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RE: Repulsed - 8/6/2010 5:28:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		They've still got a lot of LCUs left over from the PI campaign sat around doing nothing.

I did notice a lot of their ships are using smoke signals now. Have they twigged the WT interception?

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RE: Repulsed - 8/6/2010 5:44:43 PM   
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They've still got a lot of LCUs left over from the PI campaign sat around doing nothing.


Yes. This is troubling. They could be prepping for New Zealand or Fiji or Samoa or anywhere in Oz. They can have Alaska if they want. I'd like to see them try Hawaii. They couldn't possibly sustain attacks at New Scotland and Hawaii at the same time. The same would seem to be true for an attack on India with KB pinned down support the New Scotland offensive.

They have also lost quite a few transports.

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I did notice a lot of their ships are using smoke signals now. Have they twigged the WT interception?


I think it is friction damage from all the dud torpedo hits.

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RE: Repulsed - 8/6/2010 7:22:41 PM   
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Have they twigged the WT interception?


This one is going to need some work. Any ideas people?

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RE: Repulsed - 8/6/2010 8:12:30 PM   
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Have they twigged the WT interception?


This one is going to need some work. Any ideas people?


I'll say that 'twigged' is Ye Olde English Jackspeak for 'cottoned' as in 'someone cottoned onto something'. In this case, my YOEJ to American translation would be something like,

"Dude. The LYBs figured out the radio signal intercept thing, dude. Now they're all-you know-up in your grill with the smoke and what not. I think they're even using it to-you know-like SIGNAL each other. Can you believe it? I mean, OMG. Word. Peace. Out."

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RE: Repulsed - 8/6/2010 10:13:43 PM   
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Have they twigged the WT interception?


This one is going to need some work. Any ideas people?



WT = wireless traffic?

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RE: Repulsed - 8/7/2010 1:03:43 AM   
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They could be prepping for New Zealand

Nelson has invaded New Zealand in our game. He learned a lot from your game and invaded New Scotland et al, very early.

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RE: Repulsed - 8/7/2010 4:04:54 AM   
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Have they twigged the WT interception?


This one is going to need some work. Any ideas people?


I'll say that 'twigged' is Ye Olde English Jackspeak for 'cottoned' as in 'someone cottoned onto something'. In this case, my YOEJ to American translation would be something like,

"Dude. The LYBs figured out the radio signal intercept thing, dude. Now they're all-you know-up in your grill with the smoke and what not. I think they're even using it to-you know-like SIGNAL each other. Can you believe it? I mean, OMG. Word. Peace. Out."



****! There went my beer... out my nose and all over the desk.

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RE: Repulsed - 8/7/2010 7:22:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		"WT" might just be "wireless telegraph"

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RE: Repulsed - 8/7/2010 12:17:53 PM   
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Twigged = realised, cottoned onto, etc (etc = on so on, it's latin and short for et cetera.)
WT = Wireless Telegraphy, aka radio

Originally, radio or radiotelegraphy was called "wireless telegraphy", which was shortened to "wireless" by the British. The prefix radio- in the sense of wireless transmission, was first recorded in the word radioconductor, coined by the French physicist Édouard Branly in 1897 and based on the verb to radiate (in Latin "radius" means "spoke of a wheel, beam of light, ray"). "Radio" as a noun is said to have been coined by the advertising expert Waldo Warren (White 1944). This word also appears in a 1907 article by Lee De Forest, was adopted by the United States Navy in 1912 and became common by the time of the first commercial broadcasts in the United States in the 1920s. (The noun "broadcasting" itself came from an agricultural term, meaning "scattering seeds widely".) The term was then adopted by other languages in Europe and Asia. British Commonwealth countries continued to mainly use the term "wireless" until the mid 20th century, though the magazine of the BBC in the UK has been called Radio Times ever since it was first published in the early 1920s

Like, omg people.

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RE: Repulsed - 8/7/2010 1:02:01 PM   
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I thought it was plain English.

