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RE: Ship Speeds in Tracker - 6/30/2010 3:15:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: floydg

There is some FoW involved here. We haven't been able to determine how the game itself fiddles with the counts, but the totals should be the same.

Hmm totals, not sure i get what u mean but here are the numbers 3 days into a pbem.
By game Zero today in all 25, 17 AtA 8 ops. Totals for game. 29 in all 17 AtA 2 flak 10 Ops
By tracker Zero today in all 18, 12 Ata 6 ops. Totals for game 21 in all 12 Ata 2 flak 7 Ops

quote:

That isn't right - your side's ships should all be reported. I've seen cases where you need to choose some of the filter menus a few times before the table updates properly. If that's not it, send me a save and I'll take a look.

Floyd

I did try and change the filters, no difference. ill try after next turn and see, else ill send a save.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

Edit: Just checked ship sunks again and it seems running the program a few times has updated the ships it now shows many more.

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RE: Ship Speeds in Tracker - 6/30/2010 3:39:03 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Walloc

quote:

ORIGINAL: floydg

There is some FoW involved here. We haven't been able to determine how the game itself fiddles with the counts, but the totals should be the same.

Hmm totals, not sure i get what u mean but here are the numbers 3 days into a pbem.
By game Zero today in all 25, 17 AtA 8 ops. Totals for game. 29 in all 17 AtA 2 flak 10 Ops
By tracker Zero today in all 18, 12 Ata 6 ops. Totals for game 21 in all 12 Ata 2 flak 7 Ops

The total is supposed to match, but the cause breakdown may be off. The Ops losses may be different if you load the turn after incurring additional ops losses.

quote:

quote:

That isn't right - your side's ships should all be reported. I've seen cases where you need to choose some of the filter menus a few times before the table updates properly. If that's not it, send me a save and I'll take a look.

Floyd

I did try and change the filters, no difference. ill try after next turn and see, else ill send a save.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

Edit: Just checked ship sunks again and it seems running the program a few times has updated the ships it now shows many more.

More or exactly what it should be?

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RE: Ship Speeds in Tracker - 6/30/2010 3:57:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: floydg

Hmm totals, not sure i get what u mean but here are the numbers 3 days into a pbem.
By game Zero today in all 25, 17 AtA 8 ops. Totals for game. 29 in all 17 AtA 2 flak 10 Ops
By tracker Zero today in all 18, 12 Ata 6 ops. Totals for game 21 in all 12 Ata 2 flak 7 Ops

The total is supposed to match, but the cause breakdown may be off. The Ops losses may be different if you load the turn after incurring additional ops losses.

Well since im allied shouldnt all the japanease ops losses be count?
By virtue of how turns are done and exchanged. While i can during my turn move my own aircraft getting more ops losses, altering my ops losses depending on time I load tracker. i havent found the way yet to move enemy aircrafts

ill give it a few more days and see what happens and report in.

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More or exactly what it should be?

Exactly, funny thing is that while i had 2 ships showing. 1 from first day and 1 from 2nd. It now shows some more that was sunk on day 1 too so it isnt only related to turns.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

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RE: Ship Speeds in Tracker - 6/30/2010 5:02:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: Nomad

PaxMondo, I see no reason there why you might run out of memory. It is strange.

Thanks, nor do I. Suggestions? Ideas?

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More ifo than I should get - 7/5/2010 1:00:02 AM

Nomad

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I don't think as the Allies I should get messages about advanced airframes.

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RE: More ifo than I should get - 7/5/2010 2:30:12 AM

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ORIGINAL: Nomad

I don't think as the Allies I should get messages about advanced airframes.

Never satisfied...

It'll be fixed in the next release.

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RE: More ifo than I should get - 7/5/2010 6:09:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: Nomad

I don't think as the Allies I should get messages about advanced airframes.

I fixed this a few pages ago ... sorry the new release isn't out yet ...

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RE: More ifo than I should get - 7/6/2010 12:04:06 PM

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http://sites.google.com/site/witptracker/lcu-production

Is empty.

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RE: More ifo than I should get - 7/10/2010 9:59:08 PM

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Another bug. In the LCU display combat engineers are NOT being counted as engineers. They should be added

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RE: More ifo than I should get - 7/11/2010 1:55:27 AM

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Another bug. In the LCU display combat engineers are NOT being counted as engineers. They should be added

Easy Fix ... we were only looking at Engineers ... comes from only looking at the IJA and not the Allies when testing

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RE: More ifo than I should get - 7/12/2010 3:07:15 PM

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Just installed this on my Windows 7 PC and not having much luck running. seems to be a java issue: any ideas?
C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\WitPTracker>java -Xms384m -
Xmx512m -jar "WitPTracker.jar"
'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

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RE: More ifo than I should get - 7/12/2010 3:15:15 PM

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Just installed this on my Windows 7 PC and not having much luck running. seems to be a java issue: any ideas?
C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\WitPTracker>java -Xms384m -
Xmx512m -jar "WitPTracker.jar"
'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

Question Withdrawn. I am a complete tool. I need to install Java!

