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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 4:17:46 PM   
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Can anyone confirm that you can trigger Soviet by landing at Korea? Please

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 4:19:24 PM   
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It's probably fair enough at 20k feet in terms of historical results, night bombing is an order of magnitude too effective atm - in fact strategic bombing in general is really.

I think firebombing relies less on accuracy and more on bombload too, though I've never tried it at night. If so though maybe its hard to miss a city, even at night.


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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 4:25:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hades1001

Can anyone confirm that you can trigger Soviet by landing at Korea? Please


AFAIK no...you need to reduce the AV of Manchukuko garrison below 8000...which isn't exactly an easy task...

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 4:26:29 PM   
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However i'll do some tests with the downfall scenario using 200 B-29s at 20k feet on city night bombing and see how it goes....

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 4:27:27 PM   
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And actually, Japs can do do this without conquering India and China. The real limitation for Japs to expand its HI is Oil/Fuel. The oil/fuel on the map is only enough for Japs homeland HI. My opponent said that conquering India don't help much his HI anyway because of the fuel problem. He might get some extra supply from the resources center but that's it. In scen2 Japs never worry about supplies but only fuel.

So, no matter it's a bug or whatever, 14 months ahead of historical date is not some thing reasonable. No matter how much resources Japs have put on to research.

I would like to propose a cap of how many months one type of plane can be accelerated for R&D in the game.

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Guys, for what concerns the R&D capabilities, i have no problem about it. I mean, this is scen2, which is a what if scenario by definition.
If Rader had the resources to speed up his R&D process it was obviously my fault not to prevent him from aquiring all that ground (China and India) that let him support his industrial capabilities...
And, however, deep in my heart i'm an axis fanboy and i've always loved those SCI-FI novels where Germany counters the allied landings with thousands of Me-262 and Me-163...or destroys NY with the AMERIKA BOMBER 

....so that's not a problem...it will be challenging...we're back in 1942 with P-40s facing Tojos...it's more or less the same. We've lived once to tell that tale...we'll live once more

I've asked Rader what he thinks about the night bombing rule...let's see! Thanks for pointing it out!

Jeff...i'm seriously thinking about what to do...i'm taking some hours of break in order to decide what to do...i'll do some more testing with Ksfgo's scenario but from what i've seen so far i have not many hopes...

Thank you all for your support guys!!!!!





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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 4:37:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hades1001

I believe the night bombing is pretty broken in this game.

But what exact the good does bombing his man power do?


Hits on manpower start fires, which tend to then go on and burn out other industries.

Restriction to use of night bombers specifically is probably "reasonable", with the caveat that defining a "night bomber" is dodgy; the great advantage in terms of accuracy (ie making it realistically effective at all in anything other than ideal conditions with extra-special crews) is bombing by radar, which is pretty universal on B-29 as far as I'm aware; at the very least Lancaster, Lincoln, UK Liberator, B-32, and at least some late-model B-17 and US & Australian Liberator would be similarly equipped.

Restriction to bombing manpower is reasonable - night precision bombing was attempted with the B-29 force but was essentially not a success - number of aircraft hitting specific targets was negligible, so it was called off. Probably you could get slightly better results going after airfields, but not by much.

I would personally say 10kft is more sensible as a restriction for B-29B (usual operating altitudes seem to have varied between 5k-15k); whatever the game does or doesn't do to airfields at night, the area bombing was as accurate as it needed to be (ie within a mile or so of the aiming point - cities, remember) and extremely effective - the first raid burnt out a quarter of Tokyo with 200 or so aircraft. Lancaster and Lincoln, if you make it that far, probably similar. For the other radar bombers I'd say 15k or even 20 if pushed - the B-29 force will get gadget priority.

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 4:51:29 PM   
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I think the problem I have with night bombing is that when Japs try to a night fighter defense, they were shot down by 4E in a number of pretty unreasonable. I had experience of a few dozen 4E doing night bombing and they shot down a whole Sentai of Tojo in one night. I know the Tojo is not designed for night fighting but the number is still weird to me. So I agreed with my Jap opponent we suspend all night bombing until its tuned or fixed.

I hope your future experience will provide a chance for us to reopen the night bombing. Just go ahead and bomb the **** of Japs

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 4:52:16 PM   
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Please share your test result when you are done. I'm looking forward to that result now.

