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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/24/2012 5:04:10 PM

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I'm not really looking at this because I always play the Allies, but dude, you know the forum rules say you can have three running AARs and no more, right?

You seem adept at flinging "stuff" in these threads. You got a cite for this one? Reading the Matrix FAQ on the forums I see no such "rule." Storage space is cheap, and AARs are a core use of these forums.

If you don't have a cite, how about not running newbies off the tracks when they're doing a good job learning a complex game?

C'mon Moose, I was totally teasing (I just made that up), is there no room for levity in this forum? Kinda like there's no crying in baseball?

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/24/2012 6:11:07 PM

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Gents, Gents!!!

Anytime I see a

I cannot take the sentence seriously. I cannot take myself seriously most of the time!!!

I'm glad for ANY post here as I dont feel so lonely posting alone... (kind of like drinking come to think about it...LOL!!!)

Bullwinkle - you make a good point about suggestions being filtered bacause of OPSEC here, and I'm good with that, because the hardcore experienced players would look at my play, shake thier heads and say "tsk tsk-so sad". This is my first time against a PBEM (human) player. I feel I could quote in my sleep what the A.I. will do as Japan, having played 30-45 scenarios and campaigns in the past two years I've had this game.

Playing against Larry, who by the way does one of the nicest AAR's on here (shameless fanboy plug...) as my opponent is just icing on the cake. I laughed when I saw his "altered" map of P.I. (although its not TOO far from the truth!) We talked it over and figured there were enough newbies who could learn with us and from our mistakes as there were experienced players who could toss out gems of advice... ergo the joint AAR!

Finally Larry and I have been averaging a turn a day so far - I dont think it will last forever, but we'll ride that horse as far as it will go.

Thanks to both of you for reading and posting here, comments of all types are welcome!

Jim

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/24/2012 6:22:29 PM

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Against the AI you can get quite a bit of stuff out, there's two Dutch HQ units I like to pull for future use. I don't believe it's feasible to get much of anything (except ships) out of Singapore though. As to route, Perth, just use AKs and AKLs to fuel the short range stuff. The PP problem is a matter of your own priorities and balance. I like to get as much Aussie stuff on ships as I can, going to reinforce or occupy places like PM, Tulagi, Espiritu Santo and Noumea before it's too late. Also those P40 sqs at Manila are just too valuable to defend the indefensible and I withdraw them to Australia post haste. Also there's some US combat engineer units that need to be released and loaded on ships and sent to places like Midway, Palmyra and Canton Island to both fortify them and then help defend them.

Now that I see that this is a joint AAR like I have going with vontiger, what would be more entertaining would be for you guys to do a lot more smack talk. Taunting should be encouraged. Also, ranting about how unfair the game is and how it loves your opponent and hates you is socially acceptible.

Now, here is where I admit to being a dumbass, as though that wasn't already obvious, but that last screen grab with the rows and rows of Japanese TFs, what the heck is that? I've never played a Reluctant Admiral so maybe I don't know how it works, are those false reports or what?

OK - I wasn't aware there was a way to move the P-40's off P.I. How are you changing the HQ?
I cant even load the planes on ships in regular WITP-AE. (they are greyed out in the lists) I was able to change one of the B-17's HQ's but it was an expensive change PP wise...um No Larry it wasnt in this game

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/24/2012 6:34:30 PM

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I'm not really looking at this because I always play the Allies, but dude, you know the forum rules say you can have three running AARs and no more, right?

You seem adept at flinging "stuff" in these threads. You got a cite for this one? Reading the Matrix FAQ on the forums I see no such "rule." Storage space is cheap, and AARs are a core use of these forums.

If you don't have a cite, how about not running newbies off the tracks when they're doing a good job learning a complex game?

C'mon Moose, I was totally teasing (I just made that up), is there no room for levity in this forum? Kinda like there's no crying in baseball?

No, there isn't when it clearly isn't taken that way. Larry ended a perfectly good AAR, in which it seemed he was getting good learning, based on your contention. His reponse clearly shows he did not take it as a joke.

Perhaps you're not as hilarious as you see yourself.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/24/2012 6:37:42 PM

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Gents, Gents!!!

Anytime I see a I cannot take the sentence seriously. I cannot take myself seriously most of the time!!!

I'm glad for ANY post here as I dont feel so lonely posting alone... (kind of like drinking come to think about it...LOL!!!)

Bullwinkle - you make a good point about suggestions being filtered bacause of OPSEC here, and I'm good with that, because the hardcore experienced players would look at my play, shake thier heads and say "tsk tsk-so sad". This is my first time against a PBEM (human) player. I feel I could quote in my sleep what the A.I. will do as Japan, having played 30-45 scenarios and campaigns in the past two years I've had this game.

