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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 12:46:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		JJ has become accustomed to recon aircraft only at Nadi.....that has just changed. The aggressive B-17 raids have caused them to cease fighter sweeps over Nadi




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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 5:54:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hiryu just showed up on the sunk list from the fight for Fiji. I beleive that Zuikaku may also show up soon as two decks almost certianly slipped under based on carrier based "operational losses" in the days around the battle. IIRC Shokaku was reported hit badly in the Fiji fight but had already been sunk in the fight for New Scotland. It was more likely Zuikaku was hit in the Fiji fight. We have had the same problem with Ryujo and Zuiho

One or two more CA's are reported sunk from the New Scotland battles.




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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 5:58:10 AM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 9:57:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		So that's 4, out of 8-ish. I wonder who those gits west of Perth were then? Seems a lot to risk for some merchies. Chacun son goût I guess.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 1:29:46 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 1:56:19 PM   
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The whole thing makes my head hurt trying to remember. I think I wrote it down but my Mayan housekeeper probably thought it was a laundry list and put it in the drawer with my Allen wrenches...wherever they are.


She probably thought it was a list of Japanese hookers you were to rendezvous with in Vegas and hid it so you wouldn't get in trouble with the Mrs.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 2:03:39 PM   
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How long does it take before you can be sure that they are actually sunk? Is it a fixed period or variable?


Very, very variable.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 6:11:34 PM   
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The whole thing makes my head hurt trying to remember. I think I wrote it down but my Mayan housekeeper probably thought it was a laundry list and put it in the drawer with my Allen wrenches...wherever they are.


She probably thought it was a list of Japanese hookers you were to rendezvous with in Vegas and hid it so you wouldn't get in trouble with the Mrs.


I took the risk anyway but couldn't get through the whole list. After "Frying Dragon" got done with me I had to cancel out on "Fortunate Crane". I just wanted an ice pack.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 6:28:38 PM   
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So that's 4, out of 8-ish. I wonder who those gits west of Perth were then? Seems a lot to risk for some merchies.


I would wager that was Admirar Rord David-san with Akagi and Kaga, from whom we have not heard for some time. Maybe next time he tries that he will run into the Combined Fleet and a there will be heap big banyan. When it is time for Weasel, if we could attrit Port Headland airfield by air before pushing off and lead with the transports, we might be able to bait down Kaga and Akagi and score a 7 on 2 carrier fight far away from Koepang and Darwin and the other big Jap bases.. My guess is they have divided the remaining carriers between commands. We could show the US carriers in the South Pacific shortly beforehand and then send them towad Perth. It would be reasonable for JJ to assume that Port Headland was our main target. If our effort looked feeble enough it might excite their predator-prey instincts.

Of course, they could be baiting us with the 2 carrier raid but I think not as there was at least one carrier (Shokaku) and probably 2 in Noumea Harbor as of July 20.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 6:34:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		By ra way. Port Headland has 10 units of Little Yellow Bastards. It might take more than East Africa Brigade to take it.

Perhaps Derby is poorly guarded. JJ has not built up the airfield there. My guess is Port Headland is going to have CD guns and serious fortifications by now.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 7:04:20 PM   
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How long does it take before you can be sure that they are actually sunk? Is it a fixed period or variable?
You know you sunk something when you suddenly see a bunch of carrier a/c show up as ground losses. As previously mentioned, when the actual ship name shows up can be a long time.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 7:16:34 PM   
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So that's 4, out of 8-ish.


If you refer to his Imperial majesty's HIJMS fleet of aircraft carriers, you're mistaken, round eyes. It wouldn't be hard to put together some 13+ flight decks by mid-summer 1942, but before the Unryus roll out in late 1943.

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Chacun son goût I guess.

You and your son have gout? I'm sorry to hear that. I confess that I am puzzled why you chose to share that information here and in this context though.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 7:18:37 PM   
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By ra way. Port Headland has 10 units of Little Yellow Bastards. It might take more than East Africa Brigade to take it.

Perhaps Derby is poorly guarded. JJ has not built up the airfield there. My guess is Port Headland is going to have CD guns and serious fortifications by now.

Hmmm...the plot thickens. Looks like he's massively reinforced Hedland. What's Geraldton looking like then?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 10:57:27 PM   
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By ra way. Port Headland has 10 units of Little Yellow Bastards. It might take more than East Africa Brigade to take it.

Perhaps Derby is poorly guarded. JJ has not built up the airfield there. My guess is Port Headland is going to have CD guns and serious fortifications by now.

Hmmm...the plot thickens. Looks like he's massively reinforced Hedland. What's Geraldton looking like then?


This train wreck has a plot?