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 4:54:02 PM   
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I'm not a fan of many of the HRs you've agreed to, nor am I a fan of this one either. I suggest tell him you will agree to 10K for this one. Still not good, but better.

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 5:07:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Rader proposed a rule that says, more or less: NightType bombers can city bomb (only manpower) from 20k feet at night without any limitations.

It sounds pretty fair to me...what do you think?

In fact, Rader's concerns about the effectiveness of night bombing (especially over AFs) are probably correct.... I've seen in Nemo's AAR that his betties were able to keep closed an allied AF at night flying at 100ft....


I'd allow for reasonable in-game effects of nighttime bombing. Whether that's bombing manpower, airfields, 1 group, 6,000 feet, 10,000 feet, 20,000 feet whatever is an almost irrelevant variable. If night time bombing is overpowered (and I believe, like many, that it is), try to find a workaround that approximates its realtime effectiveness-or lack thereof. Achieve this agreement with partner consensus and move forth.

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 5:14:46 PM   
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You should come to some reasonable accommodation on night bombing, as night firebombing is what finally made the B-29 the terror weapon it was designed to be.

There is a reason the US targeted Hiroshima and Nagasaki for the A-bombs. The bigger cites (Tokyo, Nagoya, Osaka) had already been firebombed into the stone ages to the point that even an atomic weapon would've been just bouncing rubble (well, bouncing ashes).

On another topic, if that's your GF I'd resign the game to rader. Focusing on her is a strategic victory for you in the long run.

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 6:47:32 PM   
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Ok, i've done a full moon cycle night bombing test.

Starting base: Hakodate
Target Base: Maebashi

At Maebashi i've placed 150 flak guns (88mm and 120mm)

1 group of 64 B-29-25 (60 exp)
1 group of 64 B-29D (60 Exp)
1 group of 30 Liberators VIIIGR (those with 8x 250kg bombs and radars).
1 group of 16 recon planes

Nachtjag is composed by 3 sentais with 70 exp


First rounds (only 64 B-29Ds committed):


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 01, 45

*when you see nothing it means bad weather or "stray"


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 02, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 24
     S1A1 Denko x 27
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 35



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 4


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (4 airborne, 20 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     4 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (2 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     2 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (5 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     5 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 24
     S1A1 Denko x 26
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 34



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 5


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (24 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     24 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (26 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     26 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (28 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     28 plane(s) intercepting now.
     6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 03, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 23
     S1A1 Denko x 24
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 40



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (3 airborne, 20 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     3 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (4 airborne, 20 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     4 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (10 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     10 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 23
     S1A1 Denko x 24
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 39



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 19


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged



Manpower hits 2
Fires 610

Aircraft Attacking:
     19 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     14 plane(s) intercepting now.
     9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     18 plane(s) intercepting now.
     6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (30 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     30 plane(s) intercepting now.
     9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

Some CAP have air radar

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 04, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 05, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 25
     S1A1 Denko x 29
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 37



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 17


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 8 damaged



Manpower hits 1
Fires 551

Aircraft Attacking:
     17 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (3 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     3 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (7 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     7 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (7 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     7 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 23
     S1A1 Denko x 29
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 33



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 19


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 3 damaged



Manpower hits 1
Fires 1076

Aircraft Attacking:
     19 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     23 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (29 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     29 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (30 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     30 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 06, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 74 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 27
     S1A1 Denko x 27
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 37



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 13


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 9 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
     13 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (0 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 18
     S1A1 Denko x 19
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 34



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 16


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 5 damaged



Manpower hits 1
Fires 690

Aircraft Attacking:
     16 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     18 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     19 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (34 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     34 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar

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Now i committed the rest of the groups....
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 07, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 27
     S1A1 Denko x 25
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 40



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 5
     B-29B Superfort x 27


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
     B-29B Superfort: 10 damaged



Manpower hits 1
Fires 636

Aircraft Attacking:
     27 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      5 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 21000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (1 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     1 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 24000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 23
     S1A1 Denko x 19
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 35



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 36


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
     36 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     16 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     11 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (24 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     24 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 11 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 22
     S1A1 Denko x 17
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 34



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 19


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
     19 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     22 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     17 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (34 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     34 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 21
     S1A1 Denko x 16
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 32



