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RE: YETIMO - 7/18/2010 6:23:47 PM   
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Hi boys, I'm back.


Ah, splendid! And how was the visit to the Admiralty? How did you find the First Sea Lord? In my experience, it is best to try his office about midday. He reads cables while he eats, except on Wednesday when he luncheons at the Savoy for their kidney pie early bird special.

Below follows a list of new orders issued while (whilst) you were away: (Note: As almost everyone reads top to bottom except for vertical dyslexics, it follows that a list "below" would "follow" the sentence above but everyone seems to say things like that in business correspondence so I just did the same thing)

1) Illustrious refueled and started round toward the horn in the direction of Melbourne. I was nervous about Jap carriers showing up. In any event, it didn't seem prudent to send her into battle with so few escorts.

2) Started some tanker groups back toward Capetown.

3) Flew in a coy of Paras to Broome.

4) Sent 4 A-24's to Broome to bag a few ships. The town may fall and we will lose the A-24's, but I sent only 4 pilots.

5) Started two AK groups toward Townsville from Darwin.

6) Ambon looking a bit iffy so I moved the Dutch B-25's to Merauke and ordered a few aviation engineers there by PBY. They cant fly combat missions from a level one airfield but they will be safe for a while.

7) Got the planes out of Denpasar which is looking iffy too.

8) Moved some Dutch seaplanes to one of the Dutch island in the Aru Sea and sent an AVD there.

9) Moved 3 squadrons of Hurris to Imphal to try to ambush the small Jap group that has been sweeping there.

10) Withdrew 2 recon Hurris in India that were past due.

11) Moved one of the RAAF Brewster squadrons to Sydney to convert to Kittyhawks and backfilled with two understrength P-40E squadrons. I also started the AVG squadron back toward Perth by rail. We need some more aviation support at Perth. I am shipping stuff out of SF and LA as soon as it arrives and transport is sufficient.

We have a ship somewhere that needs to be withdrawn and one of the Hurri's in Impahl has to go in a few days.

Most sincerely sincere;


Fleet Admiral Mandrake

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RE: YETIMO - 7/19/2010 1:24:37 AM   
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RE: Excuse me sir - 7/19/2010 4:14:32 AM   
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Anyway. I am literally standing out there is chest deep water and this 19-20 year old lifeguard comes up out with his rescue float and fins and says, "Excuse me sir, we really don't want you out past chest deep without fins"

I hardly knew what to say. For Christ's sake! How old do I look? So I answer, "Isn't that why they call it swimming.'

"Even so, sir, my boss told me to tell you not to go out past chest deep."



That's when you scream at the little twit, "Where were you at the Wedge during August of '69? 15 foot Monsters drilling ho-dads headfirst into the jetty, and I WAS THE GUY WITHOUT FINS WHO NAILED THE BREAK, AND THEN RIPPED IT FOR OVER 200 YARDS NORTH ON A LEFT CUT BEFORE THE WAVE RAN OUT OF JUICE! Dewey Weber and Hobie both bowed down and kissed my feet after that ride, Sonnyboy!

Incidentally, you do bear an uncanny resemblance to someone you're looking at right now: Tell me your grandmama's name; perhaps I "knew" her before fins became mandatory, and you Orange County Nanny State Whussies decided you needed to protect me from myself?

Ah, the Summer of 69; Gawd it was good----And screw the child support!

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RE: YETIMO - 7/19/2010 5:00:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here is what Moondawgie is talking about. Given a certain swell direction, big waves at "The Wedge" (the North side of the Newport Beach Harbor jetty)will bounce off the end of the jetty and then join the parent wave in a massive wave front that just rises up seemingly out of nowhere in shallow water about 50-70 yds from the shore. Sometimes it is REALLY dangerous and nobody would be stupid enough to go out there just to take a leak.

http://images.onset.freedom.com/orange/gallery/l2w9w4-l2w9l8img5007.jpg

And it is usually a Left too.

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RE: YETIMO - 7/19/2010 5:11:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hehe. Poor bastard. Fins, no fins. Leak, no leak. He is going to get worked.


