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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/17/2010 10:44:11 PM   
PzB74


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To my big annoyance weather again prevented air attacks on Kalemyo...
This may have been decisive because the assault on Kalemyo achieves 1521-769 AV
Feck, feck, feck...missing 18 AV to capture the base, should have shock attacked after all.

But ok let's use this as an opportunity to wear down as many Allied LCU's as possible.
If another division arrives we'll crush it too because we have a strong numerical superiority and reinforcements on the way.

The para attack didn't affect enemy AV much, it was a bit higher than in our last attack.
Our AV went up by 50% though, partly because of the added 53rd Div, partly because of improved HQ support I guess.
- It was impossible to launch another attack tomorrow, supplies in the red - always need a rest between assaults to avoid extreme losses, fatigue and disruption.

Now we also got the Burma Area Army in range, so maybe our AV will improve further, negating the Allied reinforcements expected to arrive any time now.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 01, 43

Air Combat

Put some long range Zero A6M3a's on CAP over Luganville to hit the low flying Wildcats that have been bombing our troops.
Strangely our fighters at 30k feet didn't get the dive on the enemy; since we were on CAP the lone Wildcats acted as sweepers and even at 4k feet they
got the best out of the deal. Something whacky here.

Morning Air attack on 19th USN Naval Construction Battalion, at 59,41
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 42

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
42 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet *
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 8000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on 70th British Division, at 59,41
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on II/81st Naval Guard Unit, at 120,150 (Luganville)
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x F4F-3 Wildcat bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb
2 x F4F-3 Wildcat bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
582 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Raid is overhead
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)
Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 78573 troops, 858 guns, 1205 vehicles, Assault Value = 2877
Defending force 24819 troops, 638 guns, 701 vehicles, Assault Value = 727

Japanese adjusted assault: 1521
Allied adjusted defense: 769

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2507 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 196 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 127 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Vehicles lost 287 (37 destroyed, 250 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1819 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 153 disabled
Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 133 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 26 disabled
Vehicles lost 53 (6 destroyed, 47 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Guards Tank Division
2nd Tank Regiment
33rd Division
2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment
53rd Division
6th Guards Division
2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment
65th Brigade
2nd Recon Battalion
24th Infantry Regiment
79th Infantry Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
14th Tank Regiment
1st Recon Battalion
1st Tank Regiment
38th Division
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
6th Tank Regiment
22nd Recon Regiment
3rd Raiding Rgt /1
21st Army

Defending units:
7th Australian Division
16th British Brigade
32nd Infantry Division
14th Indian Division
2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment
4th Marine Rgt /1
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Heavy AA Rgt /1
8th Belfast Heavy AA Rgt /1
19th USN Naval Construction Battalion
13th Indian Light AA Rgt /1
1st KNIL AA Bn /1
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Burma

There are Marines and US SeaBee's at Kalemyo..someone's scraping the barrel
As you can see the Allied units are almost worn out; the 3nd Div has 67 AV left and the 16th Bde is down to 59.
The 7th Oz and 14th Indian are at 1/2 and 1/3 strength. The new LCU arrival since last turn is the 4th Marine Rgt.




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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/18/2010 4:04:25 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Quiet on the ground today but the war in the air goes according to plan!
Andy is getting a bit nervous about his prospects in Kalemyo and sent in a large fighter force to LRCAP the place as well as bombers to hit our ground troops.

Our sweeps went in as planned and slagged the enemy fighter defenses. 56-11 in air losses today and our ace list grew bigger.
We also hit enemy ground positions with heavy air strikes while resting our ground units.

Tomorrow we're ready again; another para unit is prepping and a small LCU reinforcement has moved into Kalemyo.
The biggest and best fitted divisions are ordered to shock attack; to do so with 50-60% AV units is asking for trouble.

So now the question is whether enough Allied reinforcements have reached Kalemyo or not - and of course whether it is Lady Luck or the Lord of Heck who rolles the AV dices next turn.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 02, 43

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 26

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 5
Spitfire Vc Trop x 5
P-38G Lightning x 12
P-39D Airacobra x 22
P-40E Warhawk x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Spitfire Vc Trop: 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 7 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on XV Indian Corps, at 59,41
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 39

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
39 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on 19th USN Naval Construction Battalion, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 59

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
P-38G Lightning x 12
P-39D Airacobra x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 3 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 9000 feet
18 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 36
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 9000 feet

CAP engaged:
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40E Warhawk (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on 50th Tank Brigade, at 59,41
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 24 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
30 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 70th British Division ...
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Morning Air attack on 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 25
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 26
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 20
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 125

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
36 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
35 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
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Morning Air attack on 14th Indian Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 7 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 50th Tank Brigade, at 59,41
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on 53rd Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2

Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 4
Blenheim IV x 4
Hudson IIIa x 3
Hurricane IIc Trop x 11
Beaufort VIII x 11
B-25C Mitchell x 8
P-38G Lightning x 11
P-39D Airacobra x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

CAP engaged:
260th Sentai/A with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking Imperial Guards Division ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
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Burma

Confirmed a bug with Andy; an AA unit has upgraded into a tank unit at Rabaul..has the potential to flesh out into a full fledged tank division!




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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/18/2010 5:17:34 PM   
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Which AA unit would that be?

Seriously though, probably would be helpful to let others in the midst of games know.

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/18/2010 5:17:44 PM   
Cribtop


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Status: offline 		Odd bug, but helpful. Now if we could get Artillery to upgrade to infantry divisions Japan could sweep the Pacific.

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/18/2010 9:00:29 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		It is the one in the last picture, 45th Field AA Battalion.

Andy said: "Yup it’s a bug nothing wrong with scen Ah well enjoy your extra Tank Div – offsets 7th Armoured Bde I get to keep for it being a no withdraw game !!!"
Guess I will use it as a garrison unit for Rabaul and most likely I won't flesh it out.

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/18/2010 9:51:21 PM   
Mynok


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Oops...didn't see the stuff to the right.

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/19/2010 11:14:43 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Heavy air battles in Burma today, pre-emptying todays ground assault.
We finally get a good 2000+ AV but that didn't help as enemy defensive AV swung up from 760 to 2100
One enemy tank bde reinforced the enemy.

