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RE: Fighting - 9/5/2011 6:58:41 PM   
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Couple of points one positive for you one negative.

The bad news first. With all the air fighting going on, that means alot of experience for both sides. Yes you are hurting his pilots. I would IMAGINE though that he has moved a bunch of elite pilots to TRACOM, if he can get 20 or 30 of each branch into TRACOM his raw recruits will be coming out of the academy near 45 or 50 i believe, certainly higher than raw recruits, quicker to train to effective status.

The good news, though your LONG term out look is quite good, with all the HI spent on airframes he MUST have had to pay that price elsewhere, ships primarily. Yes he is enriched but it only goes soo far.

Couple of observations

I cant believe what I am seeing in terms of airplanes fighting, I am a JFB and play primarily Japanese and I cant imaging sweeps of hundreds of airplanes. How does one build up the Sentais and Dutais and Bowties up to that level of planes???

That day of nearly 1,000 planes shot down was incredible, the next day another 400 or so!! WOW

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RE: Fighting - 9/5/2011 7:06:45 PM   
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afaik TRACOM only speeds up the process of the accademy courses...so pilots will come out with the usual experience but few months earlier.

Then abou the experience that goes up for both sides...i don't think the process is so easy for the Japs. Being on the offensive there are a lot more pilots MIA or KIA than WIA...and very few (especially bomber ones) survive after a raid, while the 95% of my pilots usually survive to fight another day, no matter is the planes is damaged, written off or shot down.

You mean "The mother of all air battles" ? We had two main blowing battles...the first one over karachi when he started the offensive to reduce the Citadel....actually that battle went on for 6 months...and then the day of "Ndeni-KB-Raid" where he launched contemporarly two big raids over Ndeni and over Karachi in Jan 43

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RE: Fighting - 9/5/2011 7:07:06 PM   
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Bloody glorious days

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RE: Fighting - 9/5/2011 7:17:18 PM   
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However the KB remains the main concerns...the "8 hexes" rule can be a killer as PzB showed us all...


But not quite yet! B5N torpedo delivery range is 7 and D3A carries 250kg bomb 6 and 2 x 60kg bombs 7 hex only. Only B5N flies 8 hex, carrying 2 x 250kg bombs - together worth about one 1000lbs bomb but the B5N needs to skip or glide bomb them.

B6N and D4Y have just arrived to the Japanese arsenal, and they both use a unique engine. Do you know where the KB is? The next time it will put its head out it will most likely have some new strike A/C with her, but its unlikely to me that Rader could also build hundreds of them both a month to replace all KB aircraft this early. Possibly yes, probably no, even Rader cant be using all of his HI to aircraft production...

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RE: Fighting - 9/5/2011 8:01:51 PM   
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Japanese subs are pretty stong in the game for the first two years. I would say the Viperpol has torpedoed half a dozen carriers (Wasp twice) another half a dozen BBs, sunk two or three CAs and another four or five CLs. Plus three or four damaged CVEs have fallen to his subs. I consider myself lucky that he has only damaged capital ships and not sunk any. But most any Allied AAR has some critical ships getting hit by subs. Allied player just has to deal with it and go about his business. The only consolation is that by late 43, Allied ASW assets get very good and I have pretty much knocked the Japanese sub fleet out in exchange for my losses.

My subs have gotten a few of his as well but so far only damaging BBs or CVs.

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 12:06:04 AM   
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A sleepy turn. The enemy BBs moved to Auki, while, as predicted, his bombers didn't fly against my BBs at Karaikira. I've lost track of the KB and that is a bad news....

Nothing else happened....

We decided to make a complex coordinated manouvre.

6 Fletchers with 2 modern CLs will sweep Thousands Ships Bay along with PTs and subs....maybe we can hurt him without risking our precious fast BBs...however the battle will go, this TF will move back to Tassafaronga (a base that i haven't used for ages now) under a 200 crack fighters umbrella CAP

Our BBs won't stay doing nothing. they'll sweep Tulagi in order to prevent a BB bombardment and then will move back to Ndeni, under the protection of 150 LRCAP from Karaikira. At Ndeni more 250 fighters will provide cover.

Bombers and torpedo bombers are allerted at Ndeni in case he tries something strange with the KB...

The rest of my surface assets will recombine at Ndeni where arrived 20 DDs after the upgrades and refitting.

