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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/9/2011 11:08:46 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/10/2011 7:03:56 AM   
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The good Capt must always be surprised when he returns here.


One time..quite some time ago...there was a birthday party for 3 year olds at my place. I gave them about 50 feet of butcher paper and 30 magic markers then I went upstairs to have a drink. A good time was had by all.


I bet once you came back downstairs you needed 5 more drinks...

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/10/2011 10:06:11 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/11/2011 12:48:24 AM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/11/2011 2:48:04 PM   
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Yes three years old can do a lot with a marker (and I am saying this in a good way) It sure beats the heck out of a video game.


The amount of joy that can be produced by a 3 year old human brain (especially a male 3 year old brain) when it thinks it is getting away with something is truly epic.

When I came downstairs it was like a cross between Rord of Fries and a Detroit Pistons riot (with washable markers).

Interesting turn...by our standards at least. Adirmal Lord Sprior has escaped from the Norsemen and is now itching to send in Aus. I Corps to Port Hedland.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/11/2011 3:18:40 PM   
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Oz: JJ's intent was indeed a resupply/reinforcment effort for PH. He flew in some Zeroes and Kates AND Bettys to PH and sent in both Nagato and Yamashiro as well. The Allied crusiers at Exmouth stayed put. To begin the festivities, USS Thresher put a torp into Nagato during her run-in. When the sun came up, Allied air forces went into action. The medium bombers and P-38's at Carnavon had all been converted to VII Bomber Command and set to naval attack in hopes of doing some damage. The mediums and B-17's from Meekathara on ground attack were the first in but lost 2 B-25's and a B-26 to flak and the 19 Zeroes apparently flying from PH and from the nearby carriers. Even so, they did quite a bit of damage to the ground troops.

Next in were B-17's and Hudsons from Meekathara on airfield attack. The B-17's had been set to 6000 ft. This proved a mistake as one was lost to flak and one to the Zeroes. 2 Hudsons were lost. The airfield was hit moderately hard with Kates and Bettys and Nicks destroyed on the ground. Next in was a good raid from Carnavon with 24 x P-38 and 15 bombers. They hit one laden AP and dropped an egg on Yamashiro from 4000 ft. By this time, the CAP was mostly stripped away and a second raid of 6 x B-26 hit two laden AK's. Lastly, unescorted B-17's from Meekathara hit the airfield and ground troops again, destroying Kates and Zeroes and Mavis seaplanes on the gound/water.

Several poorly coordinated carrier strikes went after our crusiers at Exmouth but were chewed up the CAP. I suspect their losses will be fairly high in Kates for a second day. Afternoon Allied raids failed to hit any shipping but did identify Yamato in the area as well. Zuikaku was attacked by 3 intrepid B-25's without escort.

Opposing any Allied second landing at PH will be at least 3 BB's (Yamato, Yamshiro and Nagato)(if she can be patched up after her torp hit) plus a significant carrier force. We wil be able to field 5 slower BB's and Repulse plus Wasp, Yorktown and a RN carrier. Likely, Exmouth will be level 2 and Carnavon level 5. PoW might be on scene by then.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/11/2011 3:42:25 PM   
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Merauke: JJ finally tried to get at the transports with surface forces. A flicker of a Jap surface group had been spotted in the Arafua Sea the day before but I believe it was a couple of DD's nosing around Wessel Is. I am not sure what they were doing but they can see the same map we can and are starting to feel the threat to their lodgement in Oz from the East. Kinguasa, Yubari and 3 DD's showed up at night off Merauke and didn't even bring a hostess gift. They were fought to a draw by Detroit and 2 DD's. They were intercepted by two PT groups, sinking 3 of them without losses and then chanced upon three RAN AM's in an MSW group, sinking all three. They failed to find the transports. In the morning they were attacked by B-26's from Merauke but they had a LRCAP of Zeroes and 2 B-26 were lost.

NorPac: A report of Jap paratroopers near Dutch Harbor caused quite a stir as well as the consumption of 25,000 rounds of small arms fire and 40 rounds of shore gun ammo.

SouPac: The obviosuly telegraphed landing in the New and Improved Hebrides has drawn the attention of two Jap subs. The LYB high command are not falling for it.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/11/2011 3:49:44 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/12/2011 9:25:14 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/13/2011 4:16:25 AM   
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With the 120th USAAF Base Force - 12/13/2011 5:02:12 AM   
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Pvt. Smith: Spike, you ever feel that the war is passing us by?

Pvt. Nichols: Well, we are all cogs in the great machine, Too Tall.

Pvt. Smith: Maybe, but just once I'd like to see a plane land here. Did you know this is the third wind sock I put up and it ain't been used once.

Pvt. Nichols: What about that crop duster?

Pvt. Smith: Spike, I heard tell of this for-profit bomber squadron in Australia. We should volunteer.

Pvt. Nichols: Ain't that Nazi?

Pvt. Smith: Not Austria, you dumb cow paddie, Australia...




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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/15/2011 10:58:35 PM   
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The Pony Express rider just arrived with the turn. It seems the station in Cedar City gave him a nag. JJ lost 15-18 Kates and an equal number of Zeroes in the fighting. We lost probably 10 medium bombers adn 3 B-17's. The main body of Jap carriers are about 11 hexes NNE of Carnovan (P-38 with droptank escort range 13). There is also another ? small surface group N of Exmouth as well as the BB's near Port Hedland. There are now 14 Jap units at PH. We don't know yet what the reinforcing units are.

