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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/7/2011 9:08:29 PM

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A few days ago I started a 1939 campaign during the evening and played till the finish, just before the sun rose.

That is what we wanted to achieve, so thank you for the compliment. ;-)

And I thank you. I really was not sure if PC would have the appeal of PG. It does and with the numerous improvements and new features the game is fantastic. I especially like the new, random bonus unit feature. When I got my first Waffen SS infantry unit I was gleeful. Not long after I received that SS unit several of my tank, infantry and air units started getting medals, such as Iron Cross, second class, which also carries some bonus such as +1, 2 or even 3 for defense(just one example). Now I can look with pride at my units battle histories and see which units are true, elite warriors.

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/12/2011 1:30:25 AM

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Matrix has released at least 3 Panzer General wannabes

I have Operation Barbarossa, but I am not too sure on the other two you are referring to...

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/27/2011 10:33:42 AM

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All I have wanted to do for the last 5 years is play original PG1 -but cannot get it to work on my computer

If this is like it sounds like -good old PG tweaked a little ----------SOLD!

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/27/2011 10:51:16 AM

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All I have wanted to do for the last 5 years is play original PG1 -but cannot get it to work on my computer

Haven't you tried Panzer General Forever? That is basically a remake a of PG1 (and Allied General, and another mod or two), and works on the latest Windows operating systems (e.g. Win7).

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/27/2011 10:54:25 AM

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PGF is made by the same guy - Alex - who is the lead developer on Panzer Corps :) PGF is nice but Panzer Corps is so much better! :)

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/27/2011 1:35:41 PM

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Indeed PGF is great, and Alex made a great job there, but after playing beta PzC I can only say it's harder to go back and play PGF. Alex has done also a great job in PzC.

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/28/2011 6:57:15 AM

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I never played PG so I have a stupid question. Please pardon my newbie questions

How does this differ from say Strategic Command?

Also, can you play PC head to head on the same computer?

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/28/2011 12:40:04 PM

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Also, can you play PC head to head on the same computer?

Hotseat mode is indeed available. A Beta tester at Slitherine gave a good description:

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Strategic and Commander are much more grand strategy games, involving, production, diplomacy, technology and resources.

Panzer Corps has a turn based system and the whole dynamic of the game is based on that, so completely different from what you get from a RTS game. You'll have more planning, more different type of units, stats to look for, etc. It's more chess and it's pedigree are the classical board wargames.

Only Panzer Corps UI, makes it quite easy and challenging for anybody to play it, specially if you're have already some knowledge of WWII, like yourself. Gradually you'll begin to be addicted (you'll learn the "just one more turn" at 4'clock in the morning concept) and at the same time begin to see that's a hard game to master thanks to its subtleties.

It's a game that you'll end developing your own strategy. I'd say if you like HoI there's a great probability of enjoying as well Panzer Corps, even being quite a different game. Well basically PzC is a classic turnbased IGOUGO, hex based tactical strategy game, inspired by the classic PG series.

I think you will understand better if you read the development diaries and have a look at some screenshots here:

http://panzer-corps.com/

The development diaries explain pretty good what the design is behind the game.

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/28/2011 2:29:02 PM

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Thanks Tim! Panzer-corps.com won't load, but you answered my main question about the game.
I don't want to be Albert Speer and Rommel. I want to fight

I am buying

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/28/2011 2:48:28 PM

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I never played PG so I have a stupid question. Please pardon my newbie questions
How does this differ from say Strategic Command?

Never played Strategic Command, but I've played a little "Strategic Command WW1 The Great War". There are some differences between PzC and and SC. PzC plays more at the operational level, you don't have Research or Diplomacy to look after, no micro management. You concentrate your efforts in a single scenario/battle and how you'll win it. It's constantly challenging you. As you can imagine this turns the whole gameplay of PzC to be very different from SC.
It's this high dynamic that draws the whole yourself into the game and makes you become more addicted with each turn.
Of course there are more differences, in rules, strategic thinking, etc. But in spite being a different game you can enjoy both types of games. One does not exclude the other.
PG was a quite unique wargame. PzC follows exactly the same path. In my opinion, it's a true masterpiece of game design.

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I don't want to be Albert Speer and Rommel. I want to fight

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/28/2011 8:31:42 PM

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Thanks Tim! Panzer-corps.com won't load, but you answered my main question about the game.

Yeah, noticed it when posting, the website stuck in a back-up loop, so solved now and the website is online again!

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/28/2011 10:08:00 PM

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Indeed PGF is great, and Alex made a great job there, but after playing beta PzC I can only say it's harder to go back and play PGF. Alex has done also a great job in PzC.

I agree that there is no going back to PGF. EVER. PC is polished, fun and addictive.

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/29/2011 3:08:36 AM

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Indeed PGF is great, and Alex made a great job there, but after playing beta PzC I can only say it's harder to go back and play PGF. Alex has done also a great job in PzC.