Twigged = realised, cottoned onto, etc (etc = on so on, it's latin and short for et cetera.)
WT = Wireless Telegraphy, aka radio

Originally, radio or radiotelegraphy was called "wireless telegraphy", which was shortened to "wireless" by the British. The prefix radio- in the sense of wireless transmission, was first recorded in the word radioconductor, coined by the French physicist Édouard Branly in 1897 and based on the verb to radiate (in Latin "radius" means "spoke of a wheel, beam of light, ray"). "Radio" as a noun is said to have been coined by the advertising expert Waldo Warren (White 1944). This word also appears in a 1907 article by Lee De Forest, was adopted by the United States Navy in 1912 and became common by the time of the first commercial broadcasts in the United States in the 1920s. (The noun "broadcasting" itself came from an agricultural term, meaning "scattering seeds widely".) The term was then adopted by other languages in Europe and Asia. British Commonwealth countries continued to mainly use the term "wireless" until the mid 20th century, though the magazine of the BBC in the UK has been called Radio Times ever since it was first published in the early 1920s

Like, omg people.


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RE: Repulsed - 8/7/2010 4:21:47 PM   
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I thought it was plain English.
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Like, omg people.


Well...."Wireless Telegraph" made sense when it was a "wireless telegraph". Once voice and music were broadcast the term seems somewhat lacking.

I've always favored "Marconi set".

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RE: Repulsed - 8/7/2010 4:32:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK...I need some operational planning data and Pacific Fleet staff are just not doing it. I don't trust the guys that keep taking the Jap carriers on and off the sunk list.


1) What is the range of the Kate in AE (with bomb load and with torps)?

2) What is the range of the Val?

3) What quality of pilot am I likely to encounter from land based Vals and Kates at this point in the war?

4) Is it really true that Yamashita wears girlie underwear?

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Starry, starry night - 8/7/2010 4:56:11 PM   
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RE: Repulsed - 8/7/2010 5:13:30 PM   
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OK...I need some operational planning data and Pacific Fleet staff are just not doing it. I don't trust the guys that keep taking the Jap carriers on and off the sunk list.


1) What is the range of the Kate in AE (with bomb load and with torps)?

2) What is the range of the Val?

3) What quality of pilot am I likely to encounter from land based Vals and Kates at this point in the war?

4) Is it really true that Yamashita wears girlie underwear?

1/ 9 hexes with bomb load and 7 with torp.
2/ 7 hexes with 250kg bomb and 6 with 2x60kg
3/ Dunno. Should be quite high by this time if they have done their homework though.
4/ Only on odd numbered fridays with a full moon. Sigint are still debating about the bikini top though.

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The Kimberly - 8/7/2010 5:19:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		************With the King's Own 452nd Culinary Coy(-),50 m East of Wyndham, April 26, 1942**********



Lt. Uppington-Smythe: <standing on a Bren carrier> Right, thank you all for coming. Well, I'll get right to the point. As you know, with the addition of some stragglers from the Meals on Wheels platoon, our strength has now grown to 30. This should allow us to give Johnny Jap a bloody great black eye! I'd like us to get to work on a little trick I learned from the Hmong...<he withdraws a shrapened stick from behind his back with great flair>...the Punji stick!

Soldier 1: <raises hand as is recognized with a nod> Yes sir, did you say "Mung"?

Lt. Uppington-Smythe: No Cosgrove, that "Huu..mong" but one needs to swallow the soft "u" sound a bit. Say it...everyone...Huuu...mong.

Group: Hooo...uuu..ooo...aaaa...mooouunng.

Lt. Uppington-Smythe: Better. We can work on that. Right, now the Punji sticks. Normally, one would use bamboo, but, as we have no bamboo, we will substitute these reeds over here. Any questions so far?

Soldier 2:Sir, what is the estimate of enemy strength?

Lt. Uppington-Smythe: Right, well the intel chaps were caught up in the debacle back in Wyndham but my guess is 15,000, perhaps 18,000 tops...........





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RE: The Kimberly - 8/7/2010 5:24:15 PM   
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RE: The Kimberly - 8/7/2010 5:48:37 PM   
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RE: The Kimberly - 8/7/2010 6:36:39 PM   
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Great AAR!