Playing against Larry, who by the way does one of the nicest AAR's on here (shameless fanboy plug...) as my opponent is just icing on the cake. I laughed when I saw his "altered" map of P.I. (although its not TOO far from the truth!) We talked it over and figured there were enough newbies who could learn with us and from our mistakes as there were experienced players who could toss out gems of advice... ergo the joint AAR!

Finally Larry and I have been averaging a turn a day so far - I dont think it will last forever, but we'll ride that horse as far as it will go.

Thanks to both of you for reading and posting here, comments of all types are welcome!

Jim

I was posting in Larry's AAR and I would post in one you wrote as well (I know the Allies a lot better), but I'm not interested in posting in a combined for the reason I gave. If you wait awhile I think you'll see you and Larry becoming the sole residents of this one. I could be wrong, but I think you'd each get more input and eyeballs if you split them up.

Regardless of what you do I didn't want this one to be predicated on a lie by another poster.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/24/2012 6:42:02 PM

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It takes a lot of PPs, but the Aussies have zero fighters and aren't going to get any so any US ones you can get there may well be worth it. I like the B-17s too but I usually have to delay before I can afford the PPs. Don't try putting them on ships, they'll just get sunk. P-40s can go quite a ways if you have enough supplies at the bases you use for the trip so they can use drop tanks. I forget which ones have that excess but typically I may use Cagayan, Macado, Ternate, Ambon and/or Lautern then Darwin and you're home free.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/24/2012 6:57:42 PM

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I'm not really looking at this because I always play the Allies, but dude, you know the forum rules say you can have three running AARs and no more, right?

You seem adept at flinging "stuff" in these threads. You got a cite for this one? Reading the Matrix FAQ on the forums I see no such "rule." Storage space is cheap, and AARs are a core use of these forums.

If you don't have a cite, how about not running newbies off the tracks when they're doing a good job learning a complex game?

C'mon Moose, I was totally teasing (I just made that up), is there no room for levity in this forum? Kinda like there's no crying in baseball?

No, there isn't when it clearly isn't taken that way. Larry ended a perfectly good AAR, in which it seemed he was getting good learning, based on your contention. His reponse clearly shows he did not take it as a joke.

Perhaps you're not as hilarious as you see yourself.

Perhaps you are right, I surely do, but I reread his response and I'm too dense I guess to see what you see (I thought he was kidding about ending that AAR), Larry? I'm really sorry, I meant no disrespect, please continue that AAR and as many others as you like. Oh by the way, I was growing up just outside of Chanute AFB and had relations with many USAF people and their kids. I saw stuff like you describe on TV, but nothing remotely similar ever happened in Rantoul, we were all pro servicemen (volunteer or draft) even my pacifist parents (they were clergy) whose clients included many servicemen and their families.

Moo, was the advice I gave in my last post over the line? Should I stop posting here? I am known to get out of line sometimes.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/24/2012 7:02:12 PM

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Now that I see that this is a joint AAR like I have going with vontiger, what would be more entertaining would be for you guys to do a lot more smack talk. Taunting should be encouraged. Also, ranting about how unfair the game is and how it loves your opponent and hates you is socially acceptible.

Moo is a gentleman and has real life issues that would preclude any smacking talk even in jest. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will scar me for life. Or something like that. On the other hand a good RA 4.2 smackdown can generate a better opponent for future battles. I always learn more from my mistakes than something I do correctly. I haven't seen any out and out mistakes on the part of Moo yet. And believe me, I'm looking for them. Moo plays a lot like me which isn't all that surprising since we're both still learning. This is a friendly game between the two of us, or at least it started out that way, and I for one have so many real life smack downs I could really use a good friendly game. I'd tell you about them but you'd start crying.

Okay.....I'll tell you one. And this one still bothers me. When I came back from Vietnam for the second time I saw young people throwing red paint on the veterans and calling them "baby killer" etc. Some of those guys were drafted and didn't have a choice whether to go or not. Some of those guys were like me and volunteered because they thought it was the right thing to do. Most of them couldn't find a decent job somewhere else and it was the Army or nothing. But none of them deserved awstracism for what they did. They didn't deserve the bigotry and prejudgice that America showed them after returning. People would stare at me if I wore my combat boots when I went somewhere. Yeah, when I passed they would stop walking, turn around and stare. Like I was a monster or something. I haven't forgiven Joe Sixpack and Susie Mae bathrobe for their behavior even yet and it's been like 45 years ago now. My sister finally, in 2004, thanked me for my service and it was only because she was my sister that I didn't tell her it was too futher mucking little too futher muckiing late. And thanks for nothing. Thank you very much.

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Now, here is where I admit to being a dumbass, as though that wasn't already obvious, but that last screen grab with the rows