It will be a bloody turn...i know that....i just hope to get some luck....those fletchers could put a couple of torps in his BBs....let's hope for the best

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 3:46:23 AM   
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I very much doubt Rader has his elite pilots from the start of the game left in a reserve somewhere. He will likely have a bunch of exp 80+ pilots in TRACOM but otherwise you will not have to face much more than basic trained pilots until you have been fighting over his bases for some time. Even then it is very hard for the Japanese player to accumulate elite pilots due to the fragility of many of their planes.

In my game (only may 42) I have pulled as many of the 70+ exp pilots you start with as possible off the frontlines and replaced them with trained 50xp 70air pilots and I can see the difference in performance it has made, especially with oscars and zeroes against P-38's . Airframes are fairly easy to replace as the Japanese but high exp pilots are priceless and almost impossible to get more of.

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 6:15:02 AM   
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Thx guys, but sooner or later things will turn and it will be me the one forced to attack and fight aerial battles over his bases...but i do promise to take care of our guys and not to throw them away without a reason.

The KB has actually fought a lot of aerial battles (in India and in the SWPAC now) and many times she suffered badly in terms of downed planes. Hope those crack pilots Rader begins with are food for fishes right now.

About the last turn i forgot to say that i've ordered to 50 4Es to move to Lunga and to try to bomb Rabaul port at night (remember our HR about night bombing: number of bombers allowed=Moonlight%/2 at 10k feet min alt).

He has spotted my BBs...so the question is : is he going to create a "trap2 for them? i'm also wondering if the presence of his BBs so close to the front, for so many days, without actually using them, was a way to "call out" my big ships in order to smash them with a KB+LBA ambush....mmmmmm

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 6:23:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Erkki


quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

However the KB remains the main concerns...the "8 hexes" rule can be a killer as PzB showed us all...


But not quite yet! B5N torpedo delivery range is 7 and D3A carries 250kg bomb 6 and 2 x 60kg bombs 7 hex only. Only B5N flies 8 hex, carrying 2 x 250kg bombs - together worth about one 1000lbs bomb but the B5N needs to skip or glide bomb them.

B6N and D4Y have just arrived to the Japanese arsenal, and they both use a unique engine. Do you know where the KB is? The next time it will put its head out it will most likely have some new strike A/C with her, but its unlikely to me that Rader could also build hundreds of them both a month to replace all KB aircraft this early. Possibly yes, probably no, even Rader cant be using all of his HI to aircraft production...


Good to know Erkki, but i prefer to be prudent and consider the KB able to strike from 8 hex distance.
And however Rader did tell me that his strategy was to concentrate his HI points only on planes, halting everything else except CVs and Escort ships....so we all may be surprised by his plane production capabilities in this game

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 6:57:48 AM   
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...waiting for the reply to come in....

....so if he bombards Tulagi with his BBs we're gonna have a great clash between his 6 BBs (+19 DDs) and my 4 modern BBs (along with 2 CAs, 3 CLs and 11 modern DDs)...then the survivability of my ships after the battle will depend on what he does with his LBA bombers....will he encrease back their range? Will my LRCAP be able to cover them till they safely reach Ndeni? Will my light cruiser division that has swept nighttime Thousands Ships Bay and retired to Tassafaronga will grab the attention of his naval attacks thus letting the BBs to get back to Ndeni unmolested?....so many questions...so few answers....

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 10:20:06 AM   
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quote:

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...waiting for the reply to come in....

....so if he bombards Tulagi with his BBs we're gonna have a great clash between his 6 BBs (+19 DDs) and my 4 modern BBs (along with 2 CAs, 3 CLs and 11 modern DDs)...then the survivability of my ships after the battle will depend on what he does with his LBA bombers....will he encrease back their range? Will my LRCAP be able to cover them till they safely reach Ndeni? Will my light cruiser division that has swept nighttime Thousands Ships Bay and retired to Tassafaronga will grab the attention of his naval attacks thus letting the BBs to get back to Ndeni unmolested?....so many questions...so few answers....


well - I would wonder most about the actual outcome of such a surface battle... - I have seen almost EVERYTHING
- from a fight between 4 IJN BBs against 1 US BB (where 2 IJN BBs were sent back in sinking condition and the 1 USN BB only took minor hits) to the complete destruction of a USN-BB Fleet in a surface battle... (Yamato and Musashi... - well you DO NOT want to engage them in a surface action)... - so should such a battle occur, it might be that your LRCAP will only have to defend the remaining DDs, or an almost fully battle ready battle fleet

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 10:33:18 AM   
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The F4U-1A is significantly better than the F4U-1: the stats are better, it carries drop tanks and it can be flown off flattops. You'll be happier when those come around.