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 4


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     21 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     16 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (32 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     32 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 08, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 09, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 29
     S1A1 Denko x 27
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 37



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 27


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 9 damaged
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed by flak



Aircraft Attacking:
     25 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 25000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 26000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (1 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     1 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 24000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 23
     S1A1 Denko x 22
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 27



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 14


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 6 damaged
     B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak



Aircraft Attacking:
     13 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     23 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     22 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (27 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     27 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 20
     S1A1 Denko x 22
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 27



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 4 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     20 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     22 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (27 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     27 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 19
     S1A1 Denko x 22
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 27



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 5 damaged



Manpower hits 1
Fires 618

Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     19 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     22 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (27 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     27 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 19
     S1A1 Denko x 22
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 27



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged
     B-29-25 Superfort: 2 destroyed by flak



Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     19 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     22 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (27 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     27 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 10, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 11, 45-
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 12, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 27
     S1A1 Denko x 25
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 37



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 27


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 19 damaged
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed by flak



Aircraft Attacking:
     27 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 23000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (3 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     3 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 26000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (6 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     6 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 24000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 21
     S1A1 Denko x 19
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 23



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 3 damaged
     B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak



Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     19 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     23 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     18 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 23000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 21
     S1A1 Denko x 19
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 23



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 7 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     19 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     23 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     21 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 19
     S1A1 Denko x 19
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 22



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 4


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     19 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     22 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     19 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 19
     S1A1 Denko x 19
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 21



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 4


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     13 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     18 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     16 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 17
     S1A1 Denko x 19
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 21



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 5 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     19 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     21 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     17 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 17
     S1A1 Denko x 19
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 21



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     19 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     21 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     17 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 13, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 14, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 15, 45
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Here i told all the AA at maebashi to be on strat mod...


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 30
     S1A1 Denko x 29
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 37



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 34
     B-29B Superfort x 48


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 15 damaged
     B-29B Superfort: 14 damaged



Manpower hits 20
Fires 9180

Aircraft Attacking:
     48 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
     34 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (5 airborne, 22 on standby, 3 scrambling)
     5 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (7 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     7 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (7 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     7 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 22
     S1A1 Denko x 26
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 28



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
     C6N1-S Myrt: 1 destroyed
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed by flak



Aircraft Attacking:
      6 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
     17 plane(s) intercepting now.
     2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     20 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     19 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 13
     S1A1 Denko x 19
     Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 16



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
     8 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (10 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     10 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (13 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     13 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes

Some CAP have air radar





Results? 5...i say 5 armament points damaged....nothing else.... i really don't see where the strat night bombing is borked....

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 6:50:01 PM   
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On another topic, if that's your GF I'd resign the game to rader. Focusing on her is a strategic victory for you in the long run.



lol, given how she looks like and when thinking about the Allied position in the game I can only agree...

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 6:54:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy


quote:

ORIGINAL: hades1001

Can anyone confirm that you can trigger Soviet by landing at Korea? Please


AFAIK no...you need to reduce the AV of Manchukuko garrison below 8000...which isn't exactly an easy task...


Unless the IJ reduce the occupation forces to a minimum and suffer some losses ... This was mentioned by moi early in this campaign before "Really Hairy" .. Invade Korea with the idea of cutting off, bombing, and eliminating AV in Manchukyko with the explicit purpose of Soviet Activation. It was considered "gamey" ...

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 6:56:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cribtop


On another topic, if that's your GF I'd resign the game to rader. Focusing on her is a strategic victory for you in the long run.



lol, given how she looks like and when thinking about the Allied position in the game I can only agree...


:-) well, i'm trying to get a strategic victory by making her read an alternate history novel about the german nachtjag, where the night "experten" make a kamikaze attack at Bukingham palace killing the king and churchill during a night meeting

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 6:57:46 PM   
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What was your DL level over the target?  Also, what would the results be if the planes flew in at 10 or 15k?  Does that make a difference?  If so, is the difference worthwhile?

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 6:59:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AcePylut

What was your DL level over the target?  Also, what would the results be if the planes flew in at 10 or 15k?  Does that make a difference?  If so, is the difference worthwhile?


DL levels were at maximum...with the recon planes flying every day at 10k feet without any opposition (no day fighters present)....

Gotta make some tests at 10k....

