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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 12:19:22 PM

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Hi all,

Wife apparently caught flu... darn... I am still hodling on...

Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 12:21:26 PM

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Hi all,

Wife apparently caught flu... darn... I am still hodling on...

Leo "Apollo11"

Be careful, Leo... I hear "hodling" can actually bring on flu faster...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 12:22:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

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Bad day at the office...

Kristian, what is the story behind this picture?

When is it from (1060's)?

Leo "Apollo11"

Doubtful, there wasn't a US Navy back then

Warspite1

So thats the only reason why Harold lost

... William the Conqueror obviously sought help from the US - that's cheating

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 12:26:13 PM

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Hi all,

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Bad day at the office...

Kristian, what is the story behind this picture?

When is it from (1060's)?

Leo "Apollo11"

USN A4E damaged by a North Vietnamese SAM. When the pilot came back to his carrier and found out his main gear units wouldn't deploy, he ejected and was picked up by his ship's plane guard helo. Was back flying the next day.

The incident happened in April 1967 to a VA-212 airplane, flying off the USS Bon Homme Richard.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 12:33:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Bad day at the office...

Kristian, what is the story behind this picture?

When is it from (1060's)?

Leo "Apollo11"

USN A4E damaged by a North Vietnamese SAM. When the pilot came back to his carrier and found out his main gear units wouldn't deploy, he ejected and was picked up by his ship's plane guard helo. Was back flying the next day.

The incident happened in April 1967 to a VA-212 airplane, flying off the USS Bon Homme Richard.

Warspite1

So nothing to do with the Battle of Hastings after all then.....?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 1:17:25 PM

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What is the story behind the name Bonne Home Richard anyway? It seems like a very peculiar name for a US CV.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 1:21:15 PM

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What is the story behind the name Bonne Home Richard anyway? It seems like a very peculiar name for a US CV.

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Panzerjaeger Hortlund - this is from my draft write-up of that ship for the World In Flames counters:

.P USS Bon Homme Richard is an unusual name for a US Navy warship but there have
been four ships by that name to date, beginning with a frigate during the
American War of Independence. The name was given to an ex-French ship that was then
given to the US to assist the war against the British. She was subsequently re-named in
honour of Benjamin Franklin - who was the American Commissioner in Paris at the
time and who wrote a journal - Les Maximes du Bonhomme Richard - whilst there.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 1:31:20 PM

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G'mornin' dudes...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 2:34:24 PM

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And don't get me started on those back seat wallahs who just prod buttons all day.

I also take offense at your implied description of me as a maintainer. I am a technician.

Some of us had to maintain and operate the kit.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 2:44:03 PM

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Home.

Band Hero drumkit fixed.

Interview on Tuesday.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 3:45:53 PM

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 3:51:08 PM

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And don't get me started on those back seat wallahs who just prod buttons all day.

I also take offense at your implied description of me as a maintainer. I am a technician.

Some of us had to maintain and operate the kit.

But if you broke it you had to fix it. Not like these glory boys

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 4:25:07 PM

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What is the story behind the name Bonne Home Richard anyway? It seems like a very peculiar name for a US CV.

One of the naming conventions for the War-II CVs was sailing era ships that won notable victories. Thus Wasp, Hornet, Enterprise, Ranger, Essex, Intrepid, Franklin, Hancock, Boxer, and Bon Homme Richard. Was originally Revolutionary and 1812 period, but Kearsarge got in there somehow (probably due to some stinking Yankee Senator from New England

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 4:42:50 PM

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But if you broke it you had to fix it.

It just came off in my hand. Honest.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 5:02:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: JWE

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ORIGINAL: Panzerjaeger Hortlund
What is the story behind the name Bonne Home Richard anyway? It seems like a very peculiar name for a US CV.

One of the naming conventions for the War-II CVs was sailing era ships that won notable victories. Thus Wasp, Hornet, Enterprise, Ranger, Essex, Intrepid, Franklin, Hancock, Boxer, and Bon Homme Richard. Was originally Revolutionary and 1812 period, but Kearsarge got in there somehow (probably due to some stinking Yankee Senator from New England ).

