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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/18/2012 7:58:27 PM   
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Looks like someone isn't plotting their minefields accurately in accordance with international law:

TF 1 encounters mine field at Port Hedland (57,129)

Japanese Ships
SS I-123, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

TF 1 encounters mine field at Port Hedland (57,129)

Japanese Ships
SS I-123, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

TF 357 encounters mine field at Port Hedland (57,129)

Japanese Ships
SS I-154, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage



There seems to be a lot of that about. Perhaps the third party mining firms need more rigorous regulation? What happens to a Jap I boat when it hits TWO mines? It was probably the severed conning tower flying 300 yds downrange and striking a second mine.

One of our own DD's didn't get the memo, either.

TF 172 encounters mine field at Port Hedland (57,129)

Allied Ships
DD Hull, Mine hits 1, heavy damage


Did we hit our own offensive minefield or a Jap defensive minefield or........?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/18/2012 8:02:17 PM   
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Did we hit our own offensive minefield


Nope, we haven't laid any mines there.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/18/2012 8:07:47 PM   
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Did we hit our own offensive minefield


Nope, we haven't laid any mines there.


Yes...I just sent in two CM's I found lolling about in Perth

If I had known it would sink our own ships then I might have chosen differently. I wish you people would tell me these things.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/18/2012 8:13:23 PM   
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Ah, that could make re-supply more, er, interesting...

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/18/2012 8:17:38 PM   
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I wish you people would tell me these things


6.6.1
(there is a small
chance that a ship will hit a friendly minefield, but this is very unlikely).


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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/18/2012 8:24:52 PM   
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quote:

I wish you people would tell me these things


6.6.1
(there is a small
chance that a ship will hit a friendly minefield, but this is very unlikely).




Perhaps the captain of USS Hull had not read the manual either.

At one point there WAS a LYB minefield there. Not sure if they all rusted away.

By ra way. If you plan to attack Corunna again we have a para unit ready at Meekathara to get a free shock bonus. Most likely some air to ground attacks combined with the uparmoured sorghum harvesters at Corunna will be enough to push it to 2:1

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/18/2012 8:28:31 PM   
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para unit ready at Meekathara


If I can have some transports. I think we'll also attack at PH today too.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/18/2012 8:29:27 PM   
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If we can keep the mediums on PH all the heavies can go to Darwin/Broome/Katherine.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/18/2012 8:34:56 PM   
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********************Dec. 22, 1942(c)*****************

Darwin: That minefield that Fr. O'Brien put in East of Bathurst must be a ball buster. It took the PT boats that STARTED in the field 12 hrs to get through so they ended up in a daytime duel with Jap DD's

Day Time Surface Combat, near Darwin at 76,124, Range 15,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Akizuki
DD Arashio
DD Natsugumo
DD Murasame
DD Isonami

Allied Ships
PT-143, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-148, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-149, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-170, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT-172, Shell hits 2, and is sunk


Siri was right. It IS possible to do an 8 hex fighter sweep from Allied carriers in 1942. Unfortunately, they two squadrons went in separately and were overmatched. I don't really like trading F4F's for Tojo pilot fatigue.

Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 19



Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed


and then...


Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 9
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 17



Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed


< Message edited by Cap Mandrake -- 4/19/2012 3:49:29 PM >

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/18/2012 8:38:07 PM   
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We can start doing this soon:

Also, air dropped mines are an option here if a city with a port is targeted. Air dropped mine
Missions may not be flown before 1943.


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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/18/2012 8:44:54 PM   
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para unit ready at Meekathara


If I can have some transports. I think we'll also attack at PH today too.



Right...it's a full Bn so it will take about 30 transports or so. They would have to come over from Tennant Creek...which is OK as it is running out of supply anyway.

Also, FYI, Gove may be a better spot for origination of para drops near Darwin as opposed to Daly as Gove can be supplied by sea. If you have a spare company, Bathurst would also be a good target so the amphibious troops wont be as disrupted.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/19/2012 1:42:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake


quote:

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Looks like someone isn't plotting their minefields accurately in accordance with international law:

TF 1 encounters mine field at Port Hedland (57,129)

Japanese Ships
SS I-123, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

TF 1 encounters mine field at Port Hedland (57,129)

Japanese Ships
SS I-123, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

TF 357 encounters mine field at Port Hedland (57,129)

Japanese Ships
SS I-154, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage



There seems to be a lot of that about. Perhaps the third party mining firms need more rigorous regulation? What happens to a Jap I boat when it hits TWO mines? It was probably the severed conning tower flying 300 yds downrange and striking a second mine.

One of our own DD's didn't get the memo, either.

TF 172 encounters mine field at Port Hedland (57,129)

Allied Ships
DD Hull, Mine hits 1, heavy damage


Did we hit our own offensive minefield or a Jap defensive minefield or........?


