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RE: Why, eh? - 9/14/2010 10:01:44 PM   
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It's a long game, and it's even a long time before auto-victory comes into play, so there's no "pretty soon now." Of course, Brad may accomplish things now that lay the groundwork for victory later, but we'll see.

I think for Brad to achieve auto-victory will require the conquest of India. How many IJA divisions will that take? The Allies currently have something like 5,000 AV present in India. They're not the best troops, but I would think a minium of ten IJA divisions will be necessary to have a decent shot at it. Furthermore, Brad will have to keep the full KB nearby or else he risks the Allied carriers disrupting his supply lines.

And if he keeps the KB present near India, the Allies will be in a position to move forward in the Pacific theater well before the end of the year.

Yes, I'm nervous about India, but we have a very, very long way to go.


Restraining myself . . .

Again, I think you'll enjoy reading his AAR some day.

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/15/2010 12:55:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Brad knows all this - in fact, he gave me some friendly advice and counsel when the idea first occurred to me to invade Hokkaido and the Kuriles in that WitP game. When he sees the western Aleutian bases growing in our game, he'll have to beef up his NoPac defenses considerably. I think I can use this to my advantage as the game wears on, either for decoy purposes or to actually invade NoPac.

So...is it HE that I should blame??!!




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RE: Why, eh? - 9/15/2010 4:23:33 AM   
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If the Allied player sets foot in the Kuriles, he gets a big, free Japanese troop activation for his trouble. Plus, I believe, early activation of kamis.



Sooner or later you are going to be faced with this eventuality no matter which route you are taking. It does not matter which way you approach. It does not really pay for the Japanese player to fool around with Kamikazes until a certain point in the war is reached. Activated or not. Besides, he does not have to move close enough to trigger these events. It is just the threat.

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/15/2010 8:06:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ah landing in the Kuriles gives neither troops nor Kamikazes.Even if you land in Tokyo you wont get Kamikazes prior 1/44.

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/15/2010 3:28:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Landing in the Kuriles (or anywhere else in the Home Islands) does trigger immediate Japanese reinforcements. I learned this to my sorrow in my game vs. Miller.

It will also trigger availability of kamikazees beginning 01/01/44 since the Kuriles are close enough to one of the triggering bases (Tokyo).

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/15/2010 3:59:20 PM   
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Ah landing in the Kuriles gives neither troops nor Kamikazes.Even if you land in Tokyo you wont get Kamikazes prior 1/44.


The troops you do get; it happened to CR in his last game. On the kamis you are correct, but 1/44 is very early and makes a lot of expansion routes expensive if the Japanese player wants to dedicate to a kami repsonse. In a Scenario 2 game he has the planes to waste.

During CR's last game I did an extreme experiment against the AI in my game, where I sent about ten USN CVs plus escorts into kami range of the HI in 1945. I got a 1000 plane attack and lost, I believe, eight carriers over three days. I didn't have BBs for AA, but even so I had hundreds and hundreds of Hellcats and Corsairs on CAP (60%) and I took a beating. Ahistorical? Yes, because AE allows the IJA to produce massive numbers of excess planes and pilots. But it's a factor to weigh in activating kamis with 2.5 years left in the game.

Miller never did resort to massed kami waves partly because CR didn't go near enough to them. The game ended before an assault on the HI could begin.

Final thought--I read lots of Japanese Scenario 2 players bewailing the huge HI hit the large, involuntary pilot pool imposes on the Japanese economy. Whether the player wants those bodies or not, he gets them. Kamis might be a way to "cull the herd" while still racking up VPs, and reduce the HI leakage.

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/15/2010 4:08:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I can take and hold two or three or four good bases in the Kuriles and/or Sikhalin Island in '43 or early '44, I would jump at the chance despite the drawbacks of (1) triggering Japanese inantry reinforcements; (2) triggering kamikazees effective 1/1/44; (3) distance from good ship repair facilities; and (4) challenges in supplying and supporting my troops.