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RE: The Kimberly - 8/7/2010 7:19:23 PM   
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Maximum Improbability Drive - 8/8/2010 2:54:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have complied a list of what must happen to have a successful relief of New Scotland:

1) Sink or damage 1-4 Jap carriers with submarine attack or intrepid float plane attacks on recon missions.

2) Maintain the serviceablitly of New Edinburgh airfield to support the land based attacks on the Jap carriers and supression efforts on New Ullapool.

3) Assemble 150 P-39/P-400/P-40E for New Scotland and Norfolk Is air ops.

4) Assemble 60-70 A-24/B-26/A-20/B-25 for the land based portion

5) Rest and refit 4 squadrons B-17's for suppression attacks on New Ullapool.

6) Failing number 1, attrit Jap carrier air with land based attacks or fighter traps.

7) At time of engagement, engage Jap carriers at range of 4 or less (to permit participation of TBD's) WHILE under cover of land based air from Norolk AND out of range of the Kates from New Ullapool.

8) Catch half of the Jap carrier aircraft on airfield attack (a la Midway), launch a well coordinated strike that arrives over the carriers after the Jap CAP has been fatigued and disorganized by a land-based strike.

9) Absorb the attack by bettys and Nells without ship damage

10) Thank the Lord for the Jap counterstirke.

What could go wrong?

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RE: Maximum Improbability Drive - 8/8/2010 3:05:12 PM   
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Is this list all-inclusive, either/or, some type of sliding scale, black-scholes method, perhaps a pareto diagram integrating the area under the curve, or just a cost-plus contract issue with M&M?

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RE: Maximum Improbability Drive - 8/8/2010 4:16:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		**********2,000 ft above New Perth, 10:15, April 25, 1942*********

They are the last 2 flight-worthy, rearmed and refuled Allied fighters at New Perth after a sustained attack by hundreds of Jap carrier and land-based aircraft. Yet another raid has been detected from the NW and the 2 P-39D's are straining to gain altitude for the intercept. In the wingman position, a pilot with a neatly trimmed beard smokes a fine Cohiba cigar. Despite the odds, he has a smile of confidence on his face. A Zero screams out of the sun and red tracers impact his flight leader's aircraft. In seconds smoke pours from behind the cockpit. The bearded man stays with his flight leader until he climbs another 500 ft and safely bails out. With that aside, the bearded man discards the last of the Cohiba, smiles broadly and banks toward a group of Sallys.


Morning Air attack on 193rd Tank Battalion, at 114,159 (La Foa)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 11
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 9



Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

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RE: Maximum Improbability Drive - 8/8/2010 5:00:12 PM   
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RE: Maximum Improbability Drive - 8/8/2010 5:06:43 PM   
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Did he use the cigar smoke to keep the Zeros off his tail?



A Cohiba, imported to the South Pacific at considerable expense, is to be savored.

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RE: Bearded man smoking cigar - 8/8/2010 5:35:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Without doubt! I wasn't suggesting it was acrid, just that it might be a good smokescreen post-savoring.
Or maybe the Zero pilots were savoring it too and couldn't bring themselves to shoot it out of the sky...

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RE: Bearded man smoking cigar - 8/8/2010 8:38:49 PM   
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Did he mention anything about staying thirsty?


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RE: Maximum Improbability Drive - 8/9/2010 2:42:09 AM   
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Did he use the cigar smoke to keep the Zeros off his tail?



A Cohiba, imported to the South Pacific at considerable expense, is to be savored.

Makes you wonder -- just what kind of a deal does he have with Milo?

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RE: New beard - 8/9/2010 7:10:29 AM   
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That actually brought tears to my eyes...


In a good way I hope...Mein Deutsch ist ganz schrecklich.



In this AAR I doubt there is any other way than a good way, Herr Mynok. Übrigens: Deutsch ist schrecklich.
So you are perfectly in line with the language.



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RE: Maximum Improbability Drive - 8/9/2010 12:34:04 PM   
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What could go wrong?


Its funny your should ask that, because I've compiled this list of 10 things.....

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RE: Bearded man smoking cigar - 8/9/2010 3:10:38 PM   
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Did he mention anything about staying thirsty?



He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would talk to himself in a single-seat P-39 cockpit.

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