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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:18:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		The problem with beer comparisons is that beer generally doesn't travel well... what may taste great when it is made may taste truly dreadful in a couple of weeks, thus the penchant for large manufacturers to douse their beer with all kinds of preservatives.

So, local "fresh" beers tend to have an advantage in taste. Air transport can make up for this in a limited degree, but it makes the cost go way up, and any international import still has to wind its way though the supply chain of distribution, while local beers generally have a much shorter, direct supply chain.

Making comparisons of beer taste is very difficult, as it would mean coordinating delivery of beers from all over the world to one place so that they all had the same "brew date", and then conducting a blind taste test. Hard to do.

Of course, since wines are not affected so much by this (just the opposite, since you WANT aged wines for the most part), large scale blind taste tests can and are conducted with some regularity.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:20:40 PM   
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Morning guys.
What did i miss this week end on The Thread!!! ?




3 hockey game wins for my son.


Hey, this is great !! congrats to both of father and son !


Thanks, Eric! The kids played fantastic this weekend, and as an added bonus, my wife got to see the game yesterday!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:21:48 PM   
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The problem with beer comparisons is that beer generally doesn't travel well... what may taste great when it is made may taste truly dreadful in a couple of weeks, thus the penchant for large manufacturers to douse their beer with all kinds of preservatives.

So, local "fresh" beers tend to have an advantage in taste. Air transport can make up for this in a limited degree, but it makes the cost go way up, and any international import still has to wind its way though the supply chain of distribution, while local beers generally have a much shorter, direct supply chain.

Making comparisons of beer taste is very difficult, as it would mean coordinating delivery of beers from all over the world to one place so that they all had the same "brew date", and then conducting a blind taste test. Hard to do.

Of course, since wines are not affected so much by this (just the opposite, since you WANT aged wines for the most part), large scale blind taste tests can and are conducted with some regularity.


From what i remenber from a TV show, there are also "local taste" that is taken in acount for every food product:
a mustard, a bread, a chocolate, a cheese, a beer, is different in each country, each culture.
What someone will find tasty would not be appreciated from a foreigner and vice/versa.
So as for every other topic, one has to accept and respect difference

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:27:59 PM   
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The problem with beer comparisons is that beer generally doesn't travel well... what may taste great when it is made may taste truly dreadful in a couple of weeks, thus the penchant for large manufacturers to douse their beer with all kinds of preservatives.

So, local "fresh" beers tend to have an advantage in taste. Air transport can make up for this in a limited degree, but it makes the cost go way up, and any international import still has to wind its way though the supply chain of distribution, while local beers generally have a much shorter, direct supply chain.

Making comparisons of beer taste is very difficult, as it would mean coordinating delivery of beers from all over the world to one place so that they all had the same "brew date", and then conducting a blind taste test. Hard to do.

Of course, since wines are not affected so much by this (just the opposite, since you WANT aged wines for the most part), large scale blind taste tests can and are conducted with some regularity.


From what i remenber from a TV show, there are also "local taste" that is taken in acount for every food product:
a mustard, a bread, a chocolate, a cheese, a beer, is different in each country, each culture.
What someone will find tasty would not be appreciated from a foreigner and vice/versa.
So as for every other topic, one has to accept and respect difference



True, but i was thinking more along the lines of the various international wine competitions where there were panels of international judges.

Of course, "to each his own": taste varies for everyone on everything, whether it is coffee, beer, wine, women, or song!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:28:00 PM   
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So as for every other topic, one has to accept and respect difference


No we don't.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:28:33 PM   
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So as for every other topic, one has to accept and respect difference


No we don't.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:28:45 PM   
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OK, this one is OT, but just to share one of the most beautiful place in the world





Ou est la?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:29:19 PM   
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So as for every other topic, one has to accept and respect difference


No we don't.


OK, but you're english, we are used to it


(absolute Joke here )

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:30:01 PM   
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OK, this one is OT, but just to share one of the most beautiful place in the world





Ou est la?