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RE: More ifo than I should get - 7/12/2010 4:18:01 PM

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quote:

Just installed this on my Windows 7 PC and not having much luck running. seems to be a java issue: any ideas?
C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\WitPTracker>java -Xms384m -
Xmx512m -jar "WitPTracker.jar"
'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

Question Withdrawn. I am a complete tool. I need to install Java!

Yeah sorry a bit late to the punch ... install 32 bit java

Step 2. Check you have 32 bit Java
Check you have 32 bit Java installed. If you are working on a 64 bit OS, then you can have both installed.

Step 2. Option 1. Change your witptracker.bat file to point to the 32 bit Java executable (you need the ""'s cause of the space) - this varies on different machines so you'll need to check the path:
32bitOS users
C:\"Program Files"\Java\jre6\bin\java -Xms384m -Xmx512m -jar "WitPTracker.jar"
pause
64bitOS users
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms384m -Xmx512m -jar "WitPTracker.jar"
pause

NB** you must run WitpTracker from the batch file !!
(See link for executing the batch file in Win64 bit if it won�t run http://sites.google.com/site/witptracker/support )
OR
there is an executable Tracker file that might solve your problem IF you've done the step above http://sites.google.com/site/witptracker/support (end of the page)

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problems with tracker - 7/14/2010 1:12:52 PM

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i have this problem when i am trying to run the aplication

sorry for my poor english

F:\juegos\witp tracker 1.5>java -jar "WitPTracker.jar"
ERROR: Problem starting the database. Exiting.
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
at witptracker.Database.<init>(Database.java:34)
at witptracker.Main.main(Main.java:51)

F:\juegos\witp tracker 1.5>pause
Presione una tecla para continuar . . .

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/14/2010 1:18:23 PM

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and witht version 1.6 the same problem.I need help,thanks

F:\juegos\witp tracker 1.6>java -jar "WitPTracker.jar"
ERROR: Problem starting the database. Exiting.
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
at witptracker.Database.<init>(Database.java:34)
at witptracker.Main.main(Main.java:51)

F:\juegos\witp tracker 1.6>pause
Presione una tecla para continuar . . .

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/14/2010 1:21:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: livipajo

and witht version 1.6 the same problem.I need help,thanks

F:\juegos\witp tracker 1.6>java -jar "WitPTracker.jar"
ERROR: Problem starting the database. Exiting.
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
at witptracker.Database.<init>(Database.java:34)
at witptracker.Main.main(Main.java:51)

F:\juegos\witp tracker 1.6>pause
Presione una tecla para continuar . . .

Version 1.6 hasn't been released yet, but assuming you mean the latest (1.5.1), are you sure you have a folder called "lib" in the same folder as the witptracker.jar and witptracker.bat files? Inside the lib folder should be three files: hsqldb.jar, jcommon-1.0.14.jar and jfreechart-1.0.11.jar.

Floyd

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/14/2010 2:04:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: livipajo

and witht version 1.6 the same problem.I need help,thanks

F:\juegos\witp tracker 1.6>java -jar "WitPTracker.jar"
ERROR: Problem starting the database. Exiting.
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
at witptracker.Database.<init>(Database.java:34)
at witptracker.Main.main(Main.java:51)

F:\juegos\witp tracker 1.6>pause
Presione una tecla para continuar . . .

Are you sure you are running witptracker AE which is 1.5.1 NOT witptracker for witp stock which is a different program 1.6 ?

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/14/2010 5:32:03 PM

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I have done and instaled the AE version and the same

F:\juegos\witp tracker admiral edition>java -Xms384m -Xmx512m -jar "WitPTracker.
jar"
ERROR: Problem starting the database. Exiting.
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
at witptracker.Database.<init>(Database.java:31)
at witptracker.Main.main(Main.java:52)

F:\juegos\witp tracker admiral edition>pause
Presione una tecla para continuar . . .

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/14/2010 10:53:30 PM

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reinstall and all ok

now it runs

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/17/2010 2:33:32 AM

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I have a second game that I have about 155-160 turns loaded. When I tried to load tracker tonight it would load the data files but reported out of heap space when trying to create the UI. I increased the memory allocation to 512 and 1024 and tracker would load, but I could not load a new turn, it reported that there was not enough memory to do that operation. I tried a reboot of my machine and still no luck. I will stash my games away and start over. It looks like about 150 - 160 turns is the limit.