You need to fire your writers.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/1/2011 11:01:55 PM   
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By ra way. Port Headland has 10 units of Little Yellow Bastards. It might take more than East Africa Brigade to take it.

Perhaps Derby is poorly guarded. JJ has not built up the airfield there. My guess is Port Headland is going to have CD guns and serious fortifications by now.

Hmmm...the plot thickens. Looks like he's massively reinforced Hedland. What's Geraldton looking like then?


This train wreck has a plot?

You need to fire your writers.



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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/2/2011 12:55:23 AM   
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By ra way. Port Headland has 10 units of Little Yellow Bastards. It might take more than East Africa Brigade to take it.

Perhaps Derby is poorly guarded. JJ has not built up the airfield there. My guess is Port Headland is going to have CD guns and serious fortifications by now.

Hmmm...the plot thickens. Looks like he's massively reinforced Hedland. What's Geraldton looking like then?


This train wreck has a plot?

You need to fire your writers.


I don't know what to say Admiral Lord Sprior. We sweat and revise and revise and sweat to achieve a stream of consciousness style in the fashion of Joyce and Dos Pasos and Kerouac and they just don't get it. It's like taking pre-school kids to a Holst concert. They can take it for about 45 seconds before they want to go play in the sink the men's room or get some Jolly Ranchers at the "candy counter".

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/2/2011 1:15:04 AM   
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Youre right, I'm not impressed.


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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/2/2011 2:38:04 AM   
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Youre right, I'm not impressed.



Honestly, I'm not sure I could last more than 90 seconds myself, then I would fake a page or something and go get a drink.

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Wacht am Palembang - 3/2/2011 4:30:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		We are not really going to attack in Sumatra. I just put up the title to creep out the Imperial High Command.

What really happened is the Mayan knew it was close to Stalker Girl's birthday and I think my sister-in-law told the Mayan how old Stalker Girl is ...so I pick up the Mayan at my sister-in-law's house and we are driving home and she says something like "Doctor! Me parece que Stalker Girl es mas vieja que {redacted}"...or..."It seems to me that Stalker Girl is older than {redacted}"

Santa Maria! (We are back to me talking) That is absolutely nuclear. It like banging together two subcritical pieces of U-235! I didn't tell Stalker Girl, though I was tempted because I really do enjoy girl fights. I was; however, worried about liability after I cancelled my umbrella policy.

Anyway, when we get home the Mayan says to Stalker Girl, "Joo boortday?"

Stalker Girl replies; "Yes Savina, {redacted}"

"Yo tengo {redacted + dos}" and smiles broadly (from my perspective this was a clearly meant as a challenge, a sort of "look how much better preserved I am").

I am standing over in the corner making myself a Hendrick's martini just waiting to see the flash of blue light when criticality is reached. Then the phone rang and the control rods were dropped.

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RE: Wacht am Palembang - 3/2/2011 5:04:52 AM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/2/2011 12:41:28 PM   
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Youre right, I'm not impressed.



Honestly, I'm not sure I could last more than 90 seconds myself, then I would fake a page or something and go get a drink.



His stuff just sounds like the score from every 80s adventure movie I've ever seen. IDK, maybe I just dont have a sophisticated enough musical ear.

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RE: Wacht am Palembang - 3/2/2011 12:44:25 PM   
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We are not really going to attack in Sumatra. I just put up the title to creep out the Imperial High Command.

What really happened is the Mayan knew it was close to Stalker Girl's birthday and I think my sister-in-law told the Mayan how old Stalker Girl is ...so I pick up the Mayan at my sister-in-law's house and we are driving home and she says something like "Doctor! Me parece que Stalker Girl es mas vieja que {redacted}"...or..."It seems to me that Stalker Girl is older than {redacted}"

Santa Maria! (We are back to me talking) That is absolutely nuclear. It like banging together two subcritical pieces of U-235! I didn't tell Stalker Girl, though I was tempted because I really do enjoy girl fights. I was; however, worried about liability after I cancelled my umbrella policy.

Anyway, when we get home the Mayan says to Stalker Girl, "Joo boortday?"

Stalker Girl replies; "Yes Savina, {redacted}"

"Yo tengo {redacted + dos}" and smiles broadly (from my perspective this was a clearly meant as a challenge, a sort of "look how much better preserved I am").

I am standing over in the corner making myself a Hendrick's martini just waiting to see the flash of blue light when criticality is reached. Then the phone rang and the control rods were dropped.


You canceled your umbrella policy? With your household?!?!

Youre a brave man.

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RE: Wacht am Palembang - 3/2/2011 2:18:09 PM   
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Then the phone rang and the control rods were dropped.


A good SCRAM

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/2/2011 2:19:07 PM   
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By ra way. Port Headland has 10 units of Little Yellow Bastards


I think we need better recon first.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 3/2/2011 3:43:57 PM   
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I think we need better recon first.