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 7:16:58 PM   
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Doesn't seem very impressive atm, that firebombing wouldn't do anything.

On the other hand, seems that that would be a pretty minor strike if you wanted to wage a major firebombing campaign.

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 7:20:17 PM   
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Did you have a chance to check what exactly the manpower hit 1, fire 6xx is? Does the fire actually hurt anything else except the man power?

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 7:25:20 PM   
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I believe that invade Korea is find several LV9 AF to strat bombing the west part of Japan, which is basically untouched yet. And the intact HI there are producing 350 Shinden for Japs right now.

Allied won't able to effectively strat bombing with Shinden on cap therefore Shinden factories must go!

For this sole purpose we need to invade Korea. If Japs dare to contest us at Korea, and they happened to loss a bulk of Army during that contest, thus leads to Soviet activation, I don't see why it should considered gamey.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Crackaces


quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy


quote:

ORIGINAL: hades1001

Can anyone confirm that you can trigger Soviet by landing at Korea? Please


AFAIK no...you need to reduce the AV of Manchukuko garrison below 8000...which isn't exactly an easy task...


Unless the IJ reduce the occupation forces to a minimum and suffer some losses ... This was mentioned by moi early in this campaign before "Really Hairy" .. Invade Korea with the idea of cutting off, bombing, and eliminating AV in Manchukyko with the explicit purpose of Soviet Activation. It was considered "gamey" ...



< Message edited by hades1001 -- 1/23/2012 7:26:24 PM >

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 7:26:46 PM   
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Yes, all those fires only damaged 5 points of the armament industry....nothing more....

And eubanana, we're talking about 150 4engines bombers committed....the point is that a huge majority of them , every night, stray and don't reach the target

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 7:30:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Unfortunately we have strict HRs that limits night bombing to 10k feet and to 50 max bombers during the full moon nights.... Not a viable option...



GJ, you are being too way to fair to Rader. The advanced introduction date of his modern fighters was an exploit of a major bug and it does not matter if he did it deliberately or unknowingly. It has given him an undue advantage. I recommend that you have a frank discussion with him about this and perhaps you can work out a solution. This fighter should not show up under the best of circumstances until mid to late 45.

Personally, I would have a big problem it this happened to me and consider it a game breaker. I can't imagine many Japanese players who think this is a reasonable or fair way to play Japan...The Sam is bad enough, but you can expect to see his jets within a few months...

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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 7:32:14 PM   
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Post #: 5933
RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 7:34:48 PM   
witpqs


Posts: 26087
Joined: 10/4/2004
From: Argleton
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

quote:

ORIGINAL: hades1001

Can anyone confirm that you can trigger Soviet by landing at Korea? Please


AFAIK no...you need to reduce the AV of Manchukuko garrison below 8000...which isn't exactly an easy task...


Unless the IJ reduce the occupation forces to a minimum and suffer some losses ... This was mentioned by moi early in this campaign before "Really Hairy" .. Invade Korea with the idea of cutting off, bombing, and eliminating AV in Manchukyko with the explicit purpose of Soviet Activation. It was considered "gamey" ...


Invading Korea and presenting the IJ command with the choice of facing those forces by bringing in troops from China (weakening that front) or Manchuria (risking or outright triggering Soviet Activation) or facing the invasion by bringing in forces from elsewhere + forces present - that seems like a legitimate strategic maneuver to me. Even if those invading forces were success enough that they were sent into Manchuria to attrite IJA forces down below 8,000 AV seems legitimate, as IRL IMO the Soviets would jump in if they saw western troops beating the tar out of the IJA in Manchuria. The Soviets would have the double motive of opportunity and opposing western influences.

I haven't taken part in all the discussions in this AAR, but I think your idea was sound as in not gamey. Maybe it would have been a bridge too far without Suddenly Hairy already a success, though.

(in reply to Crackaces)
Post #: 5934
RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 7:49:30 PM   
Chickenboy


Posts: 24520
Joined: 6/29/2002
From: San Antonio, TX
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: witpqs

quote:

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

quote:

ORIGINAL: hades1001

Can anyone confirm that you can trigger Soviet by landing at Korea? Please


AFAIK no...you need to reduce the AV of Manchukuko garrison below 8000...which isn't exactly an easy task...


