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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 11:54:57 AM   
DivePac88


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Status: offline 		Hi Guys hope everyone is well, and there turns are treating them well. I am still in Hospital, but should be out in another two weeks maybe. Well the bad news is I have been diagnosed with an Endocrine tumour, and it is inoperable. But the good news is that it is that there are several treatments to arrest and retard this growth.

So I've started on the first treatment, which involves me learning to, and injecting myself twice a day with a drug. This drug call Octreotide will arrest the growth, and stop the tumour doing some other nasty things. Then all I have to do is put some body weight back on, and I can go home.

I’ll start posting regularly again on the Thread/Forum when I get home. So you guys all have a nice day, and I’ll be back as my annoying self soon.

Des.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 11:55:57 AM   
DivePac88


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 12:20:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey DivePac,

Sorry to hear your news, but great to see your attitude.  Hang in there and keep fighting.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 12:27:48 PM   
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Hey DivePac,

Sorry to hear your news, but great to see your attitude.  Hang in there and keep fighting.


+1

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 12:34:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi DivePac,

Glad to hear you'll be able to go home soon and also "grace us with your presence" once more. Here's hoping for a successful treatment for your tumor, mate.

FWIW, I think you should start by spelling your "tumour" as "tumor"-the American version. See? You've already shrunk the size of it!

Get well soon, dude.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 12:48:06 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 12:48:45 PM   
USSAmerica


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Hey DivePac,

Sorry to hear your news, but great to see your attitude.  Hang in there and keep fighting.


+1


+2

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 12:54:53 PM   
Apollo11


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ORIGINAL: DivePac88

Hi Guys hope everyone is well, and there turns are treating them well. I am still in Hospital, but should be out in another two weeks maybe. Well the bad news is I have been diagnosed with an Endocrine tumour, and it is inoperable. But the good news is that it is that there are several treatments to arrest and retard this growth.

So I've started on the first treatment, which involves me learning to, and injecting myself twice a day with a drug. This drug call Octreotide will arrest the growth, and stop the tumour doing some other nasty things. Then all I have to do is put some body weight back on, and I can go home.

I’ll start posting regularly again on the Thread/Forum when I get home. So you guys all have a nice day, and I’ll be back as my annoying self soon.

Des.


Best of luck and best wishes Des!


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 12:55:28 PM   
sprior


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ORIGINAL: USS America


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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso


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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Hey DivePac,

Sorry to hear your news, but great to see your attitude.  Hang in there and keep fighting.


+1


What they said.

+2



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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 12:56:16 PM   
sprior


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Hi DivePac,

Glad to hear you'll be able to go home soon and also "grace us with your presence" once more. Here's hoping for a successful treatment for your tumor, mate.

FWIW, I think you should start by spelling your "tumour" as "tumor"-the American version. See? You've already shrunk the size of it!

Get well soon, dude.


But then his sense of humour would be diminished too.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 1:48:48 PM   
Onime No Kyo


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I'd like to join your cheering section, Des. We may not have the short skirts or shapely legs but we have boundless enthusiasm.


(I'd post a picture but that might cause the world to end).

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 2:33:25 PM   
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Might?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 2:47:12 PM   
Apollo11


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Time to go home from work tithe...


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 3:11:10 PM   
Onime No Kyo


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Might?


Well yes. Unless you subscribe to that unified theory of everything.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 3:20:56 PM   
rtrapasso


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Love to see the source of that claim. Cats are desert creatures. Turkey has nothing similar.


Cats are desert creatures?? i've never heard that before... and while i've seen lots of feral cats, they generally are not associated with the desert... i suppose you could argue what constitutes a desert (i.e. savanna might be called a desert by some.)

Remember: when the cat cults of Egypt came around, Egypt wasn't a desert (pretty much happened in the past couple of thousand years, i think).

