michaelm75au
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ORIGINAL: asdicus Did you have save from before Pakhoi became your main supply hub?? michaelm I have save games available going all the way back to the start of my latest pbm game. The game is now is April 1942 and china has more supplies than I know what to do with ! I have even turned on industry repair at Chungking and Changsha. I have never had to ship any supplies by sea from india to rangoon - they all move by land. The supplies in china are moving by land either from burma and/or india (via Pakhoi ??). I think this problem arises because the allies hold burma and this is allowing supplies to flow in large amounts to china. This save is from 4 march 1942 pakhoi has only 1k supply rangoon 295k all from india. michaelm have you had chance to look at these save files regarding the excess flows of supply by land into burma and china ? My pbm game is now up to june 1942 and my jap opponent is pretty cross about the amount of supply the chinese have available ! I can't stop the supply flow into china but we have agreed some houserules to restrict the allies ops in china. I am sure the problem arises because the allies hold burma/rangoon hence many pbm games do not have this problem. If you look at the yellow dots supply from rangoon can easily reach into mid china via the tracks. Are you/the developers sure that supply should flow so easily and in such large quantities for long distances along tracks or through jungle/mountain terrain ? If you like any more save files please let me know. Currently running 1108m5 beta. Did I miss the saves?? The last few betas revised the way that resoure/supply flowed, so as limit the daily movement. I think from memory, the supply state in China was already high before you moved to those betas. If there isn't anywhere for the supply in China to go, which could be the case now with revised flow, then it will most likely stay in China. If you want to add a current save or two, I can produce the base flow stats again to see where it is being pulled/pushed to. I must have missed this one. Can you repost?? quote:
This save is from 4 march 1942 pakhoi has only 1k supply rangoon 295k all from india. michaelm this save is from 4 march 1942 Using 1108m6 program... The final numbers at Pakhoi are Supply: 2k, Fuel: 31k, Resource: 68k From what I can see, the movement is from China bases, and basically occurs as part of the push to the best local port in range. --- movement in the turn from/to Pakhoi was ------- 1 "Pakhoi" receives 143 supply from "Chungking" (59), store = 1839 req = 665 1 "Pakhoi" receives 44 supply from "Kunming" (55), store = 1839 req = 665 2 "Changsha" receives 10 fuel from "Pakhoi" (72), store = 103 req = 24 2 "Chengtu" receives 682 fuel from "Pakhoi" (44), store = 2606 req = 640 2 "Chungking" receives 1214 resource from "Pakhoi" (59), store = 167530 req = 17890 2 "Chungking" receives 3851 fuel from "Pakhoi" (59), store = 2600 req = 1300 2 "Kunming" receives 677 resource from "Pakhoi" (55), store = 60000 req = 6400 2 "Kunming" receives 1005 fuel from "Pakhoi" (55), store = 1707 req = 400 2 "Sian" receives 5 fuel from "Pakhoi" (26), store = 520 req = 80 Excess push to local ports... 3 "Pakhoi" receives 46 resource from "Chengchow" (40), store = 9071 req = 900 3 "Pakhoi" receives 99 resource from "Hengyang" (74), store = 12036 req = 1200 3 "Pakhoi" receives 184 resource from "Loyang" (38), store = 6302 req = 600 3 "Pakhoi" receives 105 resource from "Kukong" (70), store = 46 req = 0 3 "Pakhoi" receives 271 resource from "Kweiteh" (32), store = 6577 req = 600 3 "Pakhoi" receives 26 resource from "Lanchow" (13), store = 18181 req = 1800 3 "Pakhoi" receives 94 resource from "Nanyang" (36), store = 169 req = 0 3 "Pakhoi" receives 384 resource from "Shaoyang" (72), store = 6150 req = 600 3 "Pakhoi" receives 12320 resource from "Sian" (26), store = 61068 req = 2600 3 "Pakhoi" receives 1745 resource from "Siangtan" (72), store = 6679 req = 600 3 "Pakhoi" receives 2813 resource from "Tienshui" (22), store = 9974 req = 0 3 "Pakhoi" receives 1898 resource from "Tsiaotso" (38), store = 15098 req = 1200 3 "Pakhoi" receives 4875 resource from "Wuchow" (65), store = 20625 req = 1800 3 "Pakhoi" receives 40200 resource from "Pingsiang" (67), store = 19800 req = 0 3 "Pakhoi" receives 2176 resource from "Ankang" (17), store = 10624 req = 0
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Michael
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