Surely everybody agrees that the primary Allied objective in AE is to close on Japan as soon as possible. Of course, the Japanese player may prepare his defenses sufficiently to thwart such a move, but many Japanese players neglect NoPac...primarily because many Allied players do. The Allied player should at least create the appearance of a threat, becaue that forces the Japanese player to shift troops and aircraft to NoPac or risk disaster.



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RE: Why, eh? - 9/15/2010 4:09:13 PM   
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If the Allied player sets foot in the Kuriles, he gets a big, free Japanese troop activation for his trouble. Plus, I believe, early activation of kamis.



Sooner or later you are going to be faced with this eventuality no matter which route you are taking. It does not matter which way you approach. It does not really pay for the Japanese player to fool around with Kamikazes until a certain point in the war is reached. Activated or not. Besides, he does not have to move close enough to trigger these events. It is just the threat.


True on the route, but the northern route has seasonal limits not present elsewhere, plus some geographical funneling which makes sub ops easier for the defender. I also realize that kamis are inevitable, but perhaps a historical activation in summer of 1944 via the Marianas is more prudent than asking for them on New Years' Day. It depends on a lot of factors; I'm simply suggesting they are a factor.

The Aleutians/Kuriles are a threat, IMO, only when strat bombing becomes feasible for the Allies in terms of airframes and relevant models. And that's not 1942, or even 1943 really. There is NO way a successful land invasion of the HI is going to be launched from the Kuriles/Aleutians in that period, if ever, considering free Japanese reenforcements, small base sizes with limited load speeds, seasonal issues, difficulty with overlapping LBA by the Allies and easy overlapping by the defender, and distance to Allies' main logistics and repair. The Japanese can rail reenforcements to any point in the northern HI faster than the Allies player can unload across the beach, unless the Allied player has total air supremacy, as was contemplated in Olympic and Coronet. In 1942-44 the Allied player won't have that in that northern theater, even theoretically. A land invasion simply isn't a credible threat. It's a side-show, but if the Japanese player doesn't come out it's a waste of resources IMO. Miller came out, and lost a lot of ships, especially BBs. I don't think Q would do the same.

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/15/2010 4:20:34 PM   
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If I can take and hold two or three or four good bases in the Kuriles and/or Sikhalin Island in '43 or early '44, I would jump at the chance despite the drawbacks of (1) triggering Japanese inantry reinforcements; (2) triggering kamikazees effective 1/1/44; (3) distance from good ship repair facilities; and (4) challenges in supplying and supporting my troops.

Surely everybody agrees that the primary Allied objective in AE is to close on Japan as soon as possible. Of course, the Japanese player may prepare his defenses sufficiently to thwart such a move, but many Japanese players neglect NoPac...primarily because many Allied players do. The Allied player should at least create the appearance of a threat, becaue that forces the Japanese player to shift troops and aircraft to NoPac or risk disaster.




Late 1943 or 1944 is a different proposition than trying a move now in hopes of drawing him away from India, which I thought was the topic. By all means garrison Attu and Kiska, but jumping at Para. Jima in 1942 seems like an op with no objective to me.

And call me odd, but I don't think that the Allies' objective is to close on Japan as soon as possible. The core objective in 1942 and 1943 is to attrit/cripple the Japanese economy, to pull down armament and vehicle point banks, to prevent HI bank growth, and to opportunistically sink whatever portions of the IJN that can be sunk on the way to sinking the merchant marine. Concurrent with that, hauling millions of tons of logistics forward, as well as troops, training/filling-out/upgrading TOE of same, and getting the 1944 hammer ready.

I would say that attritting the Japanese air effort was also key--as it was in RL--but like you I've come to understand that the game doesn't really allow that in Scenario 2. So, just staying out of the way of Allied air losses until the P-47/Hellcat era is a secondary objective.

Psychological factors like threats are fine, and work with some players (nations), but I think they must be credible, and the player open to worry. I'm not sure, in this game, that threats, fake-outs, diversionary attacks, etc. are going to be as useful as they have been against other players. Just my impression. I've never played PBEM, so the psych portion of the game is foreign to me.