Est là que la castle dans le Ecosse

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:33:37 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:33:44 PM   
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this one is not bad too




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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:34:47 PM   
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this one is not bad too





That's in Loch Ness

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:34:49 PM   
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OK, this one is OT, but just to share one of the most beautiful place in the world





Ou est la?


Est là que la castle dans le Ecosse


OK, to enlight Simon and others Threadster brothers, this one is Kilchurn Castle, in the Highlands (can't remenber wich county ).

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:35:27 PM   
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American coffees: There are some micro brewers (such as Kill Devil Hills on the Outer Banks of North Carolina) that send their coffee scout to Central and South America for the best beans and use them in a variety of roasts and blends to suit different tastes. For my money and palate, they are unbeatable--unless one insists on French roasts or expressos, which honestly belong in a different class of caffine drink.

American beers: If one stays away from the big national brands, there are a number of good micro brewers in almost every city of any decent size. Two small brewers that distribute nationally are Sam Adams and Yeungling, which produce excellent lagers, IMHO. Yeungling is an amber with a much smoother taste than Dos Xs amber, IMHO. Land Shark is a good pale lager (similar to Corona) brewed in Jacksonville, Florida and distributed through Budweiser. I like it better than Corona and it's my favorite summertime beer.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:36:12 PM   
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this one is not bad too





That's in Loch Ness


Nope. Eilan Donan, on West Highlands; this is the sea you're looking at.

Urqhart Castle on Loch Ness is more "pink" in color, and ruined (this one is fully restaured).

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:36:13 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:37:16 PM   
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C'set un dump





Bingo Simon ! this is Kilchurn from the inside

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:48:24 PM   
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American coffees: There are some micro brewers (such as Kill Devil Hills on the Outer Banks of North Carolina) that send their coffee scout to Central and South America for the best beans and use them in a variety of roasts and blends to suit different tastes. For my money and palate, they are unbeatable--unless one insists on French roasts or expressos, which honestly belong in a different class of caffine drink.


As far as American coffee BEANS - Kona coffee is fantastic... also pretty fantastically expensive unless you are in Hawaii.

Unfortunately, most of the "Kona Coffee" that seems to be around (on the U.S. mainland) is at most 10% Kona, and it doesn't taste nearly as good... even if they do charge a premium.

i haven't seen Kill Devil Hills brand, iirc... i'll make a point in looking for it, now.

PS - i'd add "New Belgium Brewery" to your list of good US small breweries with national distribution. Probably their most famous brand is "Fat Tire".

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:49:33 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:50:10 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:51:15 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:53:12 PM   
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ok, now running (err...driving) to see Claire, and than having dinner with my father.

So long guys.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 3:53:59 PM   
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ok, now running (err...driving) to see Claire, and than having dinner with my father.

So long guys.

Good luck!!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 4:07:05 PM   
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i haven't seen Kill Devil Hills brand, iirc... i'll make a point in looking for it, now.

PS - i'd add "New Belgium Brewery" to your list of good US small breweries with national distribution. Probably their most famous brand is "Fat Tire".

Kill Devil Coffee is not at stores, expect the Front Porch Cafes on the Outer Banks. I order from the internet store (beans or ground). If you buy 4 pounds per order, shipping is free. (http://frontporchcafeonline.com) I prefer the organics.

I've seen Fat Tire beer in some stores...I'll definitely give it a try, thanks.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 4:34:50 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 4:35:38 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 4:49:07 PM   
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Did you find Nik when you were in Seattle?  He seems to have gone missing. 


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 4:50:10 PM   
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If you want to try some great coffee, get some from this guy:

http://muddydogcoffee.com/coffee/welcome.php

The Ethiopian beans are especially good.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 4:54:41 PM   
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Hi Bruce.  

Did you find Nik when you were in Seattle?  He seems to have gone missing. 



Nik was out of town when I was there. We had conversed before the trip and I knew he would not be there.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/15/2010 4:55:36 PM   
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Hi Bruce.  

Did you find Nik when you were in Seattle?  He seems to have gone missing. 



He is alive and well.

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