Unless the IJ reduce the occupation forces to a minimum and suffer some losses ... This was mentioned by moi early in this campaign before "Really Hairy" .. Invade Korea with the idea of cutting off, bombing, and eliminating AV in Manchukyko with the explicit purpose of Soviet Activation. It was considered "gamey" ...


Invading Korea and presenting the IJ command with the choice of facing those forces by bringing in troops from China (weakening that front) or Manchuria (risking or outright triggering Soviet Activation) or facing the invasion by bringing in forces from elsewhere + forces present - that seems like a legitimate strategic maneuver to me. Even if those invading forces were success enough that they were sent into Manchuria to attrite IJA forces down below 8,000 AV seems legitimate, as IRL IMO the Soviets would jump in if they saw western troops beating the tar out of the IJA in Manchuria. The Soviets would have the double motive of opportunity and opposing western influences.

I haven't taken part in all the discussions in this AAR, but I think your idea was sound as in not gamey. Maybe it would have been a bridge too far without Suddenly Hairy already a success, though.


Well, so long as we're talking theoretically about what the Soviets would have done in this alternate history...

I suspect that the Soviets would be seriously angry about the surprise (mostly) American invasion of Hokkaido and Honshu with ground troops. The presence of so many American troops right on the Soviet Frontier, let alone and Japanese home islands would be causing conniptions in top Sov circles. I wouldn't put it past Uncle Joe to politically protest or make it harder for the Americans to move further into the Asian mainland. Expect them to expedite their Manchurian invasion at all hazards.

As the Sovs would likely have to use some forces from their European front in this area, this would clearly reduce their ability to shoulder the entirety of land combat in the European continent. I would expect them to clearly-very clearly-remind the Allies what the price would be to their backing off the pressure on the Germans at this tender period in the war. Think Ike wants another 10 German Divisions in Normandy before June, 1944? Think Marshall might put some pressure on the conduct of the Pacific war? I'd argue that all signs would be to 'slow things down' in and around Japan, particularly on the Asian mainland.

So, if you're stumping for a fight on Korea, I say you're also looking to weaken Russia's cooperation in the Soviet Far East, increasing the likelihood of immediate Soviet activation and capture of Manchuria themselves.

I think the Soviets would have 'jumped' based upon this massive surprise attack on Hokkaido, the Kuriles and now Honshu. Any Korean expedition would merely be icing on the cake. I also think there would be cries from Washington about adventurism and slowing things down-lest the Normandy invasion have unanticipated resistance.

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Post #: 5935
RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 7:59:56 PM   
GreyJoy


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Another run. 15k feet. less night fighters and only 8 AA guns present (but 20cm AA guns).

only 2 engine factory points damaged after 12 days of bombings....


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 01, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 02, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     S1A1 Denko x 32



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 36
     B-29-25 Superfort x 36


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
     B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged



Manpower hits 6
Fires 3547

Aircraft Attacking:
     36 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
     36 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (10 airborne, 21 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     10 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes



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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     S1A1 Denko x 31



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak



Manpower hits 2
Fires 4162

Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (26 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     26 plane(s) intercepting now.
     4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes



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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     S1A1 Denko x 30



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 5


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Manpower hits 1
Fires 4250

Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (28 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     28 plane(s) intercepting now.
     1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 03, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     S1A1 Denko x 24



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 36
     B-29B Superfort x 36


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged



Manpower hits 23
Fires 7430

Aircraft Attacking:
     36 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
     36 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (4 airborne, 18 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     4 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 39370.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes



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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     S1A1 Denko x 22



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 19


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged



Manpower hits 1
Fires 7583

Aircraft Attacking:
     19 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     17 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 39370.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes



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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     S1A1 Denko x 22



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
     S1A1 Denko: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     17 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 39370.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes



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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     S1A1 Denko x 20



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 4


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     15 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 39370.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 04, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 05, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 32
     S1A1 Denko x 22



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 5
     B-29B Superfort x 48


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
     B-29B Superfort: 3 damaged



Manpower hits 23
Fires 16071

Aircraft Attacking:
     48 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      5 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (6 airborne, 24 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     6 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 22000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (5 airborne, 16 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     5 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 21000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 30
     S1A1 Denko x 19