One thing I've noticed is that with surface TFs bigger isn't necessarily better. You might pare that TF you mentioned a bit for better results.

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 10:49:35 AM   
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My TF has 15 ships, enough to provide protection and not to far from the 12 "best" configuration.
He had 25 ships-TF.....hope he remains with that conf

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 11:15:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SoliInvictus202


quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

...waiting for the reply to come in....

....so if he bombards Tulagi with his BBs we're gonna have a great clash between his 6 BBs (+19 DDs) and my 4 modern BBs (along with 2 CAs, 3 CLs and 11 modern DDs)...then the survivability of my ships after the battle will depend on what he does with his LBA bombers....will he encrease back their range? Will my LRCAP be able to cover them till they safely reach Ndeni? Will my light cruiser division that has swept nighttime Thousands Ships Bay and retired to Tassafaronga will grab the attention of his naval attacks thus letting the BBs to get back to Ndeni unmolested?....so many questions...so few answers....


well - I would wonder most about the actual outcome of such a surface battle... - I have seen almost EVERYTHING
- from a fight between 4 IJN BBs against 1 US BB (where 2 IJN BBs were sent back in sinking condition and the 1 USN BB only took minor hits) to the complete destruction of a USN-BB Fleet in a surface battle... (Yamato and Musashi... - well you DO NOT want to engage them in a surface action)... - so should such a battle occur, it might be that your LRCAP will only have to defend the remaining DDs, or an almost fully battle ready battle fleet



I know i'm risking....but he's risking too....and considering we are at that stage of the war where the balance is slowly shifting on my side, i think he's taking more risks than i am...so hope for the best and finger crossed

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 1:12:49 PM   
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BTW, Love your new profile picture! :-)

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 2:58:12 PM   
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Never fear, gents. The egregious violations by GreJoy and John Dillworth have been reported to the Court of the Kangaroos.






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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 3:28:37 PM   
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Thanks, Dan. Is it possible to "green dot" an avatar?

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 3:31:57 PM   
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Never fear, gents. The egregious violations by GreJoy and John Dillworth have been reported to the Court of the Kangaroos.







Women, don't listen to this servant of the shaving-system!
You can all be free! You just need to want it!
Every single one out of you has inside her the potential of becoming (back) a NATURAL WOMAN and break the chains of shaving-slavery. Just want it!
They will curse you...
They will spit at you...
They will call you freak, monster, abominion...
You need to be strong. You must be stronger than this... go on and never shave back!

Now come and follow me and we'll put a-fire the "Braun" Industries

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 3:45:54 PM   
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quote:

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Hmmm whats the white spot on her right breast? I think we have another white house scandal on our hands. Grey remind her to take her dress to the dry cleaners afterwards.

I do have to say you are a great sport for all the ribbing you get on this topic Greyjoy

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 3:52:09 PM   
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...she pretends to be a teatcher and that that "white" spot is just chalk.....who knows

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 4:32:17 PM   
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...she pretends to be a teatcher and that that "white" spot is just chalk.....who knows

now if she was a real teaCHer - she would certainly have a problem with the line above

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 4:36:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SoliInvictus202

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

...she pretends to be a teatcher and that that "white" spot is just chalk.....who knows

now if she was a real teaCHer - she would certainly have a problem with the line above



....Oh Good Santa, please for the upcoming Christmas, bring me a GreyJoy-English/English-Greyjoy dictionary....

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 4:45:36 PM   
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I like a big teatcher Greyjoy.

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 5:12:22 PM   
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You know guys...it's all Rader's fault if we're ending up talking about hairy girls and GreyJoy's miss-spellings :-) He went on a little vacation this long week-end and he's not yet back fully operative.... so don't blame me!

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 9:42:29 PM   
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April 19, 20 1943

Nothing happened.
My 4Es were grounded for 2 night in a row due to bad weather.
His BBs fled away towards Rabaul so my BBTF found noone at Tulagi and got safely back to Ndeni.
My CLTF sunk a PB at Thousands Bay and nothing more...

My Eastern Army has crossed the river and now is positioned right 1 hex north of Multan...he still has 84 units at Multan...and his bombers keep on hitting my troops from above my max AA cieling...