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RE: YETIMO - 7/19/2010 12:07:19 PM   
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Th RN light forces score another coup:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Broome at 62,127, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Ise, Shell hits 4
CA Mikuma
CA Kumano, Shell hits 1
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 1
DD Maikaze
DD Nowaki
DD Arashi
DD Hagikaze
DD Asashio

Allied Ships
CL Danae
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Encounter
DD Isis, Shell hits 1
DD Jupiter




Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 60% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 7,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 7,000 yards
Stephens, W.D. crosses the 'T'
CL Mauritius engages BB Ise at 7,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages BB Mutsu at 7,000 yards
CA Kumano engages CL Mauritius at 7,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages DD Isis at 7,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Arashi at 7,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages DD Jupiter at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Mauritius at 4,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Mauritius at 4,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages DD Nowaki at 4,000 yards
DD Arashi engages DD Isis at 4,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages CL Mauritius at 4,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages DD Asashio at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Mauritius at 3,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Danae at 3,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CA Kumano at 3,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages DD Isis at 3,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Arashi at 3,000 yards
DD Arashi engages DD Jupiter at 3,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Nowaki at 3,000 yards
DD Maikaze engages DD Isis at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
BB Ise engages CL Mauritius at 6,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Mauritius at 6,000 yards
CA Kumano engages CL Mauritius at 6,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Maikaze at 6,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages CL Mauritius at 6,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Nowaki at 6,000 yards
DD Maikaze engages DD Isis at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
BB Ise engages CL Mauritius at 8,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Mauritius at 8,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages DD Maikaze at 8,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CL Mauritius at 8,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
DD Hagikaze engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Nowaki at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Mauritius at 11,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Mauritius at 11,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages DD Nowaki at 11,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CA Mikuma at 11,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Encounter at 11,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Hagikaze at 11,000 yards
DD Arashi engages DD Isis at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Mauritius at 12,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Mauritius at 12,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages DD Jupiter at 12,000 yards
DD Arashi engages DD Isis at 12,000 yards
DD Hagikaze engages DD Encounter at 12,000 yards
DD Arashi engages DD Encounter at 12,000 yards
Task forces break off...





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RE: YETIMO - 7/19/2010 5:50:35 PM   
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7th April

Th RN light forces score another coup:


Yes, yes! Splendid show! The general consensus over here is your light forces did better than our light forces. The bullies on Mutsu deserve everything they got. Surprisingly, there was no attack to capture New and Improved Broome as of yet, either.

I'm afraid; however, the brave lads aboard Mauritius are in for it. She is lit up like a Roman candle in the little harbour at Port Headland and there are Jap carriers about 200 miles away. Perhaps she will attract the Jap bombers and her comrades can get safely away.

Mutsu will probably make a run for Soerabaja. Take command of all the USN subs up near Denpasar and try to set up an ambush. I forgot to move them to optimal positions.

The refueling group is headed for Carnovan.


Over and out;

Fleet Admiral Mandrake

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RE: YETIMO - 7/19/2010 6:30:25 PM   
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Here is what Moondawgie is talking about. Given a certain swell direction, big waves at "The Wedge" (the North side of the Newport Beach Harbor jetty)will bounce off the end of the jetty and then join the parent wave in a massive wave front that just rises up seemingly out of nowhere in shallow water about 50-70 yds from the shore. Sometimes it is REALLY dangerous and nobody would be stupid enough to go out there just to take a leak.

http://images.onset.freedom.com/orange/gallery/l2w9w4-l2w9l8img5007.jpg

And it is usually a Left too.

Well, Raise My Taxes, Cap; I mistooken ya from somewhere East of Lake Elsinore. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

I'm just on the other end of Dana Point in Capo Beach. Live right above hole-in-the-fence, straight up and eight to the right of Olamende's. Hobie Jr. lives three doors down. Come visit some time if ya don't mind hanging with a bunch of decrepit relics. Promise we won't push you into roller sets just so's you can pee.

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RE: YETIMO - 7/19/2010 8:54:41 PM   
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I mistooken ya from somewhere East of Lake Elsinore. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.



A 909'er. I was mistooken for a 909'er?

Oh, say it ain't so.

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RE: YETIMO - 7/19/2010 9:07:19 PM   
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A 909'er. I was mistooken for a 909'er?

Oh, say it ain't so.

Oh, Oh, Oh. No. It ain't so Bro. Am just old, stupid, and unable to read maps. Probably from taking too many headers at old man's.

Besides, we take the 74.

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RE: YETIMO - 7/19/2010 9:34:10 PM   
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A 909'er. I was mistooken for a 909'er?

Oh, say it ain't so.