Re: the question about mine damage, Canoerebel had the same question in his War and Peas AAR. Here is the text of my reply to him:

Re: subs and mines [as opposed to hearts and minds or clowns and mimes] - Pre-upgrade I always thought the effect of mines was underpowered vs. real life. No way should a sub with little reserve bouyancy survive a mine hit. Post upgrade, the question came up so I did a little test. I started up Scenario 1 and moved a few of the IJN subs around Pearl Harbour to patrol in the mined base. I learned:

One mine hit ~ 25 pts floatation damage and similar system damage. Most survive a long trip home.

Three mine hits ~ 65 floatation damage and difficult to control because of the similar system damage. Almost all subs with three hits sink within six hexes.

Mine damage does not take effect until the end of the phase [night or day] or until the ship or sub is involved in combat in the same phase. This means one sub could hit five or six mines and the damage does not register until much later. Darned annoying when mine production is so low.

Bottom line - mine effects are still underpowered. I guess this is good for the game experience as you can dare to sneak into a mined port, but IRL such raids were unlikely.


Your question was about two mine hits on an I-boat. I'd give it 35-55 damage and 50-50 on chances of surviving a long trip to a friendly base.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/19/2012 2:42:48 PM   
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Chalk that up to the I-boat mine bonus which is in the vein of the Zero bonus and the Donkey bonus.

I-123 survives 2 mines but USS Hull sinks with one.


So Pocahantas Gril calls Stalker Gril for advice. It seems Pocahantas Gril got cited for no seat belt.

CHip: I pulled you over ma'am for no seat belt.

PG: But I do have it on, officer. I just dont wear the shoulder strap. See. <shoulder strap is under her arm pit, under the tatats and thusly>

CHip: Ma'am, that is still a vioaltion.

PG: But I had a boob job and it hurts if I wear the strap across my boobs. See. <she readjusts and the thing pretty much disappears>

CHip: <does due diligence in examining the situation> We will grant a medical exemption with a doctor's note, ma'am.

So she gets cited and calls up Stalker Girl to see if I will sign it, the Pediatrician. I advised SG to tell PG to ask her plastic surgeon. I saw her while I was walking the dogs and pretended to look down at the trail so I wouldn't get stuck in a "curbside consult".


Here is the more salient question. How on Earth do you manage NOT to get out of a ticket when you are showing the male CHP officer your new bolt-ons? Somebody needs to teach her how to flirt...never mind..I know she knows how. Maybe the ChiP was gay? He thought it was an internal investigation? Something was wrong in the world yesterday.

SG got out a speeding ticket going NINETY MPH!!!! I would have been handcuffed and hauled away.


Yesterday, the Tata Bonus did not work.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/19/2012 4:08:59 PM   
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Perhaps the CHiP reads your AAR and was waiting for the 'proof of commando' defence?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/19/2012 4:56:31 PM   
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SG got out a speeding ticket going NINETY MPH!!!! I would have been handcuffed and hauled away.


Yes. What do you think SG did to merit such preferential treatment, Cap'n?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/19/2012 6:02:51 PM   
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quote:

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SG got out a speeding ticket going NINETY MPH!!!! I would have been handcuffed and hauled away.


Yes. What do you think SG did to merit such preferential treatment, Cap'n?


I actually wondered the same thing. She claims it was because it was her birthday in 2 d.

OK...show of hands. Who thinks this in going to work?



The invasion, I mean.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/19/2012 6:43:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake


quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


quote:

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SG got out a speeding ticket going NINETY MPH!!!! I would have been handcuffed and hauled away.


Yes. What do you think SG did to merit such preferential treatment, Cap'n?


I actually wondered the same thing. She claims it was because it was her birthday in 2 d.

OK...show of hands. Who thinks this in going to work?



The invasion, I mean.



[Puts up hand]

[rereads what show of hands is supposed to indicate]

[Puts down hand]

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/19/2012 6:45:07 PM   
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Oh, I'm kidding. Don't get your AFB undies in a bunch.

Yeah, your invasion will work. Don't know if JJ's navy / AF will extract a steep price for your effort, but you should get ashore in sufficient strength to get the job done.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/19/2012 7:32:24 PM   
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Oh, I'm kidding. Don't get your AFB undies in a bunch.

Yeah, your invasion will work. Don't know if JJ's navy / AF will extract a steep price for your effort, but you should get ashore in sufficient strength to get the job done.


Damned by faint praise.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/19/2012 7:32:48 PM   
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Chalk that up to the I-boat mine bonus which is in the vein of the Zero bonus and the Donkey bonus.

I-123 survives 2 mines but USS Hull sinks with one.