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/15/2010 4:28:22 PM   
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RE: Why, eh? - 9/15/2010 4:39:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've never considered moving on the Kuriles in '42 or early '43. I've only mentioned using a buildup in the Aleutians as a "threat" to Japan as the game wears on. But I certainly think a move in '43 is possibe and would be productive if the Japanese player was sufficiently negligent. And I would definately prefer to close on the Home Islands in '43 instead of '44 or '45 if I could do so, but I don't think Brad is going to permit me to do so. But if I were playing a relatively inexperienced player who didn't properly attend to his defenses, I'd orchestrate a massive invasion of the Kuriles and Sikhalin Island in early October of '43, enjoy the reprieve over the ensuing winter months, and hit Hokkaido with B-24s in late '43, and Honshu with B-29s in mid '44.

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/16/2010 6:31:49 AM   
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Kamis might be a way to "cull the herd" while still racking up VPs, and reduce the HI leakage.


Won't affect HI, unless you drain the pool and eat into the trainees. HI cost is based on pilots in training, not in the pools. 90% certain.

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/16/2010 7:13:03 AM   
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Kamis might be a way to "cull the herd" while still racking up VPs, and reduce the HI leakage.


Won't affect HI, unless you drain the pool and eat into the trainees. HI cost is based on pilots in training, not in the pools. 90% certain.


Well, I got a 1000 plane raid flung against me. That would go a ways to draining the pool. I think the logic of even trying to save HI by killing pilots would depend on the armament and vehicle account totals, and shipyard plans. But it might be an interesting tactic. Lots of pretty good kami pilots in pretty good planes could knock the fixed-size USN aircraft replacement pool out of whack for months.

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/16/2010 7:39:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Very strange. While playing Japan I was faced with a Kurile invasion and the allies captured a base.However I didnt get any reinforcments

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/16/2010 1:45:51 PM   
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I think the logic of even trying to save HI by killing pilots


But even if you want to do that, you don't need to kill the pilots. Just pull them out of training school into a group. Or if you want to get more out, pull from training school to a group to general reserve.

Not saying you can't kill the pilots, just that's not necessary.


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RE: Why, eh? - 9/16/2010 6:25:43 PM   
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I think the logic of even trying to save HI by killing pilots


But even if you want to do that, you don't need to kill the pilots. Just pull them out of training school into a group. Or if you want to get more out, pull from training school to a group to general reserve.

Not saying you can't kill the pilots, just that's not necessary.


I've never played the Japanese side, so maybe I don't get what you're suggesting. Wouldn't the normal replacement pool, plus general reserve, plus TRACOM, need to be empty before the game will allow you to pull from the school pipeline? Are Japanese replacement pools normally that low by 1945? I've never gotten the Allies' replacemnt pools under several thousand pilots. There aren't enough groups, let alone planes, to stick them out into the fleet and then require partly-trained men to step up.

Side note: we are REALLY in need to a turn from the players here. Talking about mass suicides to game the economy is about the last refuge of the bored.

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/16/2010 6:27:28 PM   
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Very strange. While playing Japan I was faced with a Kurile invasion and the allies captured a base.However I didnt get any reinforcments


I'd have to search the manual. Is there a date range where you get them and not other times? You could search the old AAR between CR and Miller. I think the details of the reenforcements' names and activation locations were discussed there. I think they arrived pretty well equipped, and right away.

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/16/2010 6:33:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Allies invaded Paramushiro Jima and Onnekotan Jima on March 1, 1943. Miller immediately received a handful of units that were, I believe, called "garrison regiments." They were pretty strong, enabling him to put together a counterstrike much more quickly than if he had been forced to pull units out of farflung locales like the DEI. Note, however, that these units appeared in the Home Islands proper, not in the bases invaded.

By the way, Bullwinkle is correct about Q-Ball's unavailability this week - real work has called him so that we've done no more than one turn a day.