So we're back to slugging but some of our units are nearing the end of their tether.
Guess we'll just continue to deplete the almost destroyed enemy LCUs and fight enemy air units at favorable terms.

A fleet oiler TF arrived at Truk but have to go back to Home Islands or DEI to pick up fuel as the base reserves at Truk are almost depleted.
Think I'll wait a bit with upgrading the carriers, many already have radar and the AA upgrades aren't that great.
- So let's repair damage, upgrade air units and build new fuel stocks and make some plans.

Still time for one more cavalry charge and one last Banzai before the turn of the tide!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 03, 43

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 83

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 3

No Japanese losses
No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on 53rd Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Imperial Guards Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 19

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on 26th Indian Brigade, at 59,41
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 5

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 25
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 26
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 54
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 125

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2
P-38G Lightning x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 14th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 4th Marine Regiment ...
Also attacking 16th British Brigade ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 14th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 5
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 12
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 12
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 12

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-29A Hudson: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 37
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 14
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 26

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 6 destroyed, 9 damaged


Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1
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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,4
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 20

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 23
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Morning Air attack on 53rd Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 14

Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 10
Blenheim IV x 22
Hudson IIIa x 6
Beaufort VIII x 20
B-25C Mitchell x 16
P-40E Warhawk x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Beaufort VIII: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking Imperial Guards Division ...
Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 65th Brigade ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 24th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 6th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 65th Brigade ...
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Morning Air attack on 65th Brigade, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 13

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
B-18A Bolo x 12
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed

Also attacking 79th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Formosa Inf. Regiment ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking Imperial Guards Division ...
Also attacking 65th Brigade ...
Also attacking 79th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 65th Brigade ...
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Morning Air attack on 21st Army, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 9
P-39D Airacobra x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on 7th Australian Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 16
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 5 damaged
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)
Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 78192 troops, 867 guns, 1176 vehicles, Assault Value = 2772
Defending force 30253 troops, 731 guns, 1022 vehicles, Assault Value = 840

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 2209
Allied adjusted defense: 2347

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
5785 casualties reported
Squads: 32 destroyed, 325 disabled
Non Combat: 51 destroyed, 291 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Vehicles lost 115 (25 destroyed, 90 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1498 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 134 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 181 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Vehicles lost 116 (2 destroyed, 114 disabled)

Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Regiment
2nd Recon Battalion
38th Division
6th Guards Division
14th Tank Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
6th Tank Regiment
53rd Division
Guards Tank Division
2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
79th Infantry Regiment
7th Burma Militia Regiment
33rd Division
1st Recon Battalion
65th Brigade
22nd Recon Regiment
4th Raiding Rgt /1
2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment
3rd Raiding Rgt /1
21st Army

Defending units:
50th Tank Brigade
16th British Brigade
2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment
14th Indian Division
32nd Infantry Division
4th Marine Regiment
7th Australian Division
14th British Bde /1
13th Indian Light AA Rgt /1
19th USN Naval Construction Battalion
XV Indian Corps
3rd Heavy AA Rgt /1
17th Indian Light AA Regiment
8th Belfast Heavy AA Rgt /1
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st KNIL AA Bn /1
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Burma




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< Message edited by PzB -- 11/19/2010 11:15:38 PM >

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/19/2010 11:18:54 PM   
CapAndGown


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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB

Think I'll wait a bit with upgrading the carriers, many already have radar and the AA upgrades aren't that great.
- So let's repair damage, upgrade air units and build new fuel stocks and make some plans.



I guess my memory must be off, but I thought that except for the Sho/Zuikaku pair, the rest of the carriers only got their radar suites with the 3/43 upgrade.

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/20/2010 9:58:26 PM   
rodri_irizar

 

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Status: offline 		Hi PzB, this is my fisrt interventino in this splendid AAR.
These tanks are too much like the arrival of the Blutcher´s damn Prussians.

And for heaven's sake, that your last cavalry charge does not become the swan song of your KB
Good luck and hit the Americans in their back

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/20/2010 10:24:08 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Yep, you're right C&G!
But my intention is to have a radar equipped carrier in each of the KB's two Air Combat Divison.
Would it have any negative consequences if only one surface ship or carrier in each TF has radar?

So the upgrades are necessary but we now have a cople of months of complete sea superiority and I want to take advantage of this.

Hi Rodri! Nice to hear from you
Yes, quite typical - 13 AV short from capturing the place. But we can still achieve our objectives by reducing the Allied forces in Kalemyo.
Maybe we can reduce even more of them than we would have if we captured the place early.
- Only 6 weeks left of the campaigning season in Burma, mid May the monsoon will halt all action until mid October.

Oh no, I've learned; the KB will not be squandered - all we need to do is to stay clear of major enemy LBA concentrations.
Andy has hardly more than a couple of carriers operational plust a waddle of CVEs, hardly a threat to the KB.

Most action was in the air again; combat between CAP, escorts, sweepers and bombers.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 04, 43

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 17

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on 19th USN Naval Construction Battalion, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 56

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
30 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
26 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 26
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 24
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 26
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 22
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 130

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 13 damaged

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 37

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
31 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
36 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 9000 feet
4 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 9000 feet
4 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 9000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.21 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 27000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 14th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking 32nd Infantry Division ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 14th British Bde /1 ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th Marine Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 9

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
P-38G Lightning x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 2 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Kweilin , at 76,54
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 8
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 20

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 36

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
P-38G Lightning x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Air Losses






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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/20/2010 11:59:48 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		More of the same; only air action in Burma today.

With most of our bomber units upgraded to the Helen II we manage to coordinate our attacks quite well.
Today 96 Tojo's swept Kalemyo before the main strike with 138 Helens and 136 fighters appeared.
- Not easy to stop such a raid. Good weather alloed some hits in the base as well, suppressing fort construction.