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 10


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged



Manpower hits 4
Fires 13983

Aircraft Attacking:
     10 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (28 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     28 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 16000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     18 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 21000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 29
     S1A1 Denko x 19



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      7 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (27 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     27 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 16000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     18 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 21000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 06, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 27
     S1A1 Denko x 16



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 33
     B-29-25 Superfort x 5
     B-29B Superfort x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 4 damaged
     B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged



Manpower hits 7
Fires 6539

Aircraft Attacking:
     33 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
      9 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (3 airborne, 22 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     3 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 57 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (3 airborne, 12 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     3 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 27
     S1A1 Denko x 13



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 16


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged



Manpower hits 2
Fires 7879

Aircraft Attacking:
     15 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     20 plane(s) intercepting now.
     5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     12 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 26
     S1A1 Denko x 13



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 16


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged



Manpower hits 4
Fires 10559

Aircraft Attacking:
     15 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (24 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     24 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     12 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 26
     S1A1 Denko x 11



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 8


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Manpower hits 1
Fires 11313

Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (24 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     24 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     10 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 23
     S1A1 Denko x 11



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 8


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     21 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     10 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 23
     S1A1 Denko x 9



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 4


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Manpower hits 1
Fires 11988

Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     21 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     8 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 07, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 28
     S1A1 Denko x 14



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 5
     B-29B Superfort x 39


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Manpower hits 4
Fires 4548

Aircraft Attacking:
     39 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      5 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (4 airborne, 22 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     4 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 19000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     3 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 27
     S1A1 Denko x 14



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 15


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
     15 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     22 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 19000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     8 plane(s) intercepting now.
     5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 26
     S1A1 Denko x 14



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     21 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 19000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     8 plane(s) intercepting now.
     5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 25
     S1A1 Denko x 14



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     20 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 19000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     13 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 24
     S1A1 Denko x 14



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 4


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     19 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 19000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     13 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 08, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 31
     S1A1 Denko x 14



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 27
     B-29-25 Superfort x 21


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged
     B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged



Manpower hits 3
Fires 2190

Aircraft Attacking:
     27 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
     21 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (6 airborne, 24 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     6 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     3 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 21000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 24
     S1A1 Denko x 13



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 12


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged



Manpower hits 5
Fires 2591

Aircraft Attacking:
     12 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     23 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     9 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 21000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 24
     S1A1 Denko x 12



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 20


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged



Manpower hits 1
Fires 2911

Aircraft Attacking:
     20 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     23 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     8 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 21000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 24
     S1A1 Denko x 10



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 4


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Manpower hits 3
Fires 9010

Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     23 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     9 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 24
     S1A1 Denko x 10



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     23 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     9 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 09, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 30
     S1A1 Denko x 19



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 33


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged



Manpower hits 1
Fires 1594

Aircraft Attacking:
     32 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (7 airborne, 22 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     7 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (5 airborne, 12 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     5 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 28
     S1A1 Denko x 17



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 16


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged



Manpower hits 4
Fires 3860

Aircraft Attacking:
     16 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     15 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     21 plane(s) intercepting now.
     6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 58 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 26
     S1A1 Denko x 17



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged



Manpower hits 2
Fires 5060

Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     15 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     22 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 25
     S1A1 Denko x 16



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
     S1A1 Denko: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
     14 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     21 plane(s) intercepting now.
     3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 58 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 21
     S1A1 Denko x 14



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 5


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses



Manpower hits 1
Fires 5518

Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     14 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000
     Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     20 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 21
     S1A1 Denko x 14



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
     S1A1 Denko: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
     14 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000
     Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     20 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 10, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 11, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 12, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 66 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 28
     S1A1 Denko x 17



Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 35
     B-29-25 Superfort x 9
     B-29B Superfort x 21


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
     B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged
     B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged



Manpower hits 6
Fires 3702

Aircraft Attacking:
     35 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
     21 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      9 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (4 airborne, 20 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     4 plane(s) intercepting now.
     0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 21000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (4 airborne, 12 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     4 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 21000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 19
     S1A1 Denko x 9



Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 26


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged



Manpower hits 6
Fires 6677

Aircraft Attacking:
     26 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     18 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     8 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     C6N1-S Myrt x 19
     S1A1 Denko x 8



Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
              City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     18 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
     7 plane(s) intercepting now.
     Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
     Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes

Some CAP have air radar


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Post #: 5936
RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 8:02:20 PM   
GreyJoy


Posts: 6750
Joined: 3/18/2011
Status: offline
Then i swicthed for 3 nights on Tokyo airfields where 1300 planes were grounded... 150 flak guns present (those that starts with downfall scenario). 10,000 feet, no night fighters....

results of the whole test run (16 days) in the screenshot...