Interesting. And a much better naming convention than the present one. Presidents...I mean wtf.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 5:31:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: Panzerjaeger Hortlund

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ORIGINAL: JWE

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ORIGINAL: Panzerjaeger Hortlund
What is the story behind the name Bonne Home Richard anyway? It seems like a very peculiar name for a US CV.

One of the naming conventions for the War-II CVs was sailing era ships that won notable victories. Thus Wasp, Hornet, Enterprise, Ranger, Essex, Intrepid, Franklin, Hancock, Boxer, and Bon Homme Richard. Was originally Revolutionary and 1812 period, but Kearsarge got in there somehow (probably due to some stinking Yankee Senator from New England ).

Interesting. And a much better naming convention than the present one. Presidents...I mean wtf.

I don't mind naming them after long deceased presidents-USS Washington, USS Lincoln, USS Roosevelt, etc. I do not appreciate the unfortunate recent precedence of naming ships after very recent (and still living) US Presidents. If you've gotta be dead to be on a dollar bill denomination, the same should apply to ships.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 5:33:57 PM

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Our ships are mostly named after places, dukes, royalty or just butch sounding names, eg Indefatigable, Warspite, Indominatable, former Admirals (Hood, Howe, etc) or flowers.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 5:49:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: Panzerjaeger Hortlund
What is the story behind the name Bonne Home Richard anyway? It seems like a very peculiar name for a US CV.

One of the naming conventions for the War-II CVs was sailing era ships that won notable victories. Thus Wasp, Hornet, Enterprise, Ranger, Essex, Intrepid, Franklin, Hancock, Boxer, and Bon Homme Richard. Was originally Revolutionary and 1812 period, but Kearsarge got in there somehow (probably due to some stinking Yankee Senator from New England ).

Interesting. And a much better naming convention than the present one. Presidents...I mean wtf.

I don't mind naming them after long deceased presidents-USS Washington, USS Lincoln, USS Roosevelt, etc. I do not appreciate the unfortunate recent precedence of naming ships after very recent (and still living) US Presidents. If you've gotta be dead to be on a dollar bill denomination, the same should apply to ships.

The buck stops, or starts, with Harry Truman. He allowed the Midway class CVB-42 to be renamed Franklin D. Roosevelt in May 1945 when his predecessor was barely in the ground. At least that one was reasonable, given FDR's oversized presence in naval affairs in the war.

The recent carriers are named after recent presidents to drum up political support among their supporters to get the things built, I think.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 5:57:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: Panzerjaeger Hortlund

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ORIGINAL: Panzerjaeger Hortlund
What is the story behind the name Bonne Home Richard anyway? It seems like a very peculiar name for a US CV.

One of the naming conventions for the War-II CVs was sailing era ships that won notable victories. Thus Wasp, Hornet, Enterprise, Ranger, Essex, Intrepid, Franklin, Hancock, Boxer, and Bon Homme Richard. Was originally Revolutionary and 1812 period, but Kearsarge got in there somehow (probably due to some stinking Yankee Senator from New England ).

Interesting. And a much better naming convention than the present one. Presidents...I mean wtf.

Yeah, well, silly politicians must have their say. I wish it were otherwise. I wish our Naval High Command were more sailors than bureaucrats, and remembered that orgasmic thrill the first time they stepped on the deck of "their" ship and made that pairing that was closer then they had with their wife. Back then they "knew". Oh, yes, they "knew". The ship was alive. The ship was as alive and as sentient as they were. She was wife, she was mother, she was lover, and she knew what her name was and what was expected of her.

I "know" that ships are people too, and I "know" that they have the same emotions and pride that men do. Having a "name" that has some history, and a cause for for emulation, will indeed get that extra knot, or that extra pound of reserve bouyancy out of the gal. Proud tradition gives both men and ships that extra ounce of internal fortitude that, if it doesn't result in victory, leads to honor and respect upon receipt by the deep.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 6:15:24 PM

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Morning tithe.