Our Army needed another rest, shock attacks are quite disruptive.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 05, 43

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 38

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet *
12 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 9000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
8 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 9000 feet
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Morning Air attack on 19th USN Naval Construction Battalion, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 26
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 24
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 26
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 36
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 138

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed, 38 damaged

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 76

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
28 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
35 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
36 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 14th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 32nd Infantry Division ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking XV Indian Corps ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 4th Marine Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 14th British Brigade ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 16th British Brigade ...
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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/21/2010 1:38:05 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Another deliberate attack achieves a 1-1 odds.
It's odd; if we manage a good AV the enemy does the same, it's just about having the required luck to have a perfect day
when the enemy has a bad one.

The Junyo has arrived in the Home Islands performing repairs and upgrade at the same time.
She was a lucky ship in the previous game as well.

The KB continues to take on Jill replacements.
Conversion to the Zero A6M5 is slightly delayed as the main Zero A6M2 factory don't want to convert.
The base has plenty supply so I'm at a loss why this happens 6 days into April.

In the rear areas airplanes like Sonia, Ann, Mary etc are slowly upgraded to Lily, Sallys and Helen Is.
I then train these pilots first in the ASW role, then in the low level naval bombing role and finally ground attack.
- This will provide us with a trained reserve later in the war.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 06, 43

Ground Combat

A bombardment was conducted against enemy units in the hex east of Kalemyo; evenly matched forces face eachotherh there.

Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 72209 troops, 831 guns, 907 vehicles, Assault Value = 2614
Defending force 29538 troops, 603 guns, 999 vehicles, Assault Value = 837

Japanese adjusted assault: 903
Allied adjusted defense: 826

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
5729 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 182 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 332 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 34 disabled
Vehicles lost 75 (8 destroyed, 67 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1602 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 167 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 186 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 38 (4 destroyed, 34 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2nd Recon Battalion
4th Raiding Rgt /1
Imperial Guards Division
33rd Division
1st Tank Regiment
1st Recon Battalion
22nd Recon Regiment
65th Brigade
6th Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division
79th Infantry Regiment
2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment
53rd Division
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
6th Guards Division
7th Burma Militia Regiment
38th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
3rd Raiding Rgt /1
21st Army

Defending units:
14th British Brigade
16th British Brigade
7th Australian Division
50th Tank Brigade
26th Indian Brigade
2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment
4th Marine Regiment
14th Indian Division
19th USN Naval Construction Battalion
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
XV Indian Corps
13th Indian Light AA Rgt /1
17th Indian Light AA Regiment
6th Heavy AA Regiment
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
8th Belfast Heavy AA Rgt /1
1st KNIL AA Bn /1
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Ground combat at 60,42
Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3416 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 485
Defending force 10050 troops, 116 guns, 66 vehicles, Assault Value = 464

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
17th Infantry Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
21st Infantry Regiment
90th Infantry Regiment
7th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
23rd British Brigade
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
77th Chindit Brigade
111th Chindit Brigade
45th Recce Regiment
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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/21/2010 1:44:21 AM   
CapAndGown


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Status: offline 		Manually convert the plane factory. You don't need to wait for the auto-upgrade. A manual conversion along the upgrade path will not damage the factories, same as for R&D factories.

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/21/2010 3:11:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PzB


Oh no, I've learned; the KB will not be squandered - all we need to do is to stay clear of major enemy LBA concentrations.
Andy has hardly more than a couple of carriers operational plust a waddle of CVEs, hardly a threat to the KB.



you shouldn´t underestimate the CVEs! If Andy puts them with his fleet this can give him more fighters than all the KB fields. The only thing about CVEs is their "slow" speed, I never understood why people really bother about speed because 99.9 out of 100 moves happen at normal speed anyway and if you have to do a full speed run you can do that with the CVs alone and the CVEs will catch up one turn later. Put 15 CVEs with the fleet carriers and you end up with something like 300-400 Hellcats more (depending on using VR squadrons as combat squadrons or not - again, I wouldn´t bother using them as VR but rather as fleet Cap).

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/21/2010 3:28:56 PM   
CapAndGown


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quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB


Oh no, I've learned; the KB will not be squandered - all we need to do is to stay clear of major enemy LBA concentrations.
Andy has hardly more than a couple of carriers operational plust a waddle of CVEs, hardly a threat to the KB.


you shouldn´t underestimate the CVEs! If Andy puts them with his fleet this can give him more fighters than all the KB fields. The only thing about CVEs is their "slow" speed, I never understood why people really bother about speed because 99.9 out of 100 moves happen at normal speed anyway and if you have to do a full speed run you can do that with the CVs alone and the CVEs will catch up one turn later. Put 15 CVEs with the fleet carriers and you end up with something like 300-400 Hellcats more (depending on using VR squadrons as combat squadrons or not - again, I wouldn´t bother using them as VR but rather as fleet Cap).


The speed is not important when just tooling around the Pacific. What matters is what happens when you get into battle. At that point their slow speed makes them sitting ducks for every Tomiko, Dicko, and Harriko-san with a bomb. You get into a carrier duel and they are going to die, regardless of how much CAP they can add. And at that point, all that CAP will be gone.



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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/21/2010 3:31:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		They will only die if the enemy bombers get through the CAP relatively unscathed.

I'll take 400 additional fighters in vulnerable CVEs over no additional fighters ANY day.

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NEWSFLASH; Queen Mary sunk! - 11/21/2010 4:03:20 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Hm, I'm afraid my A6M2 factories doesn't have an upgrade path to the A6M5 because they do become damaged when I try to change them.

That are valid points!
- Andy do use his CVE's vigorously and they _do die_ in large numbers.
However, by 4/43 the Allies don't have a huge number of them. I've sunk 1 leaving 7-8?
Hellcats are still not available to all these ships so I do feel rather confident.
I'll take the KB into battle against 2 fleet carriers and 7-8 CVE's any time; would be a good opportunity to defeat an inferior enemy.

Well Jahn, you dreamed about what happened if we intercepted an huge convoy with a proper force of heavy cruisers.
Now you can see for yourself 2 of our best heavy cruisers and 4 destroyers fired up all their ammo in such a battle today.
- and guess what...the prize target in the convoy was nothing else but the majestic Cunard-White Star Liner Queen Mary!

We dealt a heavy morale blow to the British Empire today!