...i really don't find night bombing borked in any way....



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 13, 45
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 31


Japanese aircraft losses
     A6M7 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed on ground
     S1A1 Denko: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 10 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
     6 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
     31 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 32


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 9 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
     32 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 4


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 3 damaged



Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
     A6M7 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 5 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 14, 45

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 15, 45
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 21
     B-29B Superfort x 45


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 2 destroyed on ground
     S1A1 Denko: 2 destroyed on ground
     Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed on ground
     K5Y1 Willow: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-43-IV Oscar: 3 destroyed on ground
     Ki-46-III Dinah: 2 destroyed on ground
     Ki-9 Spruce: 1 destroyed on ground
     L2D2 Tabby: 1 destroyed on ground
     A6M7 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged
     B-29B Superfort: 6 damaged
     B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
     5 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 45

Aircraft Attacking:
     44 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
     21 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 23


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-36 Ida: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged
     B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
     23 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 7 damaged



Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 16, 45
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 9
     B-29-25 Superfort x 43
     B-29B Superfort x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-9 Spruce: 2 destroyed on ground
     Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 1 destroyed on ground
     K5Y1 Willow: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
     A6M7 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged
     B-29-25 Superfort: 14 damaged
     B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
     43 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      9 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 16


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 5 damaged



Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
     16 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-9 Spruce: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb








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< Message edited by GreyJoy -- 1/23/2012 8:03:31 PM >

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Post #: 5937
RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 8:06:44 PM   
witpqs


Posts: 26087
Joined: 10/4/2004
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Status: offline
I disagree that they would have pulled troops from the European front. That was simply too important to them, and to Stalin himself. Would they have Activated upon the invasion of Hokkiado? I don't know, but I suppose it's possible as I do agree about their concerns. If they did, that of course would make the Allies job a bit easier on Hokkaido and northern Honshu and vice versa. I suppose I'm being a bit conservative when I say, in effect 'if the Allies weakened the IJA in Manchuria below 8,000 AV the Soviets would Activate IRL'. But to the matter of would doing that be gamey, I think it's clear that it would not be. Certainly I'm not advocating an HR to trigger Soviet Activation for something other than the drop below 8,000 AV (although such HRs for other contests are of course quite valid, I'm just speaking about GJ & Rader's contest).

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Post #: 5938
RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE! - 1/23/2012 8:15:33 PM   
Chickenboy


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Joined: 6/29/2002
From: San Antonio, TX
Status: offline
Right. So, something to model the political cost to the Americans of an early Soviet activation should be considered. After all, this may not have been a 'good' thing for the American high command. So, I propose that early activation of the Soviets be done by a home islands invasion, an Allied Korean invasion or-last but not least-an Allied Manchurian invasion.

Any pre-scheduled Soviet activation instigated by the Allies, would have the effect of costing approximately 2,000 political points to the Allied WiTP:AE command. This charge would reflect the serious political costs (post-war) of a greater than historical Soviet force distribution / political influence throughout the area.

But, no, in GreyJoy and Rader's game, an Allied invasion of Korea is in no way gamey and does not appear to be in contravention of any HRs. I'm just suggesting that it (whether or not the Manchurian garrison is weakened below 8,000AV) should immediately activate the Soviets. There should be post-war consideration to the conduct of the war, much as there are VP level limitations once 2+ atomic bombs are used. Perhaps an early Soviet activation due to aforementioned Allied invasion could shift the victory level down one? Yes. That sounds better.

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I believe the Manpower attacks need to be at less than 10,000ft to have the desired effect, and sustained on a daily basis.

Note that FIRES are the only way to actually destroy factories rather than just damaging them.

I have had some success with unopposed Sallies in China doing this, so B-29s shouldn't really have a problem. I would consider sending over night fighters in sweeps to get rid of the Japanese night fighters thereby allowing the bombers to deliver their ordnance in an un-disrupted and more accurate manner.

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