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On such small things.... - 9/19/2010 9:34:03 PM   
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Allied Reinforcements: After remaining in place 9 or 10 hexes from Karachi for about two weeks, the KB suddenly moved south to a point just west of Bombay. This is huge, because the first of three big reinforcement convoys leaves the "Aden channel" tomorrow. This convoy carries mainly engineers. The second convoy, this one carrying most of the UK division, comes in two days. The third, carrying the balance of the division arrives in three days. Had the KB remained near Karachi, I probably would have recalled the convoy rather than risk (1) losing a bunch of ships, and (2) alerting Brad that I was so anxious to get troops into port that I was willing to take such a chance. On such small things can the fate of nations hinge....
KB: The KB might reverse course and ruin my day, but I have a hunch it has moved south either to cover a new amphibious assault or because Brad is getting antsy (or low on fuel) about keeping his carriers posted at such an extreme location.

India: Mainly quiet the past few days. One-third of 6th Guards Division moved inland one hex, but found an Indian brigade posted there. Brad hasn't tried an assault yet. Bangalore and Goa now have Indian divisions; Surat is strongly garrisoned by 650 AV; Ahmadenabad, the key base between Surat and Karachi, has 350 AV; but Bombay, with just 270 AV, is vulnerable at the moment. The Japanese have taken Cox's Bazaar with my units retreating not toward Chittagong, but rather toward Akyab. :(

Sub Wars: Spearfish got an xAK near Fusan. I-165 got an xAKL near Diego Garcia. Canadian corvettes battled I-6 west of San Francisco. The Allies scored lots of hits with duds the past week or so.


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RE: Why, eh? - 9/20/2010 6:06:54 AM   
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Wouldn't the normal replacement pool, plus general reserve, plus TRACOM, need to be empty before the game will allow you to pull from the school pipeline?


No. If you select "Replacement" as the pilot option, the get next pilot will pull from the general pilot replacement pool only. If that's empty, it starts pulling from the guys in school.

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/20/2010 1:30:44 PM   
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Wouldn't the normal replacement pool, plus general reserve, plus TRACOM, need to be empty before the game will allow you to pull from the school pipeline?


No. If you select "Replacement" as the pilot option, the get next pilot will pull from the general pilot replacement pool only. If that's empty, it starts pulling from the guys in school.



Maybe beating a dead horse here, but how large is the Japanese general pilot replacement pool in a Scenario 2 game, by Jan 1944 and then on into 1945? In my Allies Scen 2 game in summer of 1942, it's over 3000 pilots, even with an aggressive training program and hundreds swept into the general reserve already. By kami-time, are there enough aircraft to empty a Japanese general replacement pool and avoid the HI hit?

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Through a Glass Darkly - 9/20/2010 5:50:35 PM   
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India: Brad is landing troops in a variety of spots. Previously, he landed 6th Guards Division on the southwest coast. Over this two-day period, he landed an infantry regiment and tank unit at the undefended base south of Viz, plus 2nd Division at Diamond Harbor. SigInt indicates that 4th Division, late from Clark Field, is aboard a Maru heading for Chittagong. I am puzzled. Brad is not concentrating his forces. 2nd Division isn't strong enough to take Diamond Harbor and 4th Division alone won't be enough to take Chittagong, though he could be bringing more troops to both bases. By why spread out divisions hither and yon instead of landing in force and going for the jugular? (Those of you reading Brad's AAR will know, but please don't use that knowledge to comment in here.) Perhaps he's landing strong detachments along the perimeter and will then land a massive force somewhere. That's the only plan that makes sense to me. That Brad shifted 4th Division from Allied-held Clark Field suggests that he is truly committing everything available to India. I am pretty close to deciding that there is no longer a major threat to India and Australia, so that I can begin to move units forward from their current positions.