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 07, 43

Surface Combat

Day Time Surface Combat, near Perth at 41,147, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Atago, Shell hits 1
CA Chokai
DD Amagiri
DD Oboro
DD Ushio, Shell hits 1
DD Nagatsuki

Allied Ships
AM Warrnambool, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
xAP President Madison
xAK Trieste
xAK West Cawthon, Shell hits 1
xAK Henry S Grove
xAK Santa Teresa
xAK Steel Engineer
xAK Susan Luckenbach
xAK Mormacrey
xAK San Anselmo
xAK Crown City
xAK Clevedon
xAK Don Isidro, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAK Eldorado
xAP Queen Mary, Shell hits 79, and is sunk
xAP Talma
xAP Tilawa
xAP Rajula, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAP Rohna, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAP Khandalla, Shell hits 14, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Santhia, Shell hits 25, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK African Prince
xAK Catrine
xAK Elysia
xAK Empire Raja
xAK Filleigh
xAK Halizones
xAK Hoihow
xAK Hunan
xAK Hupeh, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Jaladuta
xAK Jalajaran
xAK Jalaratna
xAK Khandalla
xAK Maldive
xAK Neleus
xAK Nirpura
xAK Nirvana
xAK Pundit
xAK Sirsa
xAK Stanmore
xAK Taiping
xAK Tanfield
xAK Wo Sang
xAK Wulin
xAK Admiral Chase
xAK Adrastus
xAK Anglo Canadian
xAK Appleleaf
xAK Autolycus
xAK Barala
xAK Benledi
xAK Birchbank, heavy damage
xAK City of Agra
xAP Koolinda, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
TK British Zeal, Shell hits 31, and is sunk
PG Swan, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
xAP Koolama, Shell hits 37, and is sunk
AO TAN 2, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
xAP Tjisaroea, Shell hits 38, and is sunk
xAP Kota Radja, Shell hits 37, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Poelau Telo, Shell hits 27, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Glenstrae, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Gamaria, Shell hits 1

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 20,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 20,000 yards
CA Atago launches Long Lance Torpedoes at AM Warrnambool at 20,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki launches Long Lance Torpedoes at AO TAN 2 at 20,000 yards
DD Ushio launches Long Lance Torpedoes at TK British Zeal at 20,000 yards
DD Ushio launches Long Lance Torpedoes at xAP Koolinda at 20,000 yards
DD Amagiri launches Long Lance Torpedoes at TK British Zeal at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards
CA Chokai engages TK British Zeal at 18,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAP Koolinda at 18,000 yards
DD Ushio engages AO TAN 2 at 18,000 yards
CA Atago engages TK British Zeal at 18,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Koolinda at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 16,000 yards
xAP Santhia collides with xAK Clan Macinness at 41 , 147
CA Chokai engages TK British Zeal at 16,000 yards
CA Atago engages TK British Zeal at 16,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages TK British Zeal at 16,000 yards
DD Ushio engages TK British Zeal at 16,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Koolinda at 16,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages TK British Zeal at 16,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAK Don Isidro at 16,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
xAK Orna collides with xAK Clan Macinness at 41 , 147
CA Chokai engages PG Swan at 14,000 yards
CA Chokai engages AM Warrnambool at 14,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages TK British Zeal at 14,000 yards
DD Ushio engages TK British Zeal at 14,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Koolinda at 14,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages TK British Zeal at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
CA Chokai engages PG Swan at 13,000 yards
CA Atago engages AM Warrnambool at 13,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages AO TAN 2 at 13,000 yards
DD Ushio engages TK British Zeal at 13,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Koolinda at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
PG Swan sunk by CA Atago at 10,000 yards
CA Atago engages TK British Zeal at 10,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages TK British Zeal at 10,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Koolinda at 10,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Koolama at 10,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Tjisaroea at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CA Chokai engages TK British Zeal at 7,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages AO TAN 2 at 7,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages TK British Zeal at 7,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Koolinda at 7,000 yards
DD Oboro engages TK British Zeal at 7,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages TK British Zeal at 7,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAK Lavington Court at 7,000 yards
xAK Turing Mary collides with xAK Clan Macbrayne at 41 , 147
CA Chokai engages TK British Zeal at 7,000 yards
CA Atago engages TK British Zeal at 7,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages TK British Zeal at 7,000 yards
DD Ushio engages TK British Zeal at 7,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Tjisaroea at 7,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages TK British Zeal at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
AM Warrnambool sunk by CA Atago at 6,000 yards
TK British Zeal sunk by CA Atago at 6,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Koolama at 6,000 yards
xAP Rohna collides with xAK City of Agra at 41 , 147
xAK Clan Macinness collides with xAK City of Agra at 41 , 147
DD Amagiri engages AO TAN 2 at 6,000 yards
CA Atago engages AO TAN 2 at 6,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Tjisaroea at 6,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Kota Radja at 6,000 yards
DD Oboro engages AO TAN 2 at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
xAK Sepia collides with xAK City of Agra at 41 , 147
AO TAN 2 sunk by CA Chokai at 7,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Koolama at 7,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Tjisaroea at 7,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Poelau Telo at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Tjisaroea at 6,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Queen Mary at 6,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Queen Mary at 6,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Queen Mary at 6,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Queen Mary at 6,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAK City of Agra at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Koolama at 5,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAP Queen Mary at 5,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Poelau Telo at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
CA Chokai engages xAP Tjisaroea at 3,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Poelau Telo at 3,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Queen Mary at 3,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Koolama at 3,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAP Queen Mary at 3,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Queen Mary at 3,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Queen Mary at 3,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Glenstrae at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Koolama at 2,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Tjisaroea at 2,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Queen Mary at 2,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Poelau Telo at 2,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Queen Mary at 2,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Santhia at 2,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Koolama at 2,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Tjisaroea at 2,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Kota Radja at 2,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Queen Mary at 2,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Glenstrae at 2,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Queen Mary at 2,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAK Hupeh at 2,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAK West Cawthon at 2,000 yards
xAK Glenaffric collides with xAK Birchbank at 41 , 147
CA Chokai engages xAP Queen Mary at 2,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAP Queen Mary at 2,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Queen Mary at 2,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Queen Mary at 2,000 yards
xAP Glenstrae sunk by CA Chokai at 2,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Santhia at 2,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAP Koolama at 2,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Tjisaroea at 2,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Queen Mary at 2,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Poelau Telo at 2,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Queen Mary at 2,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Khandalla at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
DD Nagatsuki engages xAP Koolama at 3,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Queen Mary at 3,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Queen Mary at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
xAK Anatina collides with xAK Birchbank at 41 , 147
CA Chokai engages xAP Queen Mary at 2,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Kota Radja at 2,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Poelau Telo at 2,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Santhia at 2,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Khandalla at 2,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAK Gamaria at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Koolama at 7,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Kota Radja at 7,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Santhia at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CA Chokai engages xAP Queen Mary at 13,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAP Queen Mary at 13,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Santhia at 13,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Queen Mary at 13,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Queen Mary at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 17,000 yards
xAK Clan Macbrayne collides with xAK Benledi at 41 , 147
CA Chokai engages xAP Queen Mary at 17,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAP Queen Mary at 17,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Queen Mary at 17,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Queen Mary at 17,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Queen Mary at 17,000 yards
Range increases to 20,000 yards
CA Chokai engages xAP Queen Mary at 20,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAP Queen Mary at 20,000 yards
CA Chokai engages xAP Poelau Telo at 20,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAP Queen Mary at 20,000 yards
DD Oboro engages xAP Khandalla at 20,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAP Rohna at 20,000 yards
DD Ushio engages xAK Hupeh at 20,000 yards
DD Amagiri engages xAK West Cawthon at 20,000 yards
Watanabe, Seishichi orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 26,000 yards
xAK Nirvana collides with xAK Birchbank at 41 , 147
xAP Koolama sunk by CA Chokai at 26,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAP Poelau Telo at 26,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAK Gamaria at 26,000 yards
Range increases to 30,000 yards
CA Chokai engages xAP Poelau Telo at 30,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAP Poelau Telo at 30,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAP Rajula at 30,000 yards
CA Chokai engages xAK Don Isidro at 30,000 yards
CA Atago engages xAK Susan Luckenbach at 30,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Air Combat