Oh, Oh, Oh. No. It ain't so Bro. Am just old, stupid, and unable to read maps. Probably from taking too many headers at old man's.

Besides, we take the 74.


That would make you an honorary 909'er

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The sad tale..... - 7/19/2010 9:43:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well...it almost worked. My recon pilots reported BB's at New Edinburgh, but they had not participated in the bombardment, so I assumed it was just the usual frenetic misidentification of coastal minesweepers.

The USN/RAN cruiser force is slowed by a sub, arrives just at dawn to find Nagato returning to port after a night's bombardment. Nagato, low on ammo, turns tail with two burning DD's. So far, so good.

Next up is a fresh Fuso. This ends badly for the USN/RAN. Ultimately, the Jap surface force retreats but the USN force is now too damaged to reached the transports. Now follows a fusilade of air attacks from Nells and Bettys from New Ullapool and a surprise showing of the Jap carriers which have evidenlty steamed in from the W/NW.

Some 25-30 Jap planes are lost but the carnage is almost complete. Only one USN DD remains and can likley reach Suva. One Jap DD is confirmed lost with several damaged, but the landing TF's are unmolested.

FAIL.








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RE: The sad tale..... - 7/19/2010 9:54:51 PM   
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New Scotland: A very curious thing has happened. Jap strength at New Edinburgh is down to 5K troops from 14K reported the day before. Still, there are no intact units ashore. Even more curiouser is the fact that there are no Jap losses during debarkation despite some quite effective shore battery fire.

This suggests they may be aborting the landing.

If so it suggests several possibilities:

1) It was a dummy invasion to draw resources from New Perth. (Bloody elaborate ruse if this is true)

2) They got ashore and felt Allied resistance was too great.

3) They were spooked by the Allied naval acitivity.

4) The landing was going very badly with losses due to shore battery fire and disorganization.

In any event, New Perth airfield is now level 2 and there are 20 SBD's in operation. I have chopped the range down so they don't get sliced up by Jap carrier CAP. Perhaps they will hit the landing vesels with troops aboard or crippled surface combatants.

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RE: The sad tale..... - 7/19/2010 10:05:14 PM   
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Adm. Kimmel: <head in hands> Madre de Dios! Tell Capt Scanland he is relieved of his command.

Aide: He was believed lost when Louisville went down, sir.

Adm. Kimmel: Well, find me somebody else to blame, damnit!

Aide: Sir?

Adm. Kimmel: Well, for instance, how many Jap ships have we sunk from our mining operations on New Scotland?

Aide: None, to my knowledge, sir. Some type of fusing problem, it seems.

Adm. Kimmel: There you have it! Find me the SOB who sold us those mines..............

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RE: YETIMO - 7/19/2010 10:16:45 PM   
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A 909'er. I was mistooken for a 909'er?

Oh, say it ain't so.

Oh, Oh, Oh. No. It ain't so Bro. Am just old, stupid, and unable to read maps. Probably from taking too many headers at old man's.

Besides, we take the 74.


That would make you an honorary 909'er



Apparently Californians do speak a foreign language......

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RE: YETIMO - 7/20/2010 1:08:52 AM   
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That would make you an honorary 909'er



Apparently Californians do speak a foreign language......


909 is an area code for the "Inland Empire". It is "inland" but it is no "empire".


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New Scotland - 7/20/2010 1:53:50 AM   
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A big Jap attack to break out toward the airfield is expected soon. Help is on the way from New Perth but, in the interim, all personnel have been pressed into the infantry role, even the pilots of grounded aircraft. There is a whistle and then a roar as 200 Japanese infantrymen charge into the cleared ground near the airport perimeter. the American fire is heavy but the enemy does not falter. They close within 50 yds. They will be on the American position in seconds, it seems. Just then....wait...that sounds kind of cliched doesn't it...oh what the Hell do I care...anyway, the point is it looks bad but right when it appears all is over, a young man in his pilot's overalls, sporting a well trimmed beard (against regulations) roars to a stop in a jeep right next to a .50 caliber machine gun sitting atop a tall tripod for AA use. The postion is terribly exposed, but he clambers onto the hood and depresses the gun at the approaching human wave. The effect is nearly instantaneous, both on the enemy and on the morale of his comrades. The Japanese line falters. The ammo belt flaps about widely. "FEED ME", he yells though a wide grin. Half a dozen men leave their protected positions to man the belt.