The decision to send the cruisers at Exmouth to PH is Admiral Lord Sprior's. I won't say how I voted. Exmouth is now 76% to level 2. An air HQ is being flown in there today by transport to make ready for some torpedo-capable Beauforts when the field is ready.

Yorktown is fully repaired in 5 d. The B-17's are back up to 7,000 ft attack altitude at PH and will go after the airbase. We can't have Jap CAP there, it kills our medium bombers. 3 squadrons of B-24's wre moved back to Geraldton to attack JJ ground units at PH.



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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 2:48:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		By ra way, pretend I didn't read the manual. What do we need to effectively post a torpedo-capable Beaufort squadron at Exmouth?


1) Torpedo-capable RAAF Beaufort squadron with good pilots....check

2) Air HQ..working on that now.

3) Supply...I know this has to be in there somewhere. How much? Is just being in the black enough?

4) Level 2 airfield...will that be enough?

5) Finally, at what range will they carry torps?


Also, this just in. Stalker Girl is able to confirm that Pocahantass Girl was indeed commando at the Halloween party. It seems even the women notice this kind of thing because it is seen as a territorial threat display.

They (Pocahantass Gril and Stalker Girl) made up and went out for coffee...doubtless to complain about their husbands (I discovered they, Pocahantass Girl and her husband are still married even though he is living with some 20-something).

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 3:14:30 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 3:25:46 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 5:23:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good job, chaps, they're pouring troops in there instead of building up someplace important!

On the torpedoes, part of this comment might depend on which Beta you are running. Look at the Air HQ. See if it has torpedoes (and enough of them). If not click on the button and give it more. Next, click on the Show TOE button. If you are running a late enough Beta, the torpedo line will turn yellow and say (something like) automatic torpedo complement. You can click on the yellow text and give it the number you want. Thereafter, when there is adequate supply and the amount of torpedoes falls below that number, the unit will automatically draw more. As long as the unit has Replacements Enabled.

Look at the aircraft display, click at the bottom of the squadron screen, to see what weapons are carried out to normal vs. extended range.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 5:39:40 PM   
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By ra way, pretend I didn't read the manual. What do we need to effectively post a torpedo-capable Beaufort squadron at Exmouth?


1) Torpedo-capable RAAF Beaufort squadron with good pilots....check

2) Air HQ..working on that now.

3) Supply...I know this has to be in there somewhere. How much? Is just being in the black enough?

4) Level 2 airfield...will that be enough?

5) Finally, at what range will they carry torps?



In addition to what my Argletonian colleague mentioned (actually having your AirHQ 'buy' torps), I'd try to ensure the presence of escort fighters of the same denomination (e.g., USAAF fighters with USAAF bombers). This will make your torpedo-equipped aircraft more likely to pass their die roll and fly into the face of some opposition.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 5:40:25 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 5:42:27 PM   
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Level 3 will be enough, not sure about level 2 without running some calculus algorithms.


Oh, right! Maybe size 2 if a true Torpedo Bomber and size 3 if a Level Bomber that just carries torps.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 7:03:03 PM   
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Level 3 will be enough, not sure about level 2 without running some calculus algorithms.


Oh, right! Maybe size 2 if a true Torpedo Bomber and size 3 if a Level Bomber that just carries torps.


I think the twins require a level 4 base minimum? B-17's and above require level 5? B-29's level 7? It depends on bomb load and number engines?

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 7:29:52 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 8:05:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Right...it will be a bit before Exmouth is level 3 so it looks like it would have to be TBF's, Albacore or SBD's. The SBD's could make it very hazardous to bring in anything to Port Hedland. It is 7 hexes from Exmouth to PH.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 8:06:54 PM   
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Level 3 will be enough, not sure about level 2 without running some calculus algorithms.


Oh, right! Maybe size 2 if a true Torpedo Bomber and size 3 if a Level Bomber that just carries torps.


I think the twins require a level 4 base minimum? B-17's and above require level 5? B-29's level 7? It depends on bomb load and number engines?

Level 3 with an Air HQ should be sufficient for the 2EBs, IIRC. The manual, plus a cloud-based SETI search algorithm, should provide the precise calculation necessary.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 8:23:19 PM   
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r=range
t=number of torepdoes at base
m=base size

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 8:33:17 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 8:40:03 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 9:05:30 PM   
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Which one of you idiot savant pinheads can remember the value of Planck's constant? We can solve this thing!

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Planck's constant


According to google its ... 6.626068 × 10-34 m2 kg / s ....

However, what happends when the range reaches maximum? and what effects do HQ have on supply and basesize?

IN the end your boys won't fly because of some cloud in-between or some other bad die roll ... [Noting in my game 50 B-26's/B-25's refuised to fly ..leaving a small 4 plane B-26 squadron to face 18 zeros ...]

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 9:18:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		So where does Heisenbergs uncertainty principle fit into all this? I know that is supposed to be applied only to the physical properties of quantum particles, but given it's called an uncertainty principle, who knows?

Could we perhaps tweak one of the known factors in the Captains formula above, such as the Planck constant, to create a larger certainty that the bomber would strike at a greater range?

Couldn't this question be put to the M&M Manhattan Project Division?

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 9:21:53 PM   
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Planck's constant


According to google its ... 6.626068 × 10-34 m2 kg / s ....


This is an RAAF unit in 1942(c) so we will need that in Nautical Miles^^2 Imperial Tons/AM Turn Length

Can you get back to us?

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RE: Before teleprompters - 12/16/2011 9:31:31 PM   
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