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 3:36:33 PM   
rtrapasso


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Status: offline 		Looking into this cat business some more: there are a number of species/subspecies thought to be possible progenitors to the current Felis catus, only one is associated with the desert. Most are associated in the wild with woods, jungles, mountains.

This from Wiki:

"As The New York Times wrote in 2007, "Until recently the cat was commonly believed to have been domesticated in ancient Egypt, where it was a cult animal", but a study that year revealed that the lines of descent of all house cats probably run through as few as five self-domesticating African Wildcats (Felis silvestris lybica) c. 8000 BC, in the Near East. The earliest direct evidence of cat domestication is a kitten that was buried alongside a human 9,500 years ago in Cyprus."

Again, 10+ K years ago, the most of the middle east was not the desert it is now (or so 'tis thought).

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 3:59:00 PM   
rtrapasso


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Status: offline 		Between Chickens and Grapes:

The number of genes that humans have was estimated at 6.7 million in 1984... current estimate is around 22000... chickens have ~16736 protein encoding genes, and grapes 30,434...

Shoot... we are arguably less advanced than grapes...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 4:07:54 PM   
witpqs


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ORIGINAL: DivePac88

Hi Guys hope everyone is well, and there turns are treating them well. I am still in Hospital, but should be out in another two weeks maybe. Well the bad news is I have been diagnosed with an Endocrine tumour, and it is inoperable. But the good news is that it is that there are several treatments to arrest and retard this growth.

So I've started on the first treatment, which involves me learning to, and injecting myself twice a day with a drug. This drug call Octreotide will arrest the growth, and stop the tumour doing some other nasty things. Then all I have to do is put some body weight back on, and I can go home.

I’ll start posting regularly again on the Thread/Forum when I get home. So you guys all have a nice day, and I’ll be back as my annoying self soon.

Des.


Good news! We'll hold you to that promise on posting more, too.

And do listen to Chickenboy's advice - he claims to have a blood alcohol content of 9.9%!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 4:13:54 PM   
witpqs


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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Looking into this cat business some more: there are a number of species/subspecies thought to be possible progenitors to the current Felis catus, only one is associated with the desert. Most are associated in the wild with woods, jungles, mountains.

This from Wiki:

"As The New York Times wrote in 2007, "Until recently the cat was commonly believed to have been domesticated in ancient Egypt, where it was a cult animal", but a study that year revealed that the lines of descent of all house cats probably run through as few as five self-domesticating African Wildcats (Felis silvestris lybica) c. 8000 BC, in the Near East. The earliest direct evidence of cat domestication is a kitten that was buried alongside a human 9,500 years ago in Cyprus."

Again, 10+ K years ago, the most of the middle east was not the desert it is now (or so 'tis thought).


It's quite well established it was not a desert, just as you say. In what is now a vast region of desert there is a Roman city in the middle of what was an agricultural center. Lots of other evidence: animals like the hippopotamus used to be native to places currently desert, and so on.

"self-domesticating African Wildcats" - well that just must be them! "Pardon me. I'm here now, so I own the house but don't worry - I will permit you to be my domestic servants."

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 4:15:41 PM   
witpqs


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Between Chickens and Grapes:

The number of genes that humans have was estimated at 6.7 million in 1984... current estimate is around 22000... chickens have ~16736 protein encoding genes, and grapes 30,434...

Shoot... we are arguably less advanced than grapes...


I forget the number of genes, but IIRC plants like wheat (a grass) have at least 2 or 3 times the number of chromosomes as humans. Now, cows eat grass, so in relation to us...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 4:22:43 PM   
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Between Chickens and Grapes:

The number of genes that humans have was estimated at 6.7 million in 1984... current estimate is around 22000... chickens have ~16736 protein encoding genes, and grapes 30,434...

Shoot... we are arguably less advanced than grapes...


I forget the number of genes, but IIRC plants like wheat (a grass) have at least 2 or 3 times the number of chromosomes as humans. Now, cows eat grass, so in relation to us...