Continued air battles over Kalemyo!

Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 58
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 99

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed, 38 damaged

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
35 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking 14th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking XV Indian Corps ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 23
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 26
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 63

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 31
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Morning Air attack on 50th Tank Brigade, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 12 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on II/81st Naval Guard Unit, at 120,150 (Luganville)
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-20A1 Havoc x 8

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A-20A1 Havoc bombing from 12000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on II/81st Naval Guard Unit, at 120,150 (Luganville)
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 22

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x P-39D Airacobra bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x P-39D Airacobra bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x P-39D Airacobra bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on 33rd Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9
Blenheim VD x 9
Hudson IIIa x 9

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Blenheim VD bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
9 x Blenheim IV bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
9 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
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God Save the Queen

The Queen Mary is given a tonnage of 46000 tons in game but on this page she is listed as 80000 tons?
http://www.atlanticliners.com/rms_queen_mary_home.htm

It's also quite disturbing to see how much ammo is required to sink a few unarmored ships; torpedoes were wasted from 16000 yards and hundreds of shells
were pumped into blazing hulks while a mere dozen shells would suffice. When the warships closed to 2000 yards most torpedoes were already spent...




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RE: NEWSFLASH; Queen Mary sunk! - 11/21/2010 4:43:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Andy keeps doing things like this.... Very suboptimal ship mix.

Nevermind the xAKs and xAPs with a 12 to 14 knot speed just what is the AO Tan doing in a convoy with the Queen Mary? He obviously just dumps all ships available into a convoy without ever thinking to optimise his convoys be grouping ships of similar endurance and speed together.

Really this is another example of very sloppy play where he doesn't bother to optimise his forces.... Of course not everyone would be in position to punish such sloppiness so kudos to you PzB. Really he only got what he deserved though... P.s I agree re: the torpedo usage code vs merchies.

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Queen Mary sunk! - 11/21/2010 4:58:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PzB
God Save the Queen

The Queen Mary is given a tonnage of 46000 tons in game but on this page she is listed as 80000 tons?
http://www.atlanticliners.com/rms_queen_mary_home.htm

It's been explained many times before. Tonnage is not loaded displacement.

But perhaps it bears repeating. Tonnage is not loaded displacement. Tonnage is a calculated value that defines what ports a ship can dock at and what size yards are required to fix it. Tonnage is not loaded displacement. Tonnage for non-warship types has a well defined mathematical correspondance to ship size and Light Ship Tonnage. Tonnage is not loaded displacement.

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Queen Mary sunk! - 11/21/2010 5:08:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmm. I think I read somewhere that tonnage is not loaded displacement.

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Queen Mary sunk! - 11/21/2010 5:47:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Only one word... wow!  That was once more a good blend of excellent strategical play with a good shot of luck, which was partially "donated" by a little careless Andy.  Queen Lizzy down means there must be quite a party at the Imperial Navy headquarters in Tokyo!  Congrats!

Nemo is quite right, Andy should be more careful with organizing his convoy, and hopefully from now on will direct more capital ships including BBs to rearward and LOC security -- if so, you might bind many times your raider forces with such operations, which is almost as good as defeating them on the front line!  If not, keep hunting...  Long term you might loose a raider TF with that, but with such successes already on your list, they might already be amortized...


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RE: NEWSFLASH; Queen Mary sunk! - 11/21/2010 8:08:40 PM   
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RE: NEWSFLASH; Queen Mary sunk! - 11/21/2010 8:21:54 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Ah yes, I thought briefly about that; a bit confused when they refer to tonnage and displacement weight.

Indeed; Andy should not have sent fast and slow ships together in a straight line out of Perth.
It is possible that he wanted to get the ships out of Dodge asap, but even a slight detour to the south would have been enough.
He must be very low on escorts, 3-4 destoyers would have saved lots of ships today.

We'll see Janh, not sure he will change his ways and divert capital ships to guard his convoys.
This may provide us with further openings though!

This turn our surface ships engaged 2! enemy convoys..but being low on ammo they didn't even want to engage
Just a dozen shells, even 25mm shells, would have sufficed to sink a shedload of ships.
- A sub picked of a single ship though.

Continued heavy air attacks in Burma.
Let's give Kalemyo all we got, constantly! Doesn't seem like Andy can cause us much harm doing so.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 08, 43

Surface & Sub Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Perth at 42,146, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CA Chokai
DD Amagiri
DD Oboro
DD Ushio
DD Nagatsuki

Allied Ships
xAP President Madison
xAK Trieste
xAK West Cawthon
xAK Henry S Grove
xAK Santa Teresa
xAK Steel Engineer
xAK Susan Luckenbach
xAK Mormacrey
xAK San Anselmo
xAK Crown City
xAK Clevedon
xAK Eldorado
xAP Talma
xAP Tilawa
xAP Rajula, on fire
xAK African Prince
xAK Catrine
xAK Elysia
xAK Empire Raja
xAK Filleigh
xAK Halizones
xAK Hoihow
xAK Hunan
xAK Jaladuta
xAK Jalajaran
xAK Jalaratna
xAK Khandalla
xAK Maldive
xAK Neleus
xAK Nirpura
xAK Nirvana
xAK Pundit
xAK Sirsa
xAK Stanmore
xAK Taiping
xAK Tanfield
xAK Wo Sang
xAK Wulin
xAK Admiral Chase
xAK Adrastus
xAK Anglo Canadian
xAK Appleleaf
xAK Autolycus
xAK Barala
xAK Benledi
xAK City of Agra
xAK Clan Mactaggart
xAK Clan Macwhirter
xAK Daisy Moller
xAK Dalgoma
xAK Elmdale
xAK Empire Grenfell
xAK Empire Plover
xAK Esperance

Reduced sighting due to 14% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 14% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat
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Submarine attack near Perth at 43,147

Japanese Ships
SS I-11

Allied Ships
xAK Subadar, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Subadar is sighted by SS I-11
SS I-11 launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Subadar
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Perth at 42,145, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CA Chokai
DD Amagiri
DD Oboro
DD Ushio
DD Nagatsuki

Allied Ships
TK William Sunoco
xAK Charles H Cramp
xAK Kingswood
xAP Mijer
PC Tydeman
TK Anastasia

Reduced sighting due to 14% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 14% moonlight: 4,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 35

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 25
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 26
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 9
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 90

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 26 damaged

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 55

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 29th British Brigade ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking XV Indian Corps ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 14th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
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Morning Air attack on Guards Tank Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3
Blenheim VD x 11
Hudson IIIa x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson IIIa: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Blenheim VD bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
10 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
68th Sentai/C with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
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Morning Air attack on Guards Tank Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
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Morning Air attack on II/81st Naval Guard Unit, at 120,150 (Luganville)
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 22

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Morning Air attack on 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 23
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
34 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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RE: NEWSFLASH; Queen Mary sunk! - 11/21/2010 8:31:49 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Heavy air battles over Burma again!
We're winning the A2A battles with a 2-1 and 3-1 ratios and very few pilots are killed.

Another deliberate attack goes in with much the same results as before.
Another Bde has reinforced the enemy but we're fighting smaller enemy LCU's with larger divisions and have an edge there.
Losses are more encouraging; 1-2 despite a 1-2 odds may indicate that the enemy's defenses are hurting.

Another regiment joined our forces today; in total I can deploy another division, 2 more regiments a tank bde and 2 tank regiments.
The reduced units will again rotate back to Rangoon. We got 6 more weeks of campaigning so let's remove as many commonwealth squads as possible.
- May take them a long time to replace them.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 09, 43

Sub Attacks

This merchant was loaded with fuel drums...boom!
Obviously another incoming convoy. Wish we had more firepower here now.

Sub attack near Perth at 45,147

Japanese Ships
SS I-32

Allied Ships
xAK Charles H Cramp, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Mijer

SS I-32 launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Charles H Cramp
I-32 diving deep ....
Sub escapes detection
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 31

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 21

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 26
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 23
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 26
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 30
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 154

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 88 damaged

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 8 (3 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 83

Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 4th Marine Regiment ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking XV Indian Corps ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 6th Heavy AA Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
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Morning Air attack on 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 26

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 5
Spitfire Vc Trop x 4
P-38G Lightning x 9
P-40E Warhawk x 5
P-40K Warhawk x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed, 14 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 57

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 5
Spitfire Vc Trop x 4
P-38G Lightning x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 3
P-40K Warhawk x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
29 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on 65th Brigade, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Blenheim VD x 11
Hudson IIIa x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 53rd Division ...
Also attacking Imperial Guards Division ...
Also attacking 65th Brigade ...
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Morning Air attack on 38th Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 9

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bombs
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Morning Air attack on II/81st Naval Guard Unit, at 120,150 (Luganville)
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 23

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 70111 troops, 831 guns, 983 vehicles, Assault Value = 2579
Defending force 31605 troops, 663 guns, 1044 vehicles, Assault Value = 913

Japanese adjusted assault: 1519
Allied adjusted defense: 1822

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3248 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 271 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 266 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 66 (2 destroyed, 64 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1367 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 126 disabled
Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 87 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled

Assaulting units:
65th Brigade
79th Infantry Regiment
7th Burma Militia Regiment
33rd Division
6th Tank Regiment
53rd Division
4th Raiding Rgt /1
2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division
2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment
38th Division
1st Tank Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
6th Guards Division
22nd Recon Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
112th Infantry Regiment
3rd Raiding Rgt /1
21st Army

Defending units:
4th Marine Regiment
16th British Brigade
14th British Brigade
7th Australian Division
2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
29th British Brigade
26th Indian Brigade
14th Indian Division
6th Heavy AA Regiment
17th Indian Light AA Regiment
13th Indian Light AA Rgt /1
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
XV Indian Corps
8th Belfast Heavy AA Rgt /1
19th USN Naval Construction Battalion
1st KNIL AA Bn /1
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RE: NEWSFLASH; Queen Mary sunk! - 11/21/2010 8:34:25 PM   
Cribtop


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Status: offline 		Great job with the raiders. The launch of long lances at 16,000 yards in daytime combat makes me crazy. Might as well not have torpedoes if the AI routines fire them at those ranges.

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Queen Mary sunk! - 11/21/2010 11:17:24 PM   
PzB74


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New turn, new actions!

I've mentioned Efate before: It's now a size 2 AF and building.
Only 1 base force unit there and Noumea, a size 2 base, is the only support in range.

So here we go: first bombardments to close down Efate - tomorrow we land more than enough troops to secure the island.
Enemy airplanes from Noumea harassed our destroyers; at least we know what to expect. A small Mutsuki class destroyer (expandable) took a hit and
will retire to Luganville.

While our subs sank a cargo ship at Efate an enemy sub sank a loaded cargo ship, so Andy knows we're coming.
Not much he can do about it though. After Efate we will turn towards Noumea and New Caledonia; a full fledged division is loaded and the KB will support the invasion.
7 enemy LCU's spotted but not a lot of firepower. Figure that 1-2 bombardments will close it down.

Let's see what we can get into the bag..my biggest concern is enemy subs but not much to do about that. ASW TFs lead the way and plenty of ASW ac on the ships.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 10, 43

A bit annoyed; sent 2 destroyer squadrons with higher speed into Efate.
What happens? The Yamato bombardment group goes in first to engage PT boats

Sub and Surface Combat / Bombardments

Night Time Surface Combat, near Efate at 120,154, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato
BB Musashi
CL Sendai
DD Akigumo
DD Makigumo
DD Makinami
DD Naganami
DD Natsugumo
DD Yamagumo
DD Minegumo

Allied Ships
PT-20
PT-22
PT-23

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 32% moonlight: 9,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
DD Yamagumo engages PT-22 at 8,000 yards
DD Akigumo engages PT-23 at 8,000 yards
Allied TF attempts to disengage
Range increases to 9,000 yards
DD Makigumo engages PT-23 at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
DD Yamagumo engages PT-22 at 10,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages PT-22 at 10,000 yards
DD Makigumo engages PT-23 at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
DD Yamagumo engages PT-22 at 11,000 yards
DD Makigumo engages PT-20 at 11,000 yards
Allied TF attempts to disengage
Task forces break off...
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Submarine attack near Busselton at 48,148

Japanese Ships
SS I-32

Allied Ships
xAK Elmdale, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Elmdale is sighted by SS I-32
SS I-32 attacking xAK Elmdale on the surface
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Night Naval bombardment of Efate at 120,154

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi
BB Yamato
CL Sendai
DD Minegumo
DD Yamagumo
DD Natsugumo
DD Naganami
DD Makinami
DD Makigumo
DD Akigumo

Allied ground losses:
171 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 80
Port hits 13
Port supply hits 1

F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Musashi
BB Musashi firing at Efate
BB Yamato firing at Efate
CL Sendai firing at Efate
DD Minegumo firing at 3rd RNZAF Base Force
DD Yamagumo firing at 3rd RNZAF Base Force
DD Natsugumo firing at Efate
DD Naganami firing at 3rd RNZAF Base Force
DD Makinami firing at 3rd RNZAF Base Force
DD Makigumo firing at 3rd RNZAF Base Force
DD Akigumo firing at Efate
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Submarine attack near Efate at 120,154

Japanese Ships
SS RO-60, hits 4

Allied Ships
xAK Hoegh Merchant, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Hoegh Merchant is sighted by SS RO-60
SS RO-60 attacking on the surface
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Sub attack near Luganville at 118,150

Japanese Ships
xAK Tsuyama Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
PB Hakata Maru #7
xAK Osaka Maru
xAK Zinzan Maru
xAK Ryujo Maru
xAK Yamabuki Maru
xAK Hokkai Maru
xAK Yahiko Maru
xAK Thames Maru
xAK Liverpool Maru
DD Akikaze
E W-19

Allied Ships
SS Skipjack

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

SS Skipjack launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Tsuyama Maru
Skipjack diving deep ....
DD Akikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akikaze cannot establish contact with SS Skipjack
DD Akikaze cannot reach attack position over SS Skipjack
E W-19 fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Efate at 120,154, Range 15,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kisaragi
DD Yayoi
DD Uzuki
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
PT-20
PT-22
PT-23

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages PT-23 at 13,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages PT-22 at 13,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages PT-20 at 13,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages PT-23 at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages PT-22 at 10,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages PT-23 at 10,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages PT-23 at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages PT-20 at 9,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages PT-22 at 9,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages PT-20 at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 14,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages PT-23 at 14,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages PT-23 at 14,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages PT-20 at 14,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages PT-22 at 14,000 yards
Range increases to 17,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages PT-23 at 17,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages PT-20 at 17,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages PT-22 at 17,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 23
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 26
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 21
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 86

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed, 56 damaged

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking XV Indian Corps ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 13
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 26 damaged

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
28 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking Kalemyo ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 14th Indian Division ...
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Morning Air attack on 50th Tank Brigade, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 29th British Brigade ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Efate at 120,154
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 47 minutes


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 1
SBD-3 Dauntless x 13
TBF-1 Avenger x 5

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Uzuki
DD Satsuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Mutsuki
DD Kisaragi

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 4000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
9 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Efate at 120,154
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson III (LR) x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Mutsuki
DD Kisaragi

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Efate at 120,154
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 57 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 1
TBF-1 Avenger x 5

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Satsuki, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kisaragi

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 2000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 4000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Fubuki(I) class DD
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Efate at 120,154
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson III (LR) x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Shirayuki

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
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South Pacific

This is more or less a hit and run operation.
- Destroy as much as possible, leave a small garrison and get out.




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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/22/2010 8:07:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: PzB


Oh no, I've learned; the KB will not be squandered - all we need to do is to stay clear of major enemy LBA concentrations.
Andy has hardly more than a couple of carriers operational plust a waddle of CVEs, hardly a threat to the KB.


you shouldn´t underestimate the CVEs! If Andy puts them with his fleet this can give him more fighters than all the KB fields. The only thing about CVEs is their "slow" speed, I never understood why people really bother about speed because 99.9 out of 100 moves happen at normal speed anyway and if you have to do a full speed run you can do that with the CVs alone and the CVEs will catch up one turn later. Put 15 CVEs with the fleet carriers and you end up with something like 300-400 Hellcats more (depending on using VR squadrons as combat squadrons or not - again, I wouldn´t bother using them as VR but rather as fleet Cap).


The speed is not important when just tooling around the Pacific. What matters is what happens when you get into battle. At that point their slow speed makes them sitting ducks for every Tomiko, Dicko, and Harriko-san with a bomb. You get into a carrier duel and they are going to die, regardless of how much CAP they can add. And at that point, all that CAP will be gone.





I definetely preferre having a 500 Hellcat Cap and some "slow" CVEs over 250-300 Cap and only fleet carriers. What you shouldn´t forget is the fact that if you have two or three CV TFs and one with CVE is that in probably three out of four times the CVE TF isn´t attacked at all if the enemy has a good DL as the attack routine will then pick the CV TFs and not target the CVE at all. If you put CVE together with the CV, well that´s another story then.

I would bet on a better result with the CVE compared to no CVE because all the CVE do most times is sharing their Hellcats and some additional Avengers. And even if a strike attacks the CVE TF then I´m still glad that this wave attacks the CVE TF and not put my CV under. And there seems to be quite a substantial difference between 250 Hellcats or 400-500 Hellcats on Cap. My last carrier engagement saw me not losing a single ship with 400+ Hellcats on Cap and KB´s air arm was shred (guess more than a hundred bombers made it through Cap though). Without the 200 Hellcats from CVE that I had I bet my carriers would have been whiped out. The CVE TF wasn´t even targetted. But to each his own...

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Carrier battle! - 11/22/2010 8:11:50 AM   
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They will only die if the enemy bombers get through the CAP relatively unscathed.

I'll take 400 additional fighters in vulnerable CVEs over no additional fighters ANY day.



can only agree, even if it would take some 15-20 CVE to add 400 Hellcats which Andy probably won´t have. 400 additional fighters would probably account for another 150-200 enemy aircraft shot down and that´s quite a number IMO. AE has made a big step forward in regards to Cap but numbers still do count a lot.

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Queen Mary sunk! - 11/22/2010 8:37:14 AM   
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Andy O Andy. What are you doing?



at times I think Andy took over some habits from the AI...

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RE: NEWSFLASH; Queen Mary sunk! - 11/22/2010 9:12:14 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Interesting turn; we unload at Efate - the place is quiet and airfields closed.
Our carriers sink a handful of loaded fuel and troop carriers at Noumea; no enemy ac in the air.

I suspect Andy has packed Noumea with too many ac and is in the progress of both airlifting reinforcements and bolstering the islands
bomber capacity. New intel reveal 10 units and 10k men there. Before we start invading Noumea I need to know more about the garrison there.
Yes, we got a full sized division so any small hodge podge of units would be doable.

But first we need to close down the airfields so tomorrow our bombardment TFs will head in and try to wreck the place.
We'll repeat this process and follow up with the KB to ensure the fields are closed before we make a final decision whether to invade or not.

What's your thoughts about this?

Another ground combat in Burma and another even odds; truly need a high roll combined with an enemy low roll.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 11, 43

Sub Attacks

Submarine attack near Perth at 46,147

Japanese Ships
SS I-32

Allied Ships
xAK Clan Macinness, Torpedo hits 3, heavy damage

xAK Clan Macinness is sighted by SS I-32
SS I-32 launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Clan Macinness
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Invasions

Pre-Invasion action off Efate
14 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Kitakami
DD Yanagi
PB Toshi Maru #2
PB Hakata Maru #7
PB Choun Maru #8
xAK Osaka Maru
AV Kiyokawa Maru
DD Akikaze

CL Kitakami firing at 3rd RNZAF Base Force
DD Yanagi firing at 3rd RNZAF Base Force
PB Toshi Maru #2 fired at enemy troops
PB Hakata Maru #7 fired at enemy troops
PB Choun Maru #8 fired at enemy troops
DD Yanagi fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards
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Amphibious Assault at Efate
TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Efate, 120,154

Japanese ground losses:
208 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 66 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 15th/C Div /1
20 troops of a IJA HMG Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 15th/C Div /1
10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 15th/C Div /1
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 15th/C Div /1
20 troops of a IJA HMG Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 15th/C Div /1
10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 15th/C Div /1
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 15th/C Div /1
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 15th/C Div /3
10 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 1st Infantry Rgt /8
10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 15th/C Div /11
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on TF, near Noumea at 115,160
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
A6M3a Zero x 17
B5N2 Kate x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Thomas Nelson, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Juan Cabrillo, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 12 (7 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 22 (9 destroyed, 13 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
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Morning Air attack on Efate , at 120,154
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 6
G4M1 Betty x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
19 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on 50th Tank Brigade, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 9
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 26
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 30
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 14 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Noumea at 115,160
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
A6M3a Zero x 17
B5N2 Kate x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Evi Livanos, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Peter Silvester, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 7 (3 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 17 (9 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 71717 troops, 850 guns, 981 vehicles, Assault Value = 2471
Defending force 29324 troops, 602 guns, 1041 vehicles, Assault Value = 826

Japanese adjusted assault: 1150
Allied adjusted defense: 1162

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3510 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 101 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 175 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Vehicles lost 47 (7 destroyed, 40 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
882 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 72 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 39 (6 destroyed, 33 disabled)

Assaulting units:
65th Brigade
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
53rd Division
79th Infantry Regiment
4th Raiding Rgt /1
24th Infantry Regiment
2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
112th Infantry Regiment
22nd Recon Regiment
38th Division
1st Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
7th Burma Militia Regiment
2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment
Guards Tank Division
2nd Tank Regiment
6th Guards Division
33rd Division
6th Tank Regiment
3rd Raiding Rgt /1
21st Army

Defending units:
2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment
4th Marine Regiment
26th Indian Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
29th British Brigade
7th Australian Division
14th Indian Division
17th Indian Light AA Regiment
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
XV Indian Corps
19th USN Naval Construction Battalion
6th Heavy AA Regiment
13th Indian Light AA Rgt /1
8th Belfast Heavy AA Regiment
1st KNIL AA Bn /1
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