India Reinforcements: The first transports have arrived at Karachi and more will come into port tonight. I'm sweating the possibility that a Japanese combat TF will show up, but the KB has moved far to the south and is no longer an immediate threat. Given two more days, the Allies will have most of a British division ashore, and the India defenses will be considerably stronger. A few weeks ago somebody suggested that I use the RN carriers as a diversion to distract the KB in order to get my reinforcements ashore. I expressed a belief that I might be able to do so without revealing the position of my carriers, and I think that hunch is about to be realized.

NoPac: The transports carrying a Marine regiment to Attu Island will arrive in about two days. As noted previously, I consider the thus far bloodless operations in the Aleutians to be an important Allied victory even though there has been no opposition. SigInt shows just 5,129 enemy at Paramushiro.

Guessing Games: I keep wondering how the totaly absence of the Allied carriers might be impacting Brad. I think it's got to mess with his imagination a bit, and that his sense of foreboding will increase as time goes on. I'm hoping it makes him reluctant to keep the KB stationed in one corner of the map too long. I hope his sense of unease about NoPac and the DEI will increase. I can't count on any particular situation developing, but I would be suprised if there haven't already been some benefits, with the situation becoming more acute as time goes on.

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RE: Through a Glass Darkly - 9/20/2010 9:00:27 PM   
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RE: Through a Glass Darkly - 9/20/2010 9:08:39 PM   
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In previous games I've used scientific names of trees, space, and Civil War battles as themes. This time I think I'll use the Revolutionary War as the theme. With that in mind, here are the first two Allied operations worthy of names:

Operation Eutaw Springs: The Allied effort to occupy, secure, and defend the islands of the Western Aleutians.
Operation Bemis Heights: The Allied effort to reinforce and successfully defend India.

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RE: Through a Glass Darkly - 9/20/2010 10:36:38 PM   
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India Invasions: Additional IJA troops came ashore at Diamond Harbor (2nd and 21st Divisions, 1st Guards Regiment, tank unit). The Chittagong invasion consists of 4th and 38th Divisions. That's five divisions now ashore in India, but they are widely scattered. Brad does have enough to take both bases, though it may take a few turns to reduce forts. Then it should take a bit longer to reduce Calcutta. These moves are, of course, a concern, but I would be far more concerned about a concerted effort to land near Bombay to move on the Karachi area. With five divisions already ashore and very far from what I consider the critical area, I'm beginning to wonder whether Brad can put enough troops ashore to really threaten NW India at this time. He could still bring another four to six divisions ashore someplace, but the Allies have 300 AV at Bombay, 650 at Surat, 350 at Ahmadenabad, and 350 at Karachi. In addition, a British division will be mostly ashore at Karachi tomorrow, barring an extremely unlucky IJN combat TF strike tonight, and the Allies have forces scattered throughout southern and eastern India. I much prefer a drawn out campaign in southern and/or eastern India to a massive invasion of northwestern India.

Combat Ships: Hyuga, Ise, Yamashiro, and Fuso are involved in the NE India landings. I've lost track of the KB, but believe she's somewhere off the southern tip of India. I have established a picket line of ships angling SW from Bombay, so I feel reasonably safe in sending ships into Karachi.

Counting Divisions: As the India invasion continues to develop, I'll keep careful count on the number of divisions present. If it becomes apparent that Brad is throwing everything into India in order to vanquish the subcontinent, that might open oppportunties for the Allies in other sectors. It will take Brad time to redeploy divisions and ships to meet needs in the Pacific. I just wonder if he isn't going to be pulling out his hair as time passes and his forces remain committed at the "far edge of the map." Is he rolling the dice, gambling everything on India? I don't know yet, but I'm evaluating things as they develop.