Agreed, I am unpacking a detachment of recon P-38's at Wellington. I will send them over to Oz. When Geraldton is ready I can send over some SouPac B-17's for recon bombardment. I will send VII Bomber HQ to Oz too.

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Wacht am Palembang - 3/2/2011 3:49:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think the LYB cruisers closing with 240 mi of Nadi was bait to get me to send aircraft to Nadi. They moved back out and Admirar Rord Nerson sent some Sallys to bombard the airfield.

I ordered the transports back with their surface escort. JJ could sprint in for a night battle but they would be taking a huge risk as any damaged ships would be at risk for destruction by air when the sun comes up. B-17's will rest for another attack on Tanna.




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RE: Wacht am Palembang - 3/2/2011 3:51:07 PM   
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We are not really going to attack in Sumatra. I just put up the title to creep out the Imperial High Command.

What really happened is the Mayan knew it was close to Stalker Girl's birthday and I think my sister-in-law told the Mayan how old Stalker Girl is ...so I pick up the Mayan at my sister-in-law's house and we are driving home and she says something like "Doctor! Me parece que Stalker Girl es mas vieja que {redacted}"...or..."It seems to me that Stalker Girl is older than {redacted}"

Santa Maria! (We are back to me talking) That is absolutely nuclear. It like banging together two subcritical pieces of U-235! I didn't tell Stalker Girl, though I was tempted because I really do enjoy girl fights. I was; however, worried about liability after I cancelled my umbrella policy.

Anyway, when we get home the Mayan says to Stalker Girl, "Joo boortday?"

Stalker Girl replies; "Yes Savina, {redacted}"

"Yo tengo {redacted + dos}" and smiles broadly (from my perspective this was a clearly meant as a challenge, a sort of "look how much better preserved I am").

I am standing over in the corner making myself a Hendrick's martini just waiting to see the flash of blue light when criticality is reached. Then the phone rang and the control rods were dropped.

An outstanding choice!

No, not cancelling your umbrella insurance (are you mad?), but a Hendrick's Gin martini. Nummy.

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Wacht am Palembang - 3/2/2011 3:55:33 PM   
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So that's 4, out of 8-ish.


If you refer to his Imperial majesty's HIJMS fleet of aircraft carriers, you're mistaken, round eyes. It wouldn't be hard to put together some 13+ flight decks by mid-summer 1942, but before the Unryus roll out in late 1943.



Do tell. Are you refering to CV's only or all flight decks? We did sink a CVL and CVE as well.

Assuming they had pressed hard for CV's, where would the air complements come from? Are there enough Vals, Kates and Zeroes or do they take surviving Daitai from lost carriers?

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RE: Wacht am Palembang - 3/2/2011 4:27:56 PM   
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So that's 4, out of 8-ish.


If you refer to his Imperial majesty's HIJMS fleet of aircraft carriers, you're mistaken, round eyes. It wouldn't be hard to put together some 13+ flight decks by mid-summer 1942, but before the Unryus roll out in late 1943.



Do tell. Are you refering to CV's only or all flight decks? We did sink a CVL and CVE as well.

Assuming they had pressed hard for CV's, where would the air complements come from? Are there enough Vals, Kates and Zeroes or do they take surviving Daitai from lost carriers?

I'm referring to all flight decks-CV, CVL, CVE. Not counting CS use of float fighters. I'll have to do a 'headcount' at home tonight. Offhand, the count includes KB (obviously), a couple of other CVs, 3 CVLs and 3-4 CVEs.

The CVs and CVLs have their own organic air wings on board. Airframes are not typically a problem at this stage of the war (pre-1946 ) for the IJNAF.

I believe that all the CVEs need air complements added from the home islands. This is no biggy, as there are some unrestricted air units in the home islands that can be 'parted out' and loaded onto the CVEs. From there, they can 'expand' appropriately to fit the CVE accordingly.

ETA: Paying PP for 'lost' air units takes ~180 days to reenter the fracas, IIRC. These will be useful for subsequent naval operations, but probably not for a while yet at the pace of your game.

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RE: Wacht am Palembang - 3/3/2011 7:15:26 AM   
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I was, however, worried about liability after I cancelled my umbrella policy.

I am standing over in the corner making myself a Hendrick's martini.



You canceled your umbrella policy? With your household?!?!

Youre a brave man.


I could understand a decision cancelling the umbrella policy after imbibing 5 or so Hendrick's Martinis, but to cancel it beforehand? Brave? maybe not. Crazy? Quite possibly!

Remember, Cap, Frau Braun and the HOA are still out there gunning for you...

I'd reinstate the policy



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