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RE: Next quiz - 6/11/2011 6:40:47 PM   
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You're not even close...

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RE: Next quiz - 6/11/2011 9:21:11 PM   
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Most of them were transports.

Do you know if they counted the RAF raid on the airports at Wilhelmshaven?

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RE: Next quiz - 6/11/2011 9:35:56 PM   
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Do you know if they counted the RAF raid on the airports at Wilhelmshaven?
Warspite1

Wilhelmshaven is in Germany? and this is about German losses in Holland - what am I missing?

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RE: Next quiz - 6/11/2011 10:28:23 PM   
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Not, they did not count that airraid. The count was made by the Germans themselves... And it is true that most of the planes were transports (JU-53's I believe).




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RE: Next quiz - 6/11/2011 10:33:07 PM   
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Not, they did not count that airraid. The count was made by the Germans themselves... And it is true that most of the planes were transports (JU-50's I believe...)



Warspite1

a) can someone please explain what raid, and what that has to do with the question - I am not getting it?
b) JU-52 surely

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RE: Next quiz - 6/12/2011 12:14:32 AM   
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You're not even close...

I suspected that, but think how amazing it would have been if I'd got it. I would have had to log out and go out to buy lottery tickets.

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RE: Next quiz - 6/12/2011 5:02:11 PM   
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The RAF raided Wilhelmshaven arround this time period and I wondered if the air losses were included in the Luftwaffe losses.

Yes they were mostly Transportgruppen JU-52's.


Glad your using Luftwaffe and not Militaire Luchtvaart totals Centuur.

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RE: Next quiz - 6/12/2011 7:47:03 PM   
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I"m using the total number before salvage and repairs the Germans were able to do after the capitulation of the Dutch forces. The Germans did manage to repair about 50% of the planes used in the airlandings... Even taking that into account, it is still a lot to lose over five days of war...

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RE: Next quiz - 6/16/2011 4:33:22 PM   
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Time to tell them the answer Centuur

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RE: Next quiz - 6/16/2011 10:21:39 PM   
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The amount stated by Dutch sources is about 575 airplanes which were put out of action. The German count was 270 destroyed and about 300 damaged, but repairable after the conquest of the Netherlands. This also explains the different numbers showing. A larger problem for the Germans was, that the Dutch took the liberty of putting a lot of aircrews and the officers of the German invading paratroopers they captured on a couple of ships with a one way ticket to Britain... The Germans were more concerned with the partial loss of the officers of the Para division and the pilots, than with the actual loss of the planes.

A lot of planes were repairable, because the Germans were landing the airlandingdivisions troops everywhere between The Hague and Rotterdam at the second day of the fighting. The airfields were blocked by to many airplanewrecks. A lot of the planes landed outside the airfields and simply sank in mud, or got damaged landinggears etc. etc. Some of them landed on beaches around The Hague and on the road between Rotterdam and The Hague (there they were simply destroyed by a few Dutch armoured cars and some heavy building equipment). The Dutch simply couldn't spare the troops and equipment to totally destroy the planes at that time.

At the end of the fifth day of fighting, a lot of the paratroopers north of Rotterdam were rounded up by Dutch forces (but there were still some Para's isolated around the city) and the airfields around The Hague were back in Dutch control. At Rotterdam however, the airport and the large bridges were controlled by Students Para's, which also did capture the bridges at Dorddrecht and Moerdijk on the first two days of the war. Just before the bombardment on the city of Rotterdam, a German Panzerdivision advanced from Brabant accross those bridges and reached the southern part of the city of Rotterdam. Since the defences of the Dutch were therefore seriously compromised (the road to The Hague and Amsterdam was open for the Germans, General Winkelman capitulated. Just after that, the Germans bombed the city.

Looking at the five days of fighting in the Netherlands a couple of things really stands out.
The first is that the percentage of deaths and wounded soldiers in the Dutch army the five days of the war is the about the same as for the whole Belgium campaign (Dutch 0,85% KIA, Belgians 1%). That means fighting in Holland was very intensive. The percentage of wounded soldiers is also about the same.
Also the Dutch got the absolute elite regarding German strength fighting against them. Student's Para, the airlandingdivision and the SS Leibstandarte were very well trained and equipped German forces.
The Dutch Command was surprised in the fact that the Germans did aim for the most Western bridges in the Netherlands. These bridges weren't rigged for demolition, because they were needed to give the French an entry in the Netherlands. The Dutch were afraid for a small commando raid on those bridges to demolish them.
Another astonishing thing is that the small Dutch airforce wasn't eliminated on the ground (compared to the Belgians, which lost almost there whole airforce being sitting ducks on the ground). The Dutch pilots were forced to warm the engines of all planes at 03:00 daily and keep those engines warm by staying next to the planes till 06:00 hours. Therefore, when the Germans came, almost all planes were airborne and bringing havoc on the German transports and bombers. However on return most airfields around The Hague and Rotterdam were battlefields, so the pilots didn't have a place to land the planes. So half the airforce got knocked out due to not having enough fuel to reach other airfields.

