better luck next time."?

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/24/2010 1:30:36 AM   
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Since I know nothing about soccer, I have no clue about the relative strengths of the 16 teams remaining in the tournament.  Anybody care to rank those 16 in order from one to sixteen?  Also, which of the teams have a legit shot at winning and which have essentially no shot?


Canoerebel, it's easy to remember. The big powers are Europeans & South Americans. In fact, it's all about 4 teams. 2 Europeans and 2 South Americans: Italy, Germany, Brazil and Argentina. These are the big ones.

Then you have the wannabes (they have world-class players): England, Holland, Spain.

And basically that's it. The other teams could hardly win the WC

EDITED: this is a "historical" approach. The facts may tell you that the Italian squad is rather weak this time. The Germans were having very bad times but they came back in force again (apparently). The Brazilians, on paper they do NOT have the best players this time but it's Brazil... and and and... England and Spain have some world-class players and Holland usually implodes... so it all depends

Oh, and the French, but as I have said scatological p*** should be avoided here...

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/24/2010 1:45:14 AM   
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Either way, the only team I can claim to like in the World Cup is the United States. Not because they're particularly skilled, but because neither players nor fans have any egos. Once football takes better hold in America, they'll go the same way as all the others, but for now, they're enjoyable.



I'd have to concur with that. If America had been eliminated today, there would have been some disappointment among the few hard-core football fans here, but most Americans would have just shrugged, as they find the sport baffling. In the office where I work there was virtually no positive reaction and a few yawns when I informed them of the win. However, start talking up the upcoming NFL season two months away....then they get excited. Frankly, the English announcer at the match sounded more excited for our win then most fellow Americans I speak too.

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