Did another experiment with JJ DDs in Singapore harbour ► one or two mine hits = survival: N three hits brings an order to report to a Mr. Davey Jones «
Seems there is a bit of a JJ anti-mine bonus for DDs too - or maybe Milo was selling the allies mines filled with sand ...

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/19/2012 7:33:33 PM   
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Duplicate. I hate my ISP.

< Message edited by sprior -- 4/19/2012 7:35:05 PM >


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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/21/2012 12:23:47 PM   
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Dec 22nd 1941.

Not Good:

Ground combat at Port Hedland (57,129)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17618 troops, 467 guns, 474 vehicles, Assault Value = 480

Defending force 41625 troops, 422 guns, 214 vehicles, Assault Value = 868

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 166

Japanese adjusted defense: 2827

Allied assault odds: 1 to 17 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
527 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 81 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
702 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 63 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 70 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 25 (5 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 59 (6 destroyed, 53 disabled
)

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/21/2012 12:24:37 PM   
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Good:

Ground combat at Corunna Downs (57,131)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1046 troops, 0 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 48

Defending force 559 troops, 23 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 26

Allied adjusted assault: 19

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Corunna Downs !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
289 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 15 (8 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!


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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/21/2012 12:34:26 PM   
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Ho hum:

Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29



Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 16
Hurricane IIb Trop x 21
Hurricane IIc Trop x 5
Liberator II x 16
Wellington Ic x 12
B-24D Liberator x 10
B-25C Mitchell x 20
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 15
P-40K Warhawk x 13


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 2 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 24


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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/21/2012 3:59:24 PM   
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OK, "not good" but not bad either. Look at the casualty ratios of squads. It could have been a whole lot worse at 1 to 17 odds. Obviously the Allied forces have to get a lot stronger before attacking again there but this is a good omen.

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ORIGINAL: sprior

Dec 22nd 1941.

Not Good:

Ground combat at Port Hedland (57,129)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17618 troops, 467 guns, 474 vehicles, Assault Value = 480

Defending force 41625 troops, 422 guns, 214 vehicles, Assault Value = 868

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 166

Japanese adjusted defense: 2827

Allied assault odds: 1 to 17 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
527 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 81 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
702 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 63 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 70 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 25 (5 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 59 (6 destroyed, 53 disabled
)


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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/21/2012 4:19:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sprior

Dec 22nd 1941.

Not Good:

Ground combat at Port Hedland (57,129)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17618 troops, 467 guns, 474 vehicles, Assault Value = 480

Defending force 41625 troops, 422 guns, 214 vehicles, Assault Value = 868

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 166

Japanese adjusted defense: 2827

Allied assault odds: 1 to 17 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
527 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 81 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
702 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 63 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 70 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 25 (5 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 59 (6 destroyed, 53 disabled
)


Literally months of air attacks. No suppry convoys in a RONG time. Airfield atacks with suppry hits. AND they rost the Imperial Wizard advisor group. That has got to be some seriously good Kool-aide.

How does the combat value go from 868 to 2827 with level four forts? What have they got, plasma cannons?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/21/2012 4:21:15 PM   
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I hate those fricken' Tojos.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/21/2012 4:29:14 PM   
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**********Dec 23, 1942(c)*********


Darwin: P-38's take up residence at Meraueke and make the long flight to Darwin. For some reason, the two fresh F4F squadrons detailed to sweep over Darwin from the carriers do not fly.

Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 16



Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed


The Beaufighters from Gove. At least the numbers of planes over Darwin are declining.

Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 28,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 9
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11



Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 5


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses


A night raid from Merauke does not go in but the daytime B-17 raid does. All the B-24's at Alice are grounded...weather? Too bad. Tojos are discovered to be on the ground in Darwin now. Good..we can break them in their puny reventments.

Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11



Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 14


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 7 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 19


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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/21/2012 4:58:12 PM   
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Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 16
Hurricane IIb Trop x 21
Hurricane IIc Trop x 5
Liberator II x 16
Wellington Ic x 12
B-24D Liberator x 10
B-25C Mitchell x 20
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 15
P-40K Warhawk x 13


9 aircraft types, at least 2 Air HQ, 2 nationalities...quite satisfying from an aesthetic and coordination standpoint although there is the minor annoyance of the Tojos shooting down the escorts. Turn lose the Hurricane sweeps on them. They gave up protecting Myitkynia. The Tojo jockeys will ask to be transfered to Australia.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/21/2012 5:03:15 PM   
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I lost the election by 4 votes out of a potential 60 or so votes. My opponent was better looking, younger and she actually had a strategic plan.

I tried for the old guard vote. I realized belatedly I was actually using the Chicago method (getting demented old people to vote for me) but I failed to fully implement the strategy, having failed to secure the felon, illegal alien and dead people votes. I deserved to lose really.

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