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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/18/2011 11:55:10 PM   
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Thanks for pics Kristian!

Very very nice indeed... I didn't think this would be so "polished"... quite impressed BTW...


Yep. The module is an exact copy of the boardgame, all the way from top to bottom.


Kristian, how is Allied countermeasures like HF/DF, Enigma and radar dealt with in game?

Can you do anything about it to counter those Allied techniques that essentially and finally killed the U-Boot menace in spring of 1943?


Leo "Apollo11"


Huff/Duff comes along in War Period 2 (about summer of 1940) and makes it more difficult to assemble Wolfpacks. If you mess up the dice roll enough, the U-Boat calling in other boats can be attacked and sunk because of it. Sounds very realistic to me.

Enigma starts "decaying" (it's a dice roll modifier in the game) and loses effectiveness. You can make a political request to upgrade it from 3- to 4-rotor Enigma which restores it's effectiveness a bit.

Radar is folded into the advance of the game, in as much as it becomes more difficult for U-Boats to move about as the game goes on, and enemy escorts and aircraft become deadlier.

The game ends at the end of the fourth week of April 1943, so there's nothing beyond that.

Pity. IIRC May 1943 was a very black month for the Kriegsmarine underseebooten. I wonder if the exclusion of anything after April was an allusion to there just being nothing but "the void" for submariners to look forward to.


Well, the game is called "Vol. 1", so maybe there's thoughts of a second box. Not much fun as a solitaire game, I would suspect.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/18/2011 11:58:33 PM   
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Thanks for pics Kristian!

Very very nice indeed... I didn't think this would be so "polished"... quite impressed BTW...


Yep. The module is an exact copy of the boardgame, all the way from top to bottom.


Kristian, how is Allied countermeasures like HF/DF, Enigma and radar dealt with in game?

Can you do anything about it to counter those Allied techniques that essentially and finally killed the U-Boot menace in spring of 1943?


Huff/Duff comes along in War Period 2 (about summer of 1940) and makes it more difficult to assemble Wolfpacks. If you mess up the dice roll enough, the U-Boat calling in other boats can be attacked and sunk because of it. Sounds very realistic to me.

Enigma starts "decaying" (it's a dice roll modifier in the game) and loses effectiveness. You can make a political request to upgrade it from 3- to 4-rotor Enigma which restores it's effectiveness a bit.

Radar is folded into the advance of the game, in as much as it becomes more difficult for U-Boats to move about as the game goes on, and enemy escorts and aircraft become deadlier.

The game ends at the end of the fourth week of April 1943, so there's nothing beyond that.


Thanks for info Kristian!

So... the game ends just before the "Black May" (1943 when U-Boots were decisively defeated and when the "Battle of Atlantic" was lost for Germany)...


The 4 rotor Enigma (aka Triton code) was good for Kriegsmarine because Bletchley Park didn't break into it until December 1942 - it was the last "happy period" for U-Boots!

BTW, is game dealing with cryptographic success of the Allies in a way that convoys were diverted from danger (as much as possible) when wolf pack threat was discovered via HF/DF and decrypting?



Leo "Apollo11"


Huff/Duff only works against the specific U-Boat that's shadowing. Cryptography is rolled into spotting chances for the boats; i.e. as German intelligence and code machines get worse, it gets harder for the boats to spot targets and guide in others.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 12:20:25 AM   
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Zsssssssssss time...


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 1:22:38 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 1:33:30 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 1:39:37 AM   
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Yay Schütze!

Isn't that a German dice game?

The only thing more pathetic than quoting oneself on THE THREAD is when one's efforts at really bad puns go unnoticed.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 1:48:23 AM   
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UK city that admitted it had no plans on how to deal with a zombie attack is overrun by zombies:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-13823427

Slackers. CDC has had anti-zombie recommendations in place for several months now.



It's too late... Congress is infested with zombies.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 2:27:12 AM   
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UK city that admitted it had no plans on how to deal with a zombie attack is overrun by zombies:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-13823427

Slackers. CDC has had anti-zombie recommendations in place for several months now.



It's too late... Congress is infested with zombies.