Well, its technically afternoon.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 6:22:02 PM

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Our ships are mostly named after places, dukes, royalty or just butch sounding names, eg Indefatigable, Warspite, Indominatable, former Admirals (Hood, Howe, etc) or flowers.

Its the flowers that really put fear in the heart of the enemy.

I find the OOB of pre-Napoleonic RN ships much more pleasing to the ear when they names ships after mythological figures. Sounded like a nation of intelligent, educated people.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 6:23:30 PM

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Home.

Band Hero drumkit fixed.

Interview on Tuesday.

Huh?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 6:23:32 PM

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But if you broke it you had to fix it.

It just came off in my hand. Honest.

Rodney Dangerfield:

"I went to have a cup of coffee this morning and the handle of the mug came off in my hand. I picked up my briefcase to go to work and the same thing happened. I tried to leave the house and the door knob came off in my hand. I'm afraid to go to the bathroom!"

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 6:29:32 PM

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I also take offense at your implied description of me as a maintainer. I am a technician.

I would have gone with "very annoyed" but of course you know best.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 6:30:41 PM

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Just did some lazy surfing around. Found one picture worth sharing;

Caption; The Swedish airplane cruiser HMS Gotland in the Caribbean, 1936.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 6:39:42 PM

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Its the flowers that really put fear in the heart of the enemy.

Well ask the U-boat commanders of WWII if they were pleased to confront the flower-class corvettes......

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I find the OOB of pre-Napoleonic RN ships much more pleasing to the ear when they names ships after mythological figures.

Plenty of those post Napoleon too - Scylla and Charybdis - being a couple of good examples.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 6:45:43 PM

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Our ships are mostly named after places, dukes, royalty or just butch sounding names, eg Indefatigable, Warspite, Indominatable, former Admirals (Hood, Howe, etc) or flowers.

Or when you build too many submarines, anything beginning with the relevant letter

HMS Shakespeare, HMS Truant, HMS Trusty, HMS Sea Scout. Or HMS Teredo, named after a species of woodworm

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 6:48:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: Dixie

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ORIGINAL: sprior

Our ships are mostly named after places, dukes, royalty or just butch sounding names, eg Indefatigable, Warspite, Indominatable, former Admirals (Hood, Howe, etc) or flowers.

Or when you build too many submarines, anything beginning with the relevant letter

HMS Shakespeare, HMS Truant, HMS Trusty, HMS Sea Scout. Or HMS Teredo, named after a species of woodworm

Warspite1

Or irrelevent letter - we built too many U-class subs for the number of useful words beginning with U - so some were named with the letter V at the front!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 6:54:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: sprior

Our ships are mostly named after places, dukes, royalty or just butch sounding names, eg Indefatigable, Warspite, Indominatable, former Admirals (Hood, Howe, etc) or flowers.

Or when you build too many submarines, anything beginning with the relevant letter

HMS Shakespeare, HMS Truant, HMS Trusty, HMS Sea Scout. Or HMS Teredo, named after a species of woodworm

Warspite1

Or irrelevent letter - we built too many U-class subs for the number of useful words beginning with U - so some were named with the letter V at the front!

Flexibility you see. A lesser navy would've either made up words or stopped building

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 2/6/2011 6:56:11 PM

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My trick to have the japanese into sending out massive waves on ACs againt my carriers in Downfall and beeing shot down by CAP and escorts from Ivo have stopped working. They didnt send any planes last time i did it.

I am in the process of securing Okinawa and sending engineers from PH and the west coast to places were they can build fine bases. At the moment Guam, Trinitan, Ivo and the rest of the islands in that group is BADLY overstacked with bombers. Its gone so far that i have moved all nonessential ACs to bases were they are out of th way like Leyte, after all, its only parking there and no flying.

HEY, what do you know. We actually have clear sky were i live ATM

Downfall is an interesting scenario. It is a different type of challenge for both sides. There is a huge number of units for both sides. An almost overwhelming number for the Allies. And for the Japanese it fun to see how much damage one can inflict ( I am currenty alternating between both sides ) .

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