Slitherine

quote:

ORIGINAL: cavalry

I have actually sugffered this as long as I can remember . Re starts etc do nothing.

I am on P6 awaiting next official upgrade with my opponnents

thanks for the help anyway.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mundy

Has anyone had this issue with the Beta?

In PH, when I open the ship repair screen, changing the repair status of the ships is taking a long time. I would say that it takes > 20 seconds for each change to register after clicking on it. I'm only seeing this at Pearl (12/19/41 right now). I think was two updates ago since I've had this problem.

Other than that, it's been great.

Ed.

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm

[1108r2]
Fixed HQ not swapping with fragment when fully offloaded from ship [MEM]

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm

The problem is that originally changing one ship didn't adjust the other repair times. Now, when changing a ship, the other repair times are adjusted. This is what is takes the time. The more ships in the base/port and needing repairs, the longer the time.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Satansbraten

Would like to report a possible bug in the LCU upgrade routine:

Situation in my game:
100th RAF Base Force has (0)x0 of 3"/20cwt AA guns and (0)x0 of 2pdr AA guns listed in its current active equipment.
My understanding is that the switch for upgrade options ("No Upgrade" / "Upgrade Allowed", which is active if Replacements are turned on for an unit) should prevent the upgrade of those items to 3.7" Mk II AA gun respectively 40mm Bofors AA gun even if pools for those are plentiful.
But this is not the case:
- Replacements turned on for the unit, everything else turned off (whole map)
- Switch set to "No upgrade" (directly in the unit screen)
- All of the mentioned AA guns have pools > 0
- 3.7" Mk II is set to stockpile, all others to no stockpile

Result is the unit changed to "(0)x0 3.7" Mk II AA gun" + "(0)x0 of 40mm Bofors AA gun". My aim was that the unit uses up the old equipment, and the newer guns are saved for use in other units. This behaviour seems to be more or less standard for (0)x0 items if the "Show TOE" button reveals a different set of items for their position in the list and pools for the new item are not zero. In the same turn the unit didn't change its "(0)x0 RR/Vickers A/C" to "(0)x0 Humber I" but took one RR/Vickers A/C from pool instead. I think the reason for this is that the Humber I pool is currently empty (playing in mid March,1942 so its already on the board but was used in other units).

A comparable case I tested is the 18th Chinese Base Force. In my game it lists the typical set of the older US AA guns at start (37mm Colt etc.), all (0)x0. I didn't allow replacements for that unit until all of the available US-made Chinese guns were distributed to other units. When looking at the TOE the 18th Chinese BF list a different set of AA guns, so it does an upgrade (my expectation: if allowed). Testing this showed that it does perform the upgrade despite an active "No Upgrade" switch (Replacements On). It uses a portion of available .303 AAMG(x2) from pool.

edit: Tested with q9b, so this may have been adressed?

quote:

ORIGINAL: mgoldstein

1) Ability to train bomber crews in strafing skill. Attack bombers really need this.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pascal

Deleted. Thought there was a problem in search arcs but as I remember from previous discussions, the search arcs only go out to normal range and don't display to extended range.

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Satansbraten

Would like to report a possible bug in the LCU upgrade routine:

Situation in my game:
100th RAF Base Force has (0)x0 of 3"/20cwt AA guns and (0)x0 of 2pdr AA guns listed in its current active equipment.
My understanding is that the switch for upgrade options ("No Upgrade" / "Upgrade Allowed", which is active if Replacements are turned on for an unit) should prevent the upgrade of those items to 3.7" Mk II AA gun respectively 40mm Bofors AA gun even if pools for those are plentiful.
But this is not the case:
- Replacements turned on for the unit, everything else turned off (whole map)
- Switch set to "No upgrade" (directly in the unit screen)
- All of the mentioned AA guns have pools > 0
- 3.7" Mk II is set to stockpile, all others to no stockpile

Result is the unit changed to "(0)x0 3.7" Mk II AA gun" + "(0)x0 of 40mm Bofors AA gun". My aim was that the unit uses up the old equipment, and the newer guns are saved for use in other units. This behaviour seems to be more or less standard for (0)x0 items if the "Show TOE" button reveals a different set of items for their position in the list and pools for the new item are not zero. In the same turn the unit didn't change its "(0)x0 RR/Vickers A/C" to "(0)x0 Humber I" but took one RR/Vickers A/C from pool instead. I think the reason for this is that the Humber I pool is currently empty (playing in mid March,1942 so its already on the board but was used in other units).

