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Saigon - 5/22/2012 9:45:18 PM

NormS3

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Does anyone know the ship size limit to be able to sail into/from Saigon? It seems to be nothing bigger than a DD, is that based on class or tonage?

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RE: Saigon - 5/22/2012 10:10:13 PM

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If I remember right the port is 25-30'. Should be good enough for your heavy cruisers and smaller. Probably not any of your carriers even though they might have been able to get their draft shallow enough with a reduced load. The game doesn't get that deep (no pun intended).

Search CVE Saigon Attack and you'll get an interesting read. Whether the port was dredged sometime between WWII and 1964 is another question.

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RE: Saigon - 5/22/2012 10:27:13 PM

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Thanks. I never knew that about the Card. I was familiar with her ww2 service but not her history after.
That's why i love this forum, i learn something new here every day.

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RE: Saigon - 5/22/2012 10:55:40 PM

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CamRanh bay is a pretty good port for the early phase, stick in a few AR ships
to help repair stuff

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RE: Saigon - 5/22/2012 11:23:50 PM

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Thanks. Already knew that. But question is about use of river to saigon.

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RE: Saigon - 5/22/2012 11:41:32 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Norm3

Does anyone know the ship size limit to be able to sail into/from Saigon? It seems to be nothing bigger than a DD, is that based on class or tonage?

Section 4.2.1.4. 15,000 tons.

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RE: Saigon - 5/22/2012 11:45:52 PM

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Great! Many thanks!
only have editor with me.
Gotta remember to transfer manual onto thumb drive. . .

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RE: Saigon - 5/23/2012 11:31:12 AM

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Since the French CL Lamotte Piquette was actually there - along with Aramis - an AP that enters Japanese service
as Teia Maru - clearly cruiser sized vessels and ships bigger than AKLs can go there. I sailed up the Mekong far
beyond Saigon on a 4200 ton "destroyer" in the Vietnam war.

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RE: Saigon - 5/23/2012 7:18:47 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Norm3

Great! Many thanks!
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Gotta remember to transfer manual onto thumb drive. . .

Embellishing . . .

Note that section relates the rules for navigable river hexes, of which there are a number. I don't have a comprehensive list, but I believe it includes Palembang, Rangoon, Saigon, and Portland, Oregon at least. If you're playing the Japanese you need to plan well when invading Palembang and when bringing supply convoys into Rangoon. Rangoon can better be invaded IMO from Pegu which is not on a river.

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