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/19/2010 10:56:43 PM

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Minor thing - Not sure if it's been asked or reported but in the device tab, units that still haven't arrived show in the # of active devices but if you show the history of the device no unit that hasn't arrived yet shows up (at least that's all I can think of to be the cause the problem). IE say all my arrived USA Inf devices have upgraded to the Inf 42 device, the device tab says I've got 200 active Inf 41 but when I go to the pool history no units show because the units that still have the Inf 41 device haven't arrived yet. I'm not sure which way would be best to show them

maybe just as it is now or if the unit should show when bringing the pool history but w/ the delay listed so as to know the unit is still due to arrive?

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/19/2010 11:29:39 PM

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Minor�thing - Not sure if it's been asked or reported but in the device tab, units that still haven't arrived show in the # of active devices but if you show the history of the device no unit that hasn't arrived yet shows up (at least that's all I can think of to be the cause the problem). IE say all my arrived USA Inf�devices have upgraded�to the Inf�42 device, the device tab says I've got 200 active Inf 41 but when I go to the pool history no units show because the units that still have the Inf 41 device haven't arrived yet. I'm not sure which way would be best to show them �maybe just as it is now or if the unit should show when bringing the pool history but w/ the delay listed so as to know the unit is still due to arrive?

I'm looking at the code and I only include active LCUs in the Pool History. I'll need a specific example to follow up on.

Floyd

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/20/2010 11:03:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: floydg

quote:

ORIGINAL: jcjordan

Minor�thing - Not sure if it's been asked or reported but in the device tab, units that still haven't arrived show in the # of active devices but if you show the history of the device no unit that hasn't arrived yet shows up (at least that's all I can think of to be the cause the problem). IE say all my arrived USA Inf�devices have upgraded�to the Inf�42 device, the device tab says I've got 200 active Inf 41 but when I go to the pool history no units show because the units that still have the Inf 41 device haven't arrived yet. I'm not sure which way would be best to show them �maybe just as it is now or if the unit should show when bringing the pool history but w/ the delay listed so as to know the unit is still due to arrive?

I'm looking at the code and I only include active LCUs in the Pool History. I'll need a specific example to follow up on.

Floyd

I've seen it for several inf types (USA, USMC, OZ, IND, etc) so I assume it affects every device to some point or another, too many to check each one but have been watching the Inf types so as to get them fully upgraded & the only thing I thought could cause this situation is units not arrived but having an older device type which would then upgrade when it arrives & the proper conditions are met. I've definitely gone though the USA units to see if all Inf have upgraded & all the ones currently in play have yet the pool says I've got older devices active yet no units have the older device. It's minor so no problem dealing with it.

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/20/2010 11:37:42 PM

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I've seen the same, it seems that when the last of a give device is upgraded, there will remain a number in the 'active' column.

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/21/2010 12:37:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: Smeulders

I've seen the same, it seems that when the last of a give device is upgraded, there will remain a number in the 'active' column.�

Bingo! I now see exactly where I went astray. Now to figure out how to fix it...

Floyd

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/21/2010 1:56:58 AM

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When I try and load a new save game it says that 'Turn 1 has already been loaded.' How do i load turn 2? When I select Read Turn, none of my saves come up to select. Any help please.

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/21/2010 2:02:42 AM

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When I try and load a new save game it says that 'Turn 1 has already been loaded.' How do i load turn 2? When I select Read Turn, none of my saves come up to select. Any help please.

Are you sure it's really a turn 2 save? You (and your opponent if PBEM) need to both execute an End Turn on turn 1 for the turn to become turn 2.

Floyd

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/21/2010 2:11:36 AM

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Thanks for the quick reply. It is definately turn 2 :)

However after closer reading of the help files on your site, it appears that whatever my save game file name is in the Properties file has to be the same name to load. So my first turn was wpae022.pws and my next turn was wpae025.pws. However the name I supplied in the properties file was wpae022.pws. So if I read your help file correctly, I would need to name the next turn's file name to wpae022.2.pws in order to get it to work, correct?

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/21/2010 2:19:51 AM

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Okay, you have two options: Do what you suggested and rename the file to have the same "base" slot name or you can use the "All PWS" option in the multi-turn read function and then (carefully) select the desired file. I say carefully because it will show you all games that have turns which could be loaded (only from the same scenario) and you could load from a different game if you're not careful.

Floyd

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RE: problems with tracker - 7/21/2010 2:35:19 AM

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Ok it turns out that the next turn file name has to be EXACTLY the same name as the one in the properties file. When I go to multi-read as you suggest, NONE of the save games appear even with the pws box checked. I can send you a screen shot showing that the file selection screen is totally blank, even though I have two saved games in the Tracker folder.

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