A comparable case I tested is the 18th Chinese Base Force. In my game it lists the typical set of the older US AA guns at start (37mm Colt etc.), all (0)x0. I didn't allow replacements for that unit until all of the available US-made Chinese guns were distributed to other units. When looking at the TOE the 18th Chinese BF list a different set of AA guns, so it does an upgrade (my expectation: if allowed). Testing this showed that it does perform the upgrade despite an active "No Upgrade" switch (Replacements On). It uses a portion of available .303 AAMG(x2) from pool.

edit: Tested with q9b, so this may have been adressed?

Can you give me a save of that situation?
It may be that a 0 x 0 device will automatically get updated as it doesn't need any devices to edit on.

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm

It controls the upgrade of the LCU devices.

TOE upgrade is dependent on the REST status.

What is discussed above is the device changing to match the current TOE device type, rather than the TOE/formation changing to a new one.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bliztk

Hi michael, here is a savegame with the latest betapatch.

File in next post


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 21



Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Ia Tony: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-61-Ia Tony (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 3 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
64th Sentai Det with Ki-61-Ia Tony (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
--------------------------------------------------



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14



Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
5th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

quote:

ORIGINAL: Satansbraten

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm

It controls the upgrade of the LCU devices.

TOE upgrade is dependent on the REST status.

What is discussed above is the device changing to match the current TOE device type, rather than the TOE/formation changing to a new one.

Ok, so conclusion is I can control/prevent upgrade of current TOE items when setting it to Combat (plus Replacements ON and Upgrade OFF), without regarding pool numbers for any current or future TOE device for that unit? The above setting would equal an "use it up"-command for currently employed stuff and would begin to fill 0x0 stuff without prior upgrade to next device?

Will test it this evening or tomorrow (I still worry about the missing "+" mark for the 3"/20cwt). What I'm also concerned about is that the order of the list is not changed (my understanding is this will not happen, cause it's the actual TOE change). Reason for this is, that in some games I had those cases where device entries are doubled, most commonly two entries for the Support squad device and then these are slowly shifted over, but I also had a Brit BF which took 20+ Eng Vehicles (nice but gamey). The support squad thing can be seen in the posted Save. Some Aussie BF have it, they are located in the Adelaide/Sydney/Canberra area. If the Eng Vehicle case is also from this game then the unit is at Broome.

I think when playing as Allies the LCU upgrade mechanics are quite important to know and manage in order to field as much equipment as possible, as soon as possible. The new pool options (filters) and markings ("*" denoting upgrade paths) are a big help and reduce dependance on Tracker, which is a great tool but gets somewhat slow the further you advance in turns. There are many, many upgrade paths for any kind of equipment, and many bottlenecks. My most loved ones are all of the British related stuff and all those countries which use them with different starting points in the upgrade path of course. Sounds like a personal campaign to stop those nasty rear guard guys toying with my newest equipment.

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Satansbraten

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm

It controls the upgrade of the LCU devices.

TOE upgrade is dependent on the REST status.

What is discussed above is the device changing to match the current TOE device type, rather than the TOE/formation changing to a new one.

Ok, so conclusion is I can control/prevent upgrade of current TOE items when setting it to Combat (plus Replacements ON and Upgrade OFF), without regarding pool numbers for any current or future TOE device for that unit? The above setting would equal an "use it up"-command for currently employed stuff and would begin to fill 0x0 stuff without prior upgrade to next device?

Will test it this evening or tomorrow (I still worry about the missing "+" mark for the 3"/20cwt). What I'm also concerned about is that the order of the list is not changed (my understanding is this will not happen, cause it's the actual TOE change). Reason for this is, that in some games I had those cases where device entries are doubled, most commonly two entries for the Support squad device and then these are slowly shifted over, but I also had a Brit BF which took 20+ Eng Vehicles (nice but gamey). The support squad thing can be seen in the posted Save. Some Aussie BF have it, they are located in the Adelaide/Sydney/Canberra area. If the Eng Vehicle case is also from this game then the unit is at Broome.

