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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 1:45:56 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 1:46:43 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 1:47:29 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 1:47:35 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 1:50:24 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 2:07:40 PM   
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Dixie's newly upgraded ride






Poor gas milage and hard to park. On the other hand, who's gonna fight you for a parking space?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 2:11:22 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 2:14:21 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 2:20:02 PM   
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Think he's compensating for something?


Yes, he obviously he has small .... feets.
That 75mm looks just a bit too long for a Stug III, but maybe thats the idea of its "upgraded".
But then a StuG III isnt a TD, but an artillery piece.

What do i know,

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 2:55:02 PM   
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Think he's compensating for something?


Yes, he obviously he has small .... feets.
That 75mm looks just a bit too long for a Stug III, but maybe thats the idea of its "upgraded".
But then a StuG III isnt a TD, but an artillery piece.

What do i know,

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It's not strictly historical, but that's online games for you Each vehicle has 4 upgradeable components (or 5 for tanks). Each component usually has 2-5 different options that are unlocked with experience from battles. For instance the StuG III has four gun options.

7.5cm Stuk40 L/43
10.5cm StuH 42 L/28
Pak 39 L/38
7.5cm Stuk42 L/70

The default gun that comes with the StuG is terrible against anything bigger than a T-34 and only really good against A-20 or smaller (and the German equivelents). The 10.5 is pretty good at close range if it's loaded with HE, until they sort the HE shells properly. US tanks should be coming along soon, then hopefully they'll put some proper Brit tanks in instead of just lend lease stuff for the Russian faction.

It still suffers from people taking it far too seriously though, especially as (a) it's free and (b) it's not finished yet.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 3:29:22 PM   
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It's not strictly historical, but that's online games for you


I kinda figured, but that removes the possibilty of making fun of it, feeling very much superior

Hugs and gratz on ur new ride, Dixie

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P.S Brize Norton as in the base or just coincidental habitat?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 4:14:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, that gun looks way too long for a StuG. Walloc's picture looks like the Stug with the L70 gun. Same gun as was in the Pzkw IVF2 and later models IIRC.

That game gun looks like a Jagdpanther gun.

StuG's were assault guns (stürmgeschütz), i.e. infantry support, not artillery. The L70 gun made it a serviceable anti-tank weapon.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 4:36:38 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 4:39:08 PM   
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Yeah, that gun looks way too long for a StuG. Walloc's picture looks like the Stug with the L70 gun. Same gun as was in the Pzkw IVF2 and later models IIRC.

That game gun looks like a Jagdpanther gun.

StuG's were assault guns (stürmgeschütz), i.e. infantry support, not artillery. The L70 gun made it a serviceable anti-tank weapon.


I would be say its a 75L48, but it could be a L43. Difference is really in the muzzlebreak, identification wise. Actually the Pzkw IVF2 was the last model to use the L43 after that. Pz/StuGs was produced with the L48 apart from the first 200 examples of the Pzkw IVG which had the L43 too.

The picture of Dixies StuGIII looks like it got a 75/L70. StuGIII, never mounted that. Only the Panther and Jadgpz IV/70.

Any how it a game so it goes. Tho i suspect that the recoil on a 75/L70 would be a tad to much for a PzIII chassis in real life, not to mention the 105mm that apparently is an option too.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 5:04:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah, forgot about the L48. That was the gun I was thinking of. What I get for yammering off the top of my head without reviewing the TO&E.

The StuH42 mounted the 105mm....and it looks like it is on a PzIII chassis.......



Go to this link for the full image.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 5:06:01 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 5:06:31 PM   
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Actually that album from the Saumur tank museum is pretty cool.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 5:10:49 PM   
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The StuH42 mounted the 105mm....and it looks like it is on a PzIII chassis.......



Ur right, my bad. didnt think of the shortnosed 105.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 5:11:24 PM   
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P.S Brize Norton as in the base or just coincidental habitat?



Technically, neither as I live in the town where the base is situated. I'm based there though and it's better than people thinking I live in Carterton

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 5:59:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		So, the British defence minister Liam Fox has called for a ban on the upcoming Medal of Honor game because you can play as the Taliban in multiplayer.