So, are you trying to say that the FEWER genes a species has the more advanced it is? That would put chickens ahead of us... and make Chickenboy possibly the most advanced person here (evolutionarily speaking...)

And that would also imply E. coli and the influenza virus have us beat by a large margin (4,169 and 11 genes, respectively).

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 4:36:25 PM   
sprior


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We may not have the short skirts or shapely legs


says who?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 4:41:04 PM   
witpqs


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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Between Chickens and Grapes:

The number of genes that humans have was estimated at 6.7 million in 1984... current estimate is around 22000... chickens have ~16736 protein encoding genes, and grapes 30,434...

Shoot... we are arguably less advanced than grapes...


I forget the number of genes, but IIRC plants like wheat (a grass) have at least 2 or 3 times the number of chromosomes as humans. Now, cows eat grass, so in relation to us...

So, are you trying to say that the FEWER genes a species has the more advanced it is? That would put chickens ahead of us... and make Chickenboy possibly the most advanced person here (evolutionarily speaking...)

And that would also imply E. coli and the influenza virus have us beat by a large margin (4,169 and 11 genes, respectively).


No! I'm saying that Gary Larson (The far Side) was right - cows are the dominant species!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 5:22:27 PM   
Apollo11


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Good afternoon!


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 5:23:06 PM   
Onime No Kyo


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We may not have the short skirts or shapely legs


says who?


I stand corrected. At least one of us wears short skirts. Still no word on the shapely legs, however.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 5:28:40 PM   
Onime No Kyo


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Love to see the source of that claim. Cats are desert creatures. Turkey has nothing similar.


Cats are desert creatures?? i've never heard that before... and while i've seen lots of feral cats, they generally are not associated with the desert... i suppose you could argue what constitutes a desert (i.e. savanna might be called a desert by some.)

Remember: when the cat cults of Egypt came around, Egypt wasn't a desert (pretty much happened in the past couple of thousand years, i think).



I was watching a show called The Science of Cats on NG Wild. They were following a group from UC Davis that was doing a genetic study by analyzing samples of domestic cat saliva sent in by volunteers woldwide.

They found that the area of southeastern Turkey exhibits the biggest genetic variation of any place in the world.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 6:59:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso


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ORIGINAL: Mynok


Love to see the source of that claim. Cats are desert creatures. Turkey has nothing similar.


Cats are desert creatures?? i've never heard that before... and while i've seen lots of feral cats, they generally are not associated with the desert... i suppose you could argue what constitutes a desert (i.e. savanna might be called a desert by some.)

Remember: when the cat cults of Egypt came around, Egypt wasn't a desert (pretty much happened in the past couple of thousand years, i think).


The martian is right. He should know-his type have made felidae a dietary staple of theirs for millenia now.

Much of feline anatomy / physiology supports development in an arid climate-whether that's a desert per se I'll leave up to you. Their renal function and its efficiency are certainly examples reflective of long-term adaptation to this enviroment.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 7:02:19 PM   
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"self-domesticating African Wildcats" - well that just must be them! "Pardon me. I'm here now, so I own the house but don't worry - I will permit you to be my domestic servants."

Yep. Sounds about right. The evolutionary apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 7:06:19 PM   
Chickenboy


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So, are you trying to say that the FEWER genes a species has the more advanced it is? That would put chickens ahead of us... and make Chickenboy possibly the most advanced person here (evolutionarily speaking...)

And that would also imply E. coli and the influenza virus have us beat by a large margin (4,169 and 11 genes, respectively).

While I concur with rtrapasso's conclusion about my advanced hybrid chicken/human persona (evolutionary speaking of course) , "advanced" is a very subjective term. The number of genes in a given organism is a non-correlate to how advanced an organism is. There's lots of other schemata for determining how 'advanced' an organism is relative to others.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 3/30/2011 7:07:08 PM   
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We may not have the short skirts or shapely legs


says who?





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