Tomorrow we'll try to bomb Rabaul after a long period with 80 4Es. Target will be the port where 350 ships are reported anchored. 20 P-38s will try to sweep first....let's see what happens...
My CLTF will bomb the enemy at Tulagi and then will retire to Karaikira, where it will be joined by 12 more modern DDs...


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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 9:43:44 PM   
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PS: all his bombers were grounded in the Solomons and from what reports my recon it seems that he has moved them way back somewhere north of Bouganville....

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 9:55:44 PM   
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The last air defeats seem to have made Rader less confident about the use of his bombers. It's been now 4 days that they are grounded...and the fact that his BB fled away may mean that he doesn't want to risk his precious ships in a 1vs1...so far so good

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 9:56:32 PM   
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BTW could you post a picture of the air plane loss graph from tracker should be a pretty picture.

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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 10:27:57 PM   
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My tracker stop working months ago...

Finally a good turn!
Rader wasn't prepared at Rabaul and our 4Es moved to Lunga did have a wonderfull 2 days "hunting" in Rabaul harbour...
My P-38s suffered a lot instead...



Apr 21,22 43

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ASW attack near Wakayama at 108,62

Japanese Ships
CA Tone
DD Tanikaze
DD Susuzuki
DD Susukaze
DD Hikokaze
DD Katsutade
DD Samidare

Allied Ships
SS Drum, hits 1


So some of his surface assets are moving back to Japan finally...probably some upgrades...

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Night Naval bombardment of Tulagi at 114,137

Allied Ships
CL Montpelier
CL Detroit
CL Leander
DD Craven
DD Jarvis
DD LaVallette
DD Jenkins
DD Eaton
DD Conway



CL Montpelier firing at 4th Division
CL Detroit firing at 38th Division
CL Leander firing at 4th Division
DD Craven firing at 38th Division
DD Jarvis firing at 4th Division
DD LaVallette firing at 5th Division
DD Jenkins firing at 38th Division
DD Eaton firing at 13th Ind.Mixed Brigade
DD Conway firing at 5th Division


No casualities???

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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 36
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 41
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 6



Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 20


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIb Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 5 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 28
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 35
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 3



Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 11
B-24D Liberator x 16
B-24D1 Liberator x 64


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 22, heavy fires
CMc Ma 3, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Hokuan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA Ashigara, Bomb hits 1
xAKL Kasui Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 16, heavy fires
AV Asosan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Usugumo, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Abukuma, Bomb hits 3, on fire
xAK Jusan Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
APD Asakaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AR Asakasan Maru, Bomb hits 1
CL Katori, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAK Chojun Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Hokutatsu Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Kashiwara Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CMc Takunan Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Jinsan Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CA Mogami, Bomb hits 2
xAK Josho Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SC CHa-26, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Boston Maru, Bomb hits 1
xAK Aki Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CA Chikuma, Bomb hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Port hits 4
Port supply hits 2


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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 23
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 31
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 2



Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Ryua Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Akita Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAKL Nichizui Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAKL Junpo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAKL Penang Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Katori, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Kasui Maru, and is sunk



Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

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Sub attack near Lunga at 113,138

Japanese Ships
CM Wakataka, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Salmon







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Afternoon Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 29
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 41
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 3



Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 10
B-24D Liberator x 15
B-24D1 Liberator x 73


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 9 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 11, heavy fires
CA Chikuma, Bomb hits 5
xAK Nitiyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CL Katori, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Ashigara, Bomb hits 3
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 17, heavy fires
APD Kamikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Kisogawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Abukuma, Bomb hits 1
xAKL Bunzan Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
APD Nagatsuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PB Muroran Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AV Hakkai Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
PB Fukuei Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Nissen Maru #3, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Shozan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Sakito Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Jusan Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Ina Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CMc Ma 1, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Nitiho Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Port hits 15
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 2


Hopefully few major ships will have to get back to a repair yard in order to refit all those sys damages ...and now Rader will have to consider Rabaul not anymore a "safe" harbour...



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RE: Fighting - 9/6/2011 10:31:08 PM   
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very nice move there! - should somewhat deminish the "overconfidence" of the Japanese Empire!

leaving such a high number of high-value combat vessels so close to the frontline...oh well...he will probably relocate them somewhere to the rear - thus giving you an increased window of Japanese reaction for 1 or perhaps even 2 days - depending on where he will relocate his main fleet vessels! - which will give you 1/2 more days to do your stuff.... - keep that in mind for the future counteroffensive!



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