Now, an Italian-American lobbying group has denounced the new game Mafia II as "racist nonsense" because the Mafia members in it are... Italian-American!

My conclusions:

- Liam Fox needs to get back to actually doing his job, i.e. making short-sighted budget cuts in the British military.

- All lobbying groups everywhere need to be banned.

- I'm definitely buying both Medal of Honor and Mafia II.





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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 6:19:00 PM   
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So, the British defence minister Liam Fox has called for a ban on the upcoming Medal of Honor game because you can play as the Taliban in multiplayer.

Now, an Italian-American lobbying group has denounced the new game Mafia II as "racist nonsense" because the Mafia members in it are... Italian-American!

My conclusions:

- Liam Fox needs to get back to actually doing his job, i.e. making short-sighted budget cuts in the British military.

- All lobbying groups everywhere need to be banned.

- I'm definitely buying both Medal of Honor and Mafia II.






While I totally agree with your opinions, and go along with conclusions 1 and 3, if you've got it all out of your system now, we might want to change directions away from a course that might be seen as "political", back to our regularly scheduled programming (WITP AE). In that spirit I ask, "Sunk or scuttled?".

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 6:29:51 PM   
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So, the British defence minister Liam Fox has called for a ban on the upcoming Medal of Honor game because you can play as the Taliban in multiplayer.

Now, an Italian-American lobbying group has denounced the new game Mafia II as "racist nonsense" because the Mafia members in it are... Italian-American!

My conclusions:

- Liam Fox needs to get back to actually doing his job, i.e. making short-sighted budget cuts in the British military.

- All lobbying groups everywhere need to be banned.

- I'm definitely buying both Medal of Honor and Mafia II.






Don't encourage him Termy The further the politicans stay away from my job the better Obviously UK politics are a political topic for me so I'll leave it there.

It won't get banned, and all he's doing is creating free publicity for the game. It doesn't bother me that you can play as the Taliban and they've shot at some of my friends, given the chance they lob a rocket at me as well. I can play as Japan in WitP as well, or the Germans or Russians in plenty of games and they were not particularly nice people either.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 6:50:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know this was a borderline political no-no, but this sort of thing reminds me of an old quote from Benito Mussolini, speaking of one of his generals:

"Here's another general with whom I can't get angry, because I despise him".

Anyway, I'm buying those games; just pre-purchased Mafia II, which will be released in Europe on Friday. I don't understand why games are still released on different dates in the States and Europe...

Moving on... There's a documentary series running on Danish TV at the moment, about the Roman occupation of Britain. Part 2 tonight.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 6:52:50 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 6:53:39 PM   
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Take heart, it's September soon! And there was much rejoicing.




That might very well be, but there's always a chance that Summer will give Autumn a miss and go straight into Winter.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 6:56:42 PM   
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Go to Orkney! Everything from pre-historic stone rings to the remains of the RAF and RN bases at Scapa Flow. And wrecks to dive on too if you're into that.



BRRRR..... cold wreck diving! Bermuda, or Truk or Kawejalin would be probably a lot more pleasant.

Brother Steve-a heartfelt 'Roger' on that one. I did my certification diving in a quarry in West Virginia in a winter snowstorm. Hawaii or the Caribbean was infinitely superior.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 7:03:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Thread dudes-guess who is celebrating his 29th wedding anniversary this weekend?  Hint: not me (or Mike).

Anyways, a heartfelt 'congratulations' to this particular fellow for a noteworthy achievement. 

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 7:23:12 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 7:29:07 PM   
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Hey Thread dudes-guess who is celebrating his 29th wedding anniversary this weekend?  Hint: not me (or Mike).

Anyways, a heartfelt 'congratulations' to this particular fellow for a noteworthy achievement. 


The only thing I'm sure of is that it's not me. I haven't that kind of patience.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/25/2010 7:33:26 PM   
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Hey Thread dudes-guess who is celebrating his 29th wedding anniversary this weekend?  Hint: not me (or Mike).

Anyways, a heartfelt 'congratulations' to this particular fellow for a noteworthy achievement. 


The only thing I'm sure of is that it's not me. I haven't that kind of patience.


Not me, I haven't been alive that long...

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