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RE: Through a Glass Darkly - 9/20/2010 11:28:11 PM   
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India Invasions: Additional IJA troops came ashore at Diamond Harbor (2nd and 21st Divisions, 1st Guards Regiment, tank unit). The Chittagong invasion consists of 4th and 38th Divisions. That's five divisions now ashore in India, but they are widely scattered. Brad does have enough to take both bases, though it may take a few turns to reduce forts. Then it should take a bit longer to reduce Calcutta. These moves are, of course, a concern, but I would be far more concerned about a concerted effort to land near Bombay to move on the Karachi area. With five divisions already ashore and very far from what I consider the critical area, I'm beginning to wonder whether Brad can put enough troops ashore to really threaten NW India at this time. He could still bring another four to six divisions ashore someplace, but the Allies have 300 AV at Bombay, 650 at Surat, 350 at Ahmadenabad, and 350 at Karachi. In addition, a British division will be mostly ashore at Karachi tomorrow, barring an extremely unlucky IJN combat TF strike tonight, and the Allies have forces scattered throughout southern and eastern India. I much prefer a drawn out campaign in southern and/or eastern India to a massive invasion of northwestern India.

Combat Ships: Hyuga, Ise, Yamashiro, and Fuso are involved in the NE India landings. I've lost track of the KB, but believe she's somewhere off the southern tip of India. I have established a picket line of ships angling SW from Bombay, so I feel reasonably safe in sending ships into Karachi.

Counting Divisions: As the India invasion continues to develop, I'll keep careful count on the number of divisions present. If it becomes apparent that Brad is throwing everything into India in order to vanquish the subcontinent, that might open oppportunties for the Allies in other sectors. It will take Brad time to redeploy divisions and ships to meet needs in the Pacific. I just wonder if he isn't going to be pulling out his hair as time passes and his forces remain committed at the "far edge of the map." Is he rolling the dice, gambling everything on India? I don't know yet, but I'm evaluating things as they develop.


First, I have banned myself from Q-Ball's AAR; so I have no idea what he is up to at thi moment. I am wondering if he is trying to lure you into a trap though. Perhaps he is threatening multiple axes hoping you will drive south to meet him. Then he will land the additional divisions behind you. Just a thought

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/20/2010 11:35:46 PM   
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By kami-time, are there enough aircraft to empty a Japanese general replacement pool and avoid the HI hit?


Number of aircraft is irrelevant, as you can pull as many pilots out of training school as you want independent of number of airframes.

Whether anyone would want to do all the clicking required is a different question. We play turn based strategy games for a reason

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RE: Why, eh? - 9/21/2010 12:09:44 AM   
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By kami-time, are there enough aircraft to empty a Japanese general replacement pool and avoid the HI hit?


Number of aircraft is irrelevant, as you can pull as many pilots out of training school as you want independent of number of airframes.

Whether anyone would want to do all the clicking required is a different question. We play turn based strategy games for a reason

We now return you to your regularly scheduled AAR.



If you can do one more post on this, can you tell me how? Every day I have things I've missed in the interface and screens pointed out to me. Playing the Allies, the only way I can see to pull pilots out of school early is to put them into actual air units. There are group limits above the number of airframes where you can pull in extra pilots, but they're not infinite. More like 130% of allowed aircraft.

If I've missed a way to do what you say please let me know. I'm interested if I've missed something major.

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RE: Through a Glass Darkly - 9/21/2010 12:24:09 AM   
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First, I have banned myself from Q-Ball's AAR; so I have no idea what he is up to at thi moment. I am wondering if he is trying to lure you into a trap though. Perhaps he is threatening multiple axes hoping you will drive south to meet him. Then he will land the additional divisions behind you. Just a thought


That occurred to me too, but it hasn't worked. Believing that I had to protect NW India above all else, I diverted some units from Chittagong, Calcutta, and Madras to Bombay, Surat, Ahmadenabad, and Karachi. If Brad's strategy was to threaten the NW so that I would weaken the south and east, it worked and he deserves a tip of the cap. But I'm prepared in the NW now and I prefer to fight in the S or NE.

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RE: Through a Glass Darkly - 9/21/2010 12:28:36 AM   
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Operation Eutaw Springs: The Allied effort to occupy, secure, and defend the islands of the Western Aleutians.
Operation Bemis Heights: The Allied effort to reinforce and successfully defend India.


Arrgh. Now I gotta go research again! Rev War battles are not my storng suit.

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