I think when playing as Allies the LCU upgrade mechanics are quite important to know and manage in order to field as much equipment as possible, as soon as possible. The new pool options (filters) and markings ("*" denoting upgrade paths) are a big help and reduce dependance on Tracker, which is a great tool but gets somewhat slow the further you advance in turns. There are many, many upgrade paths for any kind of equipment, and many bottlenecks. My most loved ones are all of the British related stuff and all those countries which use them with different starting points in the upgrade path of course. Sounds like a personal campaign to stop those nasty rear guard guys toying with my newest equipment.

On the save I am looking at the 3"/20 is stockpiled so it can't be used - thus no '+'. Took stockpile off and it showed a '+'.
BTW, a device with (0) x 0 will currently still change to match the TOE device - 3"/20 will change to 3.7".

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm

It controls the upgrade of the LCU devices.

TOE upgrade is dependent on the REST status.

What is discussed above is the device changing to match the current TOE device type, rather than the TOE/formation changing to a new one.

quote:

ORIGINAL: herwin

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bliztk

Hi michael, here is a savegame with the latest betapatch.

File in next post


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 21



Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Ia Tony: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-61-Ia Tony (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 3 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
64th Sentai Det with Ki-61-Ia Tony (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
--------------------------------------------------



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14



Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
5th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Many of my night attacks strayed (10 squadrons in total). Think of what it might have been like.

It was bad... My aircrews are getting experienced.

On the other hand, I have five large bases near where the KB hangs out (25 or so experienced squadrons briefed for naval attack), and none of them ever launch against the KB (in six to eight months of operations). They launch fine for LBA ops and often take it on the chin, but never against the Japanese carriers or SAGs.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Satansbraten

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Satansbraten

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm

It controls the upgrade of the LCU devices.

TOE upgrade is dependent on the REST status.

What is discussed above is the device changing to match the current TOE device type, rather than the TOE/formation changing to a new one.

Ok, so conclusion is I can control/prevent upgrade of current TOE items when setting it to Combat (plus Replacements ON and Upgrade OFF), without regarding pool numbers for any current or future TOE device for that unit? The above setting would equal an "use it up"-command for currently employed stuff and would begin to fill 0x0 stuff without prior upgrade to next device?

Will test it this evening or tomorrow (I still worry about the missing "+" mark for the 3"/20cwt). What I'm also concerned about is that the order of the list is not changed (my understanding is this will not happen, cause it's the actual TOE change). Reason for this is, that in some games I had those cases where device entries are doubled, most commonly two entries for the Support squad device and then these are slowly shifted over, but I also had a Brit BF which took 20+ Eng Vehicles (nice but gamey). The support squad thing can be seen in the posted Save. Some Aussie BF have it, they are located in the Adelaide/Sydney/Canberra area. If the Eng Vehicle case is also from this game then the unit is at Broome.

I think when playing as Allies the LCU upgrade mechanics are quite important to know and manage in order to field as much equipment as possible, as soon as possible. The new pool options (filters) and markings ("*" denoting upgrade paths) are a big help and reduce dependance on Tracker, which is a great tool but gets somewhat slow the further you advance in turns. There are many, many upgrade paths for any kind of equipment, and many bottlenecks. My most loved ones are all of the British related stuff and all those countries which use them with different starting points in the upgrade path of course. Sounds like a personal campaign to stop those nasty rear guard guys toying with my newest equipment.

On the save I am looking at the 3"/20 is stockpiled so it can't be used - thus no '+'. Took stockpile off and it showed a '+'.
BTW, a device with (0) x 0 will currently still change to match the TOE device - 3"/20 will change to 3.7".

Meaning that I must first distribute my 3.7" stock to other units so it is zero? Then 3"/20cwt will be drawn (given stockpile OFF)? This is a guess based on the RR/Vickers A/C not upgrading to Humber I A/C experience.
For example this also means I will have to closely monitor/manage all evacuated Dutch units. They in turn start mostly with 80mm guns in the heavy AA department upgrading to the 3"/20cwt and so on. Same goes for all the other equipment which has paths to British equipment (e.g. 20mm Rheinmetall medium AA).

Couldn't there be a "Keep TOE" or "Keep equipment" switch as simple solution for all this?

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

michaelm, is there a changelog for the R3 beta? The download is there but the last log is for R2.

quote:

[1108r2]
Fixed HQ not swapping with fragment when fully offloaded from ship [MEM]
[1108r3]
Fixed No device upgrade of TOE when number is zero [MEM]
Fixed Error in class of respawned midget sub [MEM]
Fixed Misplaced TF icon not matching map location [MEM]