As I have read a lot of books about those five days (I couldn't stand the fact that the campaign only lasted for five days), one can say the German Para's succeeded in disrupting communications around the Area of The Hague. Therefore the Dutch weren't able to defend the Maasbridges (they had to fight the boxed in Para's in very many places around The Hague, using valuable troops) in Rotterdam and that was than the end of things.


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RE: Next quiz - 6/16/2011 11:35:36 PM   
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Use this link to a good site for this information - and scroll down to Battle results

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RE: Next quiz - 6/26/2011 3:15:19 PM   
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What class of ship am I and which ship of that class am I.

1) I am not represented as a individual counter in MWIF.
2) Winston Churchill is credited for naming the main part of the name of my class.
3) I was lost with all hands in October 1941 by unknown cause.

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RE: Next quiz - 6/26/2011 5:44:18 PM   
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Are you the Flower-class Corvette Gladiolus?
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RE: Next quiz - 6/26/2011 5:53:58 PM   
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Yes. You are indeed right. Well done.

((Not saying you did, but a small reminder to all, to try to avoid googling the answer to the questions in this thread.))

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RE: Next quiz - 6/26/2011 5:58:50 PM   
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Oops. Shame on me!

I didn't know that was a rule. Sorry about that.

This is not an excuse, but I'm trying to find a "rules" or guidelines post that I can re-post, and I don't see one. Is there one?

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RE: Next quiz - 6/26/2011 6:05:28 PM   
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Nah. No "official" rules so far.

But no googling is appreciated unless the question says it is allowed.

And if you get a question right it is also very much appreciated if you ask one.

If you feel like making some rules feel free to do so. I am sure it will be appreciated. But I think your time could be spent better elsewhere than trying to make rules for this. Like making a question...

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RE: Next quiz - 6/26/2011 6:09:16 PM   
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Just didn't want to make another faux pas . . . I hadn't read all of the 2100+ posts. No intention here to make up rules. Except one: all answers must be typed whilst standing on your head!

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RE: Next quiz - 6/26/2011 6:16:24 PM   
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What date is this picture taken?






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RE: Next quiz - 6/26/2011 6:23:06 PM   
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What date is this picture taken?






That picture is one of the splash screens for MWIF. Therefore I know (or think I know), but I will leave it for others to answer.

EDIT: The MWIF splash screen provides an additional clue.




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RE: Next quiz - 6/26/2011 8:43:53 PM   
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I know what is photographed here, but the date? Without google I haven't got a clue...

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RE: Next quiz - 6/26/2011 9:45:59 PM   
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it was sometime in the summer of 42 .. the bombing raid on Japan


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RE: Next quiz - 6/26/2011 10:18:14 PM   
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What date is this picture taken?



This is one of the B-25 of the Doolittle Raid, taking off from the USS Hornet to bomb tokyo on the 18 April 1942.

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RE: Next quiz - 6/27/2011 12:54:09 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

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What date is this picture taken?



This is one of the B-25 of the Doolittle Raid, taking off from the USS Hornet to bomb tokyo on the 18 April 1942.

All correct.

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RE: Next quiz - 6/27/2011 8:35:39 PM   
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quote:

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Oops. Shame on me!

I didn't know that was a rule. Sorry about that.

This is not an excuse, but I'm trying to find a "rules" or guidelines post that I can re-post, and I don't see one. Is there one?


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ORIGINAL: warspite1
Surely it`s googling not allowed? although of course that relies on people`s honesty....



Well, I like to Google such history related issues, if I must rely on memory only, I just can forget about answering any quizz here



Yep - that`s the idea





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RE: Next quiz - 6/27/2011 9:54:32 PM   
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Weird. I know I saw that first post, but I missed the next one when I was looking for it. Thanks.

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RE: Next quiz - 6/28/2011 6:38:58 PM   
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Weird. I know I saw that first post, but I missed the next one when I was looking for it. Thanks.


No problem. I have to post the link for "Post #: 63" from time to time.

Another unposted rule is you give NEW hints each day after your initial post.
if your question is not answered in 2 days after your inital post you post the answer.


That means a maximum of an inital post and 2 days of hints then you tell answer if they havent guessed.



If I dont't know the answer and google them then I don't answer the quiz.

Due to the massive information I have collected on ships and land units I give someone else the chance to answer them first



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RE: Next quiz - 7/9/2011 10:44:54 AM   
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What kind of AFV is on the picture?




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RE: Next quiz - 7/9/2011 11:08:37 AM   
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AFV's are not my speciality so I'll leave that one to someone else.....but in the meantime, I will ask another question to run alongside yours Orm.

The evacuation of the BEF was called Operation Dynamo. Where did the name Dynamo come from?

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RE: Next quiz - 7/9/2011 12:30:44 PM   
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Marvel Comics?

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RE: Next quiz - 7/9/2011 4:07:40 PM   
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Marvel Comics?
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Surprisingly.....no

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