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New Scotland - 7/20/2010 2:23:45 AM   
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It has been a wild day in the air and on the ground over and on New Scotland.

In the morning, Zeroes and P-40's spar near New Ullapool, trading losses one for one.

SBD's go after shipping off New Edinburgh but have no escort and lose 4 aircraft to LRCAP from the carriers?

Another group of 6 SBD's find Nagato wihtout CAP near New Ullapool and drop 2 bombs on her and one on Chikuma. Chikuma is seen burning.

Sallys come in over New Perth without escorts and are chewed up by the P-39's.

In the afternoon, the SBD's and some A-26's are up again over New Edinburgh, hitting one AK.

New Perth is bombarded by two crusiers but suffers no hits.

B-17's from Fiji do some damage to the Japs ashore at New Edinburgh.


And remember what I said about the Japs evacuating? Forget that. More came ashore today, all 7 of the Naval Guard units are now mostly ashore as are portions of 2 Regts. of IJA 14th Div. The shore battery fire is really getting heavy now as the effect of the previous Jap naval bombardment diminishes. Many Jap transports are hit (all AKs, no APs).

The Japs throw in a big deliberate attack, but lose badly, suffering 4:1 casulaties after the timely arrival of the Most Interesting Man Alive...............and about 100 Stuarts and a Regt of US Marines.


What now? Well, the Japs, being the cagey bastards that they are, are certain to try to do harm to New Perth now that the airfield can support bombers. I expect a naval bombardment (if they can refuel and rearm undamaged ships), a fighter sweep and perhaps even a carrier raid. This will take the pressure off New Edinburgh somewhat. They Japs can't do everything at the same time.

I hope at least Kinugasa and Chikuma and Nagato need to go back to the shop but I am not holding my breath.

I will contemplate a counterattack at New Edinburgh. Not sure yet.

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RE: YETIMO - 7/20/2010 3:10:43 AM   
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A 909'er. I was mistooken for a 909'er?

Oh, say it ain't so.

Oh, Oh, Oh. No. It ain't so Bro. Am just old, stupid, and unable to read maps. Probably from taking too many headers at old man's.

Besides, we take the 74.


That would make you an honorary 909'er



Apparently Californians do speak a foreign language......


Hey, hey, hey!!! Enough with the sweeping generalizations already. Thats Orange County speak.

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RE: New Scotland - 7/20/2010 8:13:40 AM   
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They Japs can't do everything at the same time.


Yes they can. At least for now. We seem to have dented a few BBs and CAs so maybe that will rein them in a little.

Meanwhile Ambon and Broome both fall and Mauritius succumbs. Not a good day in the SEAC/ABDA area.

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RE: New Scotland - 7/20/2010 2:37:31 PM   
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They Japs can't do everything at the same time.


Yes they can. At least for now. We seem to have dented a few BBs and CAs so maybe that will rein them in a little.

Meanwhile Ambon and Broome both fall and Mauritius succumbs. Not a good day in the SEAC/ABDA area.


Sadly, this is true, but think of all the ammo we are making them use.


The Japs got 190 free points last turn. More to come.

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RE: New Scotland - 7/20/2010 2:58:18 PM   
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Ambon hurt. I really liked Australian 1st Avian Brigade. They may; however, have achieved their purpose which was to slow the Jap advance. It took them many weeks (perhaps even a month) to capture Ambon. At least the remainder of the RN force at Broome has apparently escaped. I just noted the Aussie para coy at Broome was destroyed. That was my bad for sending them there when you were called away to the Admiralty.

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Floundered.... - 7/20/2010 3:05:45 PM   
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Aide: Sir, we just received some bad news. It seems California foundered while under tow to San Francisco.

Adm. Kimmel: I think you mean "floundered".

Aide: Sir, isn't "flounder" the fish?

Adm. Kimmel: That is where they get the word. She is swimming with the fishes. She floundered. I am thinking of having someone from the local university come and speak about entomology.

Aide: The study of insects, sir?

Adm. Kimmel: No, no, no, the study of the origin of words. see, that is what I mean.......


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RE: New Scotland - 7/20/2010 3:08:15 PM   
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think of all the ammo we are making them use


I think that was the argument used in the 14-18 contretemps.

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RE: New Scotland - 7/20/2010 3:38:36 PM   
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think of all the ammo we are making them use


I think that was the argument used in the 14-18 contretemps.