I agree that there is no going back to PGF. EVER. PC is polished, fun and addictive.

Tim,

I read though the web site development diaries and learned a lot. It looks like a very cool game and now I am
dying to buy it!

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/29/2011 4:46:05 AM

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I read though the web site development diaries and learned a lot. It looks like a very cool game and now I am
dying to buy it!

I've just finished Battle of France and after a couple hours whole my backs and neck are pain. I lost the sense of time and forget the right posture in front of monitor. Mea culpa.
And no, I'm not teasing you. Soon we beta testers will be without our daily shot and will have to go through the withdrawal symptoms until the game is release.

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/29/2011 5:05:47 AM

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I keep getting neck aches too. For me this bring back the days of CIV3 and the original Panzer General. One thing that adds to this addiction are the battlefield medals, which can increase in strength for the unit receiving the citation. And as stated earlier I love the random bonus units given when you least expect them.

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/29/2011 3:05:42 PM

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You two (beta testers) aren't making my waiting time any easier by talking about this cool game coming out soon......

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/29/2011 4:11:30 PM

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I keep getting neck aches too. For me this bring back the days of CIV3 and the original Panzer General. One thing that adds to this addiction are the battlefield medals, which can increase in strength for the unit receiving the citation. And as stated earlier I love the random bonus units given when you least expect them.

Funny, my neck aches also begun with CIV, only it was the first one back in 91.
Yes the medals and the heroes help in building up the immersion. We feel more sentimental attached to the veteran units.

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You two (beta testers) aren't making my waiting time any easier by talking about this cool game coming out soon......

Sorry.
But it's not also easy for us, to restrain our... hype.
You see, I'm quite curious with what kind of community it will grown around PzC. Specially the modder one.
With future Slitherine's expansions and support, plus mods, I'm just predicting a brilliant future for this game.
Yes, I'm hyped and can't wait the release day.

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/29/2011 4:19:55 PM

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Sorry.
But it's not also easy for us, to restrain our... hype.
You see, I'm quite curious with what kind of community it will grown around PzC. Specially the modder one.
With future Slitherine's expansions and support, plus mods, I'm just predicting a brilliant future for this game.
Yes, I'm hyped and can't wait the release day.

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/29/2011 7:38:32 PM

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You bloody beta testers will be dominating the online battles for a while!

I hope to get some good games going from members on here should be a good time.

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/29/2011 8:17:11 PM

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You bloody beta testers will be dominating the online battles for a while!

aka Spanish Civil War - with the German's testing and employ new tactics.

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/29/2011 8:25:15 PM

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I fear we will be crushed from the regular players. I do decent at PGF, but I still want to play against raw recruits like myself with PC when it releases...yes release under two weeks now

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/30/2011 12:01:35 AM

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I fear we will be crushed from the regular players. I do decent at PGF, but I still want to play against raw recruits like myself with PC when it releases...yes release under two weeks now

Oh, don't you worry. Soon you'll catch us. We, beta testers, don't know everything about the game. There are things that we only know by assuming; the specifics only the developer team knows. So we'll only have the advantage at the very beginning. And because you'll become inevitably addicted to PzC, soon you'll have enough hours of gameplay to beat us.

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/30/2011 1:17:09 AM

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I fear we will be crushed from the regular players. I do decent at PGF, but I still want to play against raw recruits like myself with PC when it releases...yes release under two weeks now

Oh, don't you worry. Soon you'll catch us. We, beta testers, don't know everything about the game. There are things that we only know by assuming; the specifics only the developer team knows. So we'll only have the advantage at the very beginning. And because you'll become inevitably addicted to PzC, soon you'll have enough hours of gameplay to beat us.

Oh how true that we do not know everything about the game. I became so engrossed the first time I played the game I must admit I have not dug to deeply into the engine. I had several hours of work today that I had put off and a deadline was approaching. Yet I could not wait to finish and fire up PC. TEASE TEASE.

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RE: It looks very "PG"! - 6/30/2011 2:41:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: parusski

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ORIGINAL: VPaulus

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ORIGINAL: ccsdc83

I fear we will be crushed from the regular players. I do decent at PGF, but I still want to play against raw recruits like myself with PC when it releases...yes release under two weeks now

Oh, don't you worry. Soon you'll catch us. We, beta testers, don't know everything about the game. There are things that we only know by assuming; the specifics only the developer team knows. So we'll only have the advantage at the very beginning. And because you'll become inevitably addicted to PzC, soon you'll have enough hours of gameplay to beat us.

Oh how true that we do not know everything about the game. I became so engrossed the first time I played the game I must admit I have not dug to deeply into the engine. I had several hours of work today that I had put off and a deadline was approaching. Yet I could not wait to finish and fire up PC. TEASE TEASE.

Ha it should be utterly engrossing in the beginning my free time will suffer tremendously I fear

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