Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: SoliInvictus202

a VERY important hex to move DDs into (and if possible PTs if in range) is Hakodate))

it has a strong naval fortress - but if you just move into the hex - and not move through it into the sea of Japan then these guns won't attack!

it is a 2 hex move from Ominato - he will use massive barge transports (that's what my opponent did) to move reinforcements to Hokkaido

if you move a few DDs there - set to react 0 hexes - and he forgets to escort his barges - then you might get a few nice kills! (I killed about 4 Divisions worth on the one day I was able to get through his escorts - I lost 10 DDs or so with these moves - but 4 DIvs are worth it!)

next possible option is Mauban (or whatever) - also in range for japanese barges departing Ominato!

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

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ORIGINAL: SoliInvictus202

a VERY important hex to move DDs into (and if possible PTs if in range) is Hakodate))

it has a strong naval fortress - but if you just move into the hex - and not move through it into the sea of Japan then these guns won't attack!

it is a 2 hex move from Ominato - he will use massive barge transports (that's what my opponent did) to move reinforcements to Hokkaido

if you move a few DDs there - set to react 0 hexes - and he forgets to escort his barges - then you might get a few nice kills! (I killed about 4 Divisions worth on the one day I was able to get through his escorts - I lost 10 DDs or so with these moves - but 4 DIvs are worth it!)

next possible option is Mauban (or whatever) - also in range for japanese barges departing Ominato!

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But, sincerly i think that once ashore he won't be able to push me back...not in 1944 anyway. And even if i lose the rush for Okkaido - meaning to complete the conquest of Okkaido -....who cares? I mean if i manage to get a couple of AFs lvl 9 in range on Tokyo...that's basically the target the allies had in RL...so once i manage to secure my conquests...the biggest part is done. Am i wrong? My goal isn't to conquer the whole Japan..

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ORIGINAL: obvert

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

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ORIGINAL: SoliInvictus202

a VERY important hex to move DDs into (and if possible PTs if in range) is Hakodate))

it has a strong naval fortress - but if you just move into the hex - and not move through it into the sea of Japan then these guns won't attack!

it is a 2 hex move from Ominato - he will use massive barge transports (that's what my opponent did) to move reinforcements to Hokkaido

if you move a few DDs there - set to react 0 hexes - and he forgets to escort his barges - then you might get a few nice kills! (I killed about 4 Divisions worth on the one day I was able to get through his escorts - I lost 10 DDs or so with these moves - but 4 DIvs are worth it!)

next possible option is Mauban (or whatever) - also in range for japanese barges departing Ominato!

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But, sincerly i think that once ashore he won't be able to push me back...not in 1944 anyway. And even if i lose the rush for Okkaido - meaning to complete the conquest of Okkaido -....who cares? I mean if i manage to get a couple of AFs lvl 9 in range on Tokyo...that's basically the target the allies had in RL...so once i manage to secure my conquests...the biggest part is done. Am i wrong? My goal isn't to conquer the whole Japan..

You should be just fine with 6 bases up there and several that can get to level 9. Taking out Kushiro and adding that to your list of supporting airfields seems like a good plan if you're not wanting risk much. If you do have that, and if you can get your troops to Asahikawa, past the slow road and the rough wooded hex, you will take that and Sapporo. If he tried to flank you and go for Bihoro the roads are so long and slow you could most likely take Sapporo and rail back in time to stall any force threatening Bihoro. Or you can just sit and bomb! Either should work.

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ORIGINAL: String

I suspect the next few months will be brutal.

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You should be just fine with 6 bases up there and several that can get to level 9. Taking out Kushiro and adding that to your list of supporting airfields seems like a good plan if you're not wanting risk much. If you do have that, and if you can get your troops to Asahikawa, past the slow road and the rough wooded hex, you will take that and Sapporo. If he tried to flank you and go for Bihoro the roads are so long and slow you could most likely take Sapporo and rail back in time to stall any force threatening Bihoro. Or you can just sit and bomb! Either should work.


That was the plan Basically the idea was to change the tide with a single massive move and finally pose a serious threat to the Japanese inner perimeter

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Here's what we have unloaded so far at Bihoro.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58


As you begin to think about strat bombing, what are your target priorities?