Has been for decades... You don't think Ted Stevens or Strom Thurmond actually LIVED that long, do you? Or that any living, breathing human being can be as orange as John Boener?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 2:27:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Any way, just used the political system in SW for the first time. Now my torpedoes aren't actively working against the war effort any more!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 2:28:46 AM   
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Someone's up late.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 2:30:04 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 5:12:45 AM   
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Well done young Mr McIllroy - time for bed now


He's been fantastic so far, and what a great show of mental toughness to bounce back from The Masters final day collapse so well! The kid is so damned likable, too!

< Message edited by USS America -- 6/19/2011 5:13:31 AM >

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 5:15:02 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 5:16:07 AM   
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Yay Schütze!

Isn't that a German dice game?

The only thing more pathetic than quoting oneself on THE THREAD is when one's efforts at really bad puns go unnoticed.


I noticed it, but not until now, as I just got home a short while ago. Have patience, young grasshopper.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 5:17:09 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 5:26:53 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 5:47:45 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 5:49:08 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 8:04:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good morning and a Happy Fathers Day to all you dads out there.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 8:09:43 AM   
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Good night and a Happy Fathers Day to you as well. 


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 9:03:04 AM   
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Good morning!


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 9:24:00 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 9:24:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus


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Hi all,

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

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ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Thanks for pics Kristian!

Very very nice indeed... I didn't think this would be so "polished"... quite impressed BTW...


Yep. The module is an exact copy of the boardgame, all the way from top to bottom.


Kristian, how is Allied countermeasures like HF/DF, Enigma and radar dealt with in game?

Can you do anything about it to counter those Allied techniques that essentially and finally killed the U-Boot menace in spring of 1943?


Leo "Apollo11"


Huff/Duff comes along in War Period 2 (about summer of 1940) and makes it more difficult to assemble Wolfpacks. If you mess up the dice roll enough, the U-Boat calling in other boats can be attacked and sunk because of it. Sounds very realistic to me.

Enigma starts "decaying" (it's a dice roll modifier in the game) and loses effectiveness. You can make a political request to upgrade it from 3- to 4-rotor Enigma which restores it's effectiveness a bit.

Radar is folded into the advance of the game, in as much as it becomes more difficult for U-Boats to move about as the game goes on, and enemy escorts and aircraft become deadlier.

The game ends at the end of the fourth week of April 1943, so there's nothing beyond that.

Pity. IIRC May 1943 was a very black month for the Kriegsmarine underseebooten. I wonder if the exclusion of anything after April was an allusion to there just being nothing but "the void" for submariners to look forward to.


Well, the game is called "Vol. 1", so maybe there's thoughts of a second box. Not much fun as a solitaire game, I would suspect.


Possibly not, but that's what you get for being the baddies!

I guess that vol.2 could feature different mechanics, thus making April 1943 a logical place to pause.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 9:40:16 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 9:44:07 AM   
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Good morning and a Happy Fathers Day to all you dads out there.
Warspite1

Thanks - same to you. I got some Jellybeans, huzzah! Cherry and Strawberry, my favourite! Off for a nice Sunday lunch later with the family and then home to watch a nice film - i think i'll go for something from Disney-Pixar - followed by the US Open - please don't blow it Rory!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 9:48:45 AM   
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Good morning and a Happy Fathers Day to all you dads out there.
Warspite1

Thanks - same to you. I got some Jellybeans, huzzah! Cherry and Strawberry, my favourite! Off for a nice Sunday lunch later with the family and then home to watch a nice film - i think i'll go for something from Disney-Pixar - followed by the US Open - please don't blow it Rory!


Vanilla fudge and coconut ice Plus a bacon sandwich, hurrah! I'll mostly be sitting at home watching the BTCC this afternoon. Maybe a bit of AE if I'm lucky as well

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 11:17:25 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 11:21:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Watching Series 1 of Dads Army on DVD. Got some nice chiccies* and the Game of Thrones books in a boxed set.

*Should be choccies, Mrs P has yet to present some chiccies. And is unlikely to do so.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 11:22:28 AM   
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Watching Series 1 of Dads Army on DVD. Got some nice chiccies and the Game of Thrones books in a boxed set.


Good choice. I'm partway through the set myself.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/19/2011 11:38:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Couldn't resist any longer and, well, it is Father's Day, so I have treated myself to the British Pacific Fleet book . Shouldn't have really as my book spending has been a little excessive of late, but, as I keep telling the girlfriend, I'm worth it.....

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