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RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 12:34:56 AM   
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RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 1:27:35 AM   
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RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 3:55:49 AM   
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The manual is VERY poor. A disappointment after RUS.


Did you know RUS wasn't really them? I think it was another company that used the Aegod engine - licensed it.

I may be wrong about that, but I think I read it somewhere. If not, I apologize.

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RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 3:59:39 AM   
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RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 4:05:18 AM   
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The web site at gamersgate said Other drm ...

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  • And which company would you buy it from ?

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 8:12:14 AM   
    wosung

     

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    Status: offline     		Gamersgate comes with an installer (but you can save the DL) plus an offline one time activation code (you'll need it for patches, too)

    Ageod website just uses the same offline one time activation code. And FWIW the latter also works for registrating at the Paradox forum.

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 9:37:13 AM   
    Terminus


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    ORIGINAL: hgilmer3


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Terminus

    The manual is VERY poor. A disappointment after RUS.


    Did you know RUS wasn't really them? I think it was another company that used the Aegod engine - licensed it.

    I may be wrong about that, but I think I read it somewhere. If not, I apologize.


    Looks like you're right. The development team was called "Sep Reds", but it was released by (what was then) AGEOD.

    BTW, PoN just appeared on Steam. I'm okay with having bought it direct from the publisher, and the price is the same.

    Can't really complain THAT much when the game is THIS cheap. €20 is not much these days.

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 12:47:59 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Damian,

    I bought the game straight from the Aegod workshop website. It never asked for even the serial number!! I got a zip file, I unzipped it, and was playing...


    At that point, I decided to register the game and clicked the register button on the first screen and it took me to a the paradox website where you register the game.

    So, from my experience, there is NO DRM if you buy it from Aegod's workshop site. I do not know from other websites. Also, if you buy it from Aegod's website, they are giving away the 1898 Spanish American war scenario which was supposed to be for preorder. This is because their workshop is not really set up for preorders so they did this for regular customers.

    To get the scenario, you would have to go to Aegod's forums and PM the developer (Philip Thibault).

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 12:59:44 PM   
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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 2:03:06 PM   
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    Purchase before June 14th at 10AM Pacific Time and receive the Spanish-American War 1898 DLC for Free!

    DLC is available on the Steam version also for free.

    I'm still on the fence about this. I have a fair few grand strategy games and don't seem to have been grabbed by any of them and the icon sits on my desktop for months without being touched...and I am not convinced this wouldn't suffer the same fate.

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 5:21:10 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Judging from the turn limit, it seems hard too finish. I also understand that this is another game that no one, not even the developers, played all the way through. Who knows what kind of trouble awaits near the endgame. I would be very frustrated, too say the least, if the game crashes after the 1200th turn. I will wait a bit, and see how it plays out.

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 6:57:52 PM   
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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/8/2011 8:38:10 PM   
    Fallschirmjager


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    Status: offline     		Meh, I hate to sound like a contraian. But I tried the demo and nothing cicked for me. I like the battles and I like how you build armies and navies. But as far as likes that is where it ends. It is not that this game is bad. It's just that this field of game has another entry in Victoria which does everything else better. The map is better, the economic system is better, the number of events swamp PON. The time period is longer and in PON you can only play as eight nations.

    After some patches and the price drops I might pick this up since I love the time period but the demo did nothing to convince me that it can challenge Victoria for best grand strategy game of the time period.

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/9/2011 2:24:23 AM   
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    ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

    Meh, I hate to sound like a contraian. But I tried the demo and nothing cicked for me. I like the battles and I like how you build armies and navies. But as far as likes that is where it ends. It is not that this game is bad. It's just that this field of game has another entry in Victoria which does everything else better. The map is better, the economic system is better, the number of events swamp PON. The time period is longer and in PON you can only play as eight nations.

    After some patches and the price drops I might pick this up since I love the time period but the demo did nothing to convince me that it can challenge Victoria for best grand strategy game of the time period.


    PoN is not strictly a grand strategy game because it uses operational wargame aspects and that is where it excels. It includes some abstracted grand strategy elements as well but it won't be as "grand" as Victoria. It lacks events because it wants us to play historically and less sandbox as Victoria.

    Victoria on the otherhand is the grand strategy game of the era with abstracted combat.

    It's depends on what you want to play? Detail combat or detailed nation building? Historical or non-historical?

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/9/2011 3:48:57 AM   
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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/9/2011 5:23:02 AM   
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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/9/2011 8:36:59 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Only having 8 nations to play in PON is a big plus for me.

    With only 8, each really feels different and not cloned. And frankly, 19th century wasn't exactly fun for the Minor or Colonized. To make Tibet or Switzerland fun to play you'd have to change the power system far to the ahistorical.

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/9/2011 9:53:48 AM   
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    Status: offline     		100% agreed. The ability to play any nation in Paradox's games is bogus as a selling point.

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/9/2011 6:32:34 PM   
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    ORIGINAL: Terminus

    100% agreed. The ability to play any nation in Paradox's games is bogus as a selling point.


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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/10/2011 9:51:08 AM   
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    Status: offline     		And it's turn based...unlike Paradox's very odd continous time idea...in a grand stratgey game...who thought of that?

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/10/2011 9:54:42 AM   
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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/10/2011 10:02:33 AM   
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    And it's turn based...unlike Paradox's very odd continous time idea...in a grand stratgey game...who thought of that?


    Why not? There will be many years that you will spend waiting for something to happen, for a technology to develop, for money to accumulate.
    Time accelleration is better than clicking END TURN several times.

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/10/2011 10:37:41 AM   
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    It does not work in Hearts of Iron where it goes by hour by hour. I hated that series since I bought the first one a decade ago.

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/10/2011 11:10:36 PM   
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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/11/2011 1:53:28 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Reading on AGEOD's forums, they are looking at DLC that would include more playable nations ("minor") like say 2 new nations per patch as quoted from PhilThib's post...

    "Plans for DLC are definitely in now, and I am not allowed to tell...yet

    What we plan to do hower is to bring new 'minor' nations as playable for free with each patch...may be 2 at a time (which allows us to include some fun things for the added nations too )"

    Now I still don't have this game, but was wondering what it played like? Some say it is a massively souped up Age of Imperialism, while others give a nod to it being a turn-based Vicky. For you guys that already are fooling around with it, what would you say it is more like in comparison?


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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/11/2011 3:10:14 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Never played AoI. Vicky II is a beautiful game. PoN appears more difficult and time consuming to play, which is not a bad thing for some. The 12-turn demo won't convince everyone either.

    I also believe there is a mod to play any other nations and instructions on the forum (I don't have right now) on how to mod it yourself.

    For $20, I had to go for it. It appears to offer so much more than the previous Ageod releases. I hope I am right, as I got bored with their ACW and Nappy releases. But the real question is, will I have the time to play it?

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/11/2011 6:54:03 AM   
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    I don't know, but they're Swedes, so he was almost certainly drunk at the time...




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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/11/2011 9:31:41 AM   
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    Reading on AGEOD's forums, they are looking at DLC that would include more playable nations ("minor") like say 2 new nations per patch as quoted from PhilThib's post...

    "Plans for DLC are definitely in now, and I am not allowed to tell...yet

    What we plan to do hower is to bring new 'minor' nations as playable for free with each patch...may be 2 at a time (which allows us to include some fun things for the added nations too )"

    Now I still don't have this game, but was wondering what it played like? Some say it is a massively souped up Age of Imperialism, while others give a nod to it being a turn-based Vicky. For you guys that already are fooling around with it, what would you say it is more like in comparison?



    The latter.

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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/11/2011 2:56:37 PM   
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    RE: Vainglo, er, Pride of Nations demo is out! - 6/11/2011 7:25:09 PM   
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