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ORIGINAL: paullus99

Wow - I would think priority targets would be HI & aircraft factories....of course, burning the whole country to the ground will accomplish the same thing. More like "Operation Sledgehammer...."

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

GJ's move is the biggest and best I've ever seen, whether it be AE, WitP, or UV.  To have lost China and India and to then pull this is just a stunning accomplishment.

We all know that there are plenty of very tough days ahead with carnage for both sides.  Rader will recover his equilibrium eventually (but only after suffering terrific losses, I suspect), and will put up a tough fight.  But no matter what happens at this point, GJ will will win this battle.

In fact, this is analagous to Q-Ball's surprise massive invasion of the DEI in late '42 in his game vs. Cuttlefish.  Lots of fighting was to come, but Q-Ball had won the game already.  Achieving strategic surpise on such a scale in such a critical theater can be that decisive.  And GJ's surprise is on a larger scale and in a more important region than was Q-Ball's.

Mark me - my intention here isn't to suck the pleasure out of watching this campaign unfold.  There is great drama and excitement yet to unfold.  Rather, what I am trying to do is point out the magnitude of GJ's accomplishment here.  Through a clever masterstroke, the lad has turned the tables from decisive defeat to victory.  Whether that will be a decisive victory or a victory on some other level is still to be determined, and rader will have plenty to say about that.  But to go from China and India lost to massive occupation of Japan's homeland so suddenly? 

And what about rader?  With the entire China army free and all those scads of troops he has, he leaves the door at NoPac pretty wide open?  Wow! 

I bet this was rader's reaction sequence over the past few days:

Reaction Level One:  Wow, GJ is invading the Kuriles with some troops.  I better airlift in enough to stop him.  I better commit all my available air to hammer his forces. 

Reaction Level Two:   My puny little efforts to airlift in troops and commit my air are totally meaningless.  GJ has brought the entire Alied army, navy and air force.  He has enough to overwhelm my Kuriles bases.  I am in BIG trouble here!

Reaction Level Three:  *#*(@$&@##!!!!!  He's brought enough to overwhelm some of my Hokkaido bases!  What the heck have I done?  How did this happen?  I better not commit my air or ships against such an overwhelmingly superior force! *#($#&*$#&@#

Reaction Level Four:  And now Shikuka?

Reaction Level Five:     

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

That is what I imagined as soon as GreyJoy posted the update and my well awe of what has taken place ... Athough a reply to my post was not as overwhelmed ...

One big difference between how Nemo's "Downfall" AAR went and the totally effective use of Kami's, and this situation is as decribed. A number of well developed land based air units in your case vs. the USN alone trying to supress airfields. The USN does not have enough to do it alone [my previous Oki... comment] and has to expose itself to do any supression. Here comes the Kami's and Nemo comes out on top ..

I counted a mere 9 bases within IJNAAF range of the Northern shores Hokkaido, and Tokyo is 12 hexes away away from Sapporo. [I would assume the worse case is the G4M3a Betty at 15 hexes?] Anyway I do not think Kami's can fly from 100% damaged airfields ...

IN teh meantime ..It will be fun to see how you decide to execute this offense ...

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

The #1 priority for strategic bombing is the most modern fighter factories. Once their numbers are cut down, then the rest will be easy pickings.

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ORIGINAL: princep01

Hummmmm, his chin rests on his hand and he mutters quietly while drumming his fingers on the large conference table. Hummmmm he mutters again. Whatever has Reek done with himself. He has become a veritable sea kraken and lain a heavy stroke on those LYBs. Nice, nice and all, but, I think I'll await the dropping of the other shoe before joining fully in the hozzanas and requests for interviews.

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

The #1 priority for strategic bombing is the most modern fighter factories. Once their numbers are cut down, then the rest will be easy pickings.

That's exactly what i think NY59...i can fight the second jap generation planes. What i don't wanna fight are those dreaded new toys...and i don't have many months before Shidens and stuff like that comes around

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Now i need to work... (today i almost didn't touch a single paper file on my working desktop ...and i haven't slept well for two nights in a row because of this beloved game)

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ORIGINAL: obvert

And here I am at work continuing to check and comment on this forum instead of doing work!

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

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ORIGINAL: obvert

And here I am at work continuing to check and comment on this forum instead of doing work!

Don't tell it to me!!!!