<goes to look up "contretemps">

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RE: New Scotland - 7/20/2010 3:56:32 PM   
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Ground combat at La Foa (114,159)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28256 troops, 314 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1022

Defending force 22545 troops, 502 guns, 510 vehicles, Assault Value = 566

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 329

Allied adjusted defense: 1864

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2878 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 69 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 136 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
220 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

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RE: New Scotland - 7/20/2010 5:51:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		i got curious about the bru-ha-ha in New Scotland and went searching for when all this started. it seems the first landing by the LYB's was Feb 6th, or there abouts. keeping the LYB's bottled up for two months seems quite the feat, but begs the question - how long does the allied high command plan to fight this meat grinder? from where i sit (squarely in the peanut gallery) it would seem that continued resistance is the proper strategic choice. comments from the high command?

ps - i've heard that the To Do lists for that brave chap manning the 50 cal have won pulitzers...

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RE: New Scotland - 7/20/2010 6:16:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sprior

This might cheer you up:



Yes, speaking of the 14-18 contretemps, that was Marne-like.

Based on that attack failure by the LYB's, I have ordered one arty Bn., 29th NZ Bn. and a Marine Raider Bn. back to New Edinburgh to stiffen defences there.


Jap ground strength New Scotland:


New Edinburgh: 24,000 combat troops (7 full Naval Guard units, one SNLF unit and 2 Regts. of 14th Inf. Div.

Gryme's New Dyke Line: 42,000 LYB's

Jap Air Strength: 27 fighters, 36 bombers at New Ullapool


New Perth was plastered by no less than 3 naval bombardments with 32 aircraft destoyed on the ground....uggh.

The Jap carriers are standing off near Norfolk Is. to block any reinforcments from the South.

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RE: New Scotland - 7/20/2010 6:36:22 PM   
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i got curious about the bru-ha-ha in New Scotland and went searching for when all this started. it seems the first landing by the LYB's was Feb 6th, or there abouts. keeping the LYB's bottled up for two months seems quite the feat, but begs the question - how long does the allied high command plan to fight this meat grinder? from where i sit (squarely in the peanut gallery) it would seem that continued resistance is the proper strategic choice. comments from the high command?

ps - i've heard that the To Do lists for that brave chap manning the 50 cal have won pulitzers...


Lord Admiral Sprior has been very patient with the hemorrhage of naval assets, including one loaner from the RAN, but any surface move now is suicidal with the carriers on station. I really don't have a clear answer to the Jap naval bombardments short of barrel wear on their guns, mines and a lucky sub attack. The USN carriers are not battle ready due to losses to their air groups.

We have run out of USAAF replacement aircraft. 30 aircraft a day, of course, is unsustainable. I will have to settle for a much smaller force at New Perth, when the arifield is operable again. Once the Japs are confident in the air, Allied ground forces will get daily poundings, hurting readiness and consuming supply.

Current supply stocks are about 60,000 tons for the two bases on New Scotland. The ground troops will fight to the last as their is no practical way to get them out.

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RE: New Scotland - 7/20/2010 6:47:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kwik E Mart

i got curious about the bru-ha-ha in New Scotland and went searching for when all this started. it seems the first landing by the LYB's was Feb 6th, or there abouts. keeping the LYB's bottled up for two months seems quite the feat, but begs the question - how long does the allied high command plan to fight this meat grinder? from where i sit (squarely in the peanut gallery) it would seem that continued resistance is the proper strategic choice. comments from the high command?

ps - i've heard that the To Do lists for that brave chap manning the 50 cal have won pulitzers...


Lord Admiral Sprior has been very patient with the hemorrhage of naval assets, including one loaner from the RAN, but any surface move now is suicidal with the carriers on station. I really don't have a clear answer to the Jap naval bombardments short of barrel wear on their guns, mines and a lucky sub attack. The USN carriers are not battle ready due to losses to their air groups.

We have run out of USAAF replacement aircraft. 30 aircraft a day, of course, is unsustainable. I will have to settle for a much smaller force at New Perth, when the arifield is operable again. Once the Japs are confident in the air, Allied ground forces will get daily poundings, hurting readiness and consuming supply.

Current supply stocks are about 60,000 tons for the two bases on New Scotland. The ground troops will fight to the last as their is no practical way to get them out.


yes, it's a shame the mines are not more effective...any way to get some pesky PT boats created in new perth?


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