The Name of the Game

Matrix Games Forums

Forums Register Login Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ

My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums Log Out

The Name of the Game

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> Gary Grigsby's War in the East Series >> The Name of the Game

Page: [1]

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

The Name of the Game - 11/27/2010 11:40:17 AM

MacSporran

Posts: 5
Joined: 11/27/2010
Status: offline

Hi - new here - and am really looking forward to the game but I have a question. Why is it called

Gary Grigsby�s War in the East: The German-Soviet War 1941-1945

when a much more apt name would be

Gary Grigsby�s War in the East: The Axis-Soviet War 1941-1945

??

The reason I ask is that when I sent the link to a friend of mine , who is a confirmed Italianophile, he queried that.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Post #: 1

RE: The Name of the Game - 11/27/2010 11:55:19 AM

karonagames

Posts: 4712
Joined: 7/10/2006
From: The Duchy of Cornwall, nr England
Status: offline

With respect to all the other nations involved, the Germans and the Russians were the only ones that fought the whole war from 1941 to 1945. The Hungarians may have had some isolated units in existence at the end.

It is a reasonable question, but I think the box is now printed.

< Message edited by BigAnorak -- 11/27/2010 11:57:22 AM >

(in reply to MacSporran)

Post #: 2

RE: The Name of the Game - 11/27/2010 11:58:56 AM

Helpless

Posts: 15793
Joined: 8/27/2004
Status: offline

Technically yes, it should be Axis (although not all Axis powers were at state of war with SU), but in many official docs (including Soviet) it was called Soviet-German, eg. SGF - Soviet German Front. So current name wouldn't be historically incorrect as well.

_____________________________

Pavel Zagzin
WITE/WITW/WITE-2 Development

(in reply to MacSporran)

Post #: 3

RE: The Name of the Game - 11/27/2010 12:05:40 PM

warspite1

Posts: 41353
Joined: 2/2/2008
From: England
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: MacSporran

Hi - new here - and am really looking forward to the game but I have a question. Why is it called

Gary Grigsby�s War in the East: The German-Soviet War 1941-1945

when a much more apt name would be

Gary Grigsby�s War in the East: The Axis-Soviet War 1941-1945

??

The reason I ask is that when I sent the link to a friend of mine , who is a confirmed Italianophile, he queried that.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Warspite1

Two things spring to mind:

No one doubts (unless we move into Irving

territory) WWII was Germany's war - and in particular Hitler's obsession for Lebensraum.

The fact that a sad individual like Mussolini and a hotchpotch of "minor nations" joined with Germany for a variety of their own reasons, does not alter that fact.

Secondly, the German effort compared to the Italian, Spanish, Finnish, Romanian, Slovakian et al combined, simply dwarfed the efforts of the other Axis nations.

You could liken it to the Desert War where the British Army fought the Germans. In fact, you could make the case for it being the Empire or Commonwealth Army + Assorted Czechs, Poles + Free French!!

EDIT: sorry forgot the Hungarians

< Message edited by warspite1 -- 11/27/2010 12:06:42 PM >

_____________________________

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

(in reply to MacSporran)

Post #: 4

RE: The Name of the Game - 11/27/2010 12:16:33 PM

sitito

Posts: 92
Joined: 1/2/2010
From: Spain
Status: offline

Correct me, but i think that all the german allies involved in the east front were under control of the OKW, so they were an extension of the german army.

(in reply to warspite1)

Post #: 5

RE: The Name of the Game - 11/27/2010 12:41:16 PM

MacSporran

Posts: 5
Joined: 11/27/2010
Status: offline

Thanks for the replies guys - I value the responses. I understand that the game will be marketed as it is just now.
I was merely curious. I'll feed the answers back to my friend.

Cheers!!

(in reply to sitito)

Post #: 6

RE: The Name of the Game - 11/27/2010 12:46:12 PM

Helpless

Posts: 15793
Joined: 8/27/2004
Status: offline

quote:

Correct me, but i think that all the german allies involved in the east front were under control of the OKW, so they were an extension of the german army.

Not all and not always. Ex. Finnish High Command was very independent.

_____________________________

Pavel Zagzin
WITE/WITW/WITE-2 Development

(in reply to sitito)

Post #: 7

RE: The Name of the Game - 11/27/2010 3:48:45 PM

sitito

Posts: 92
Joined: 1/2/2010
From: Spain
Status: offline

quote:

quote:

Correct me, but i think that all the german allies involved in the east front were under control of the OKW, so they were an extension of the german army.

Not all and not always. Ex. Finnish High Command was very independent.

Touch�

(in reply to Helpless)

Post #: 8

RE: The Name of the Game - 11/27/2010 10:03:18 PM

paullus99

Posts: 1985
Joined: 1/23/2002
Status: offline

The Japanese were also considered part of the "Axis" and weren't involved on the Eastern Front - just a nitpick, but you know how people are.

_____________________________

Never Underestimate the Power of a Small Tactical Nuclear Weapon...

(in reply to sitito)

Post #: 9

RE: The Name of the Game - 11/28/2010 12:15:21 AM

Dukemourn

Posts: 50
Joined: 6/11/2004
Status: offline

Here's another inconsequential title nitpick. To the Soviets it was the War in the West.

(in reply to paullus99)

Post #: 10

RE: The Name of the Game - 11/28/2010 6:34:05 AM

Neal_MLC

Posts: 180
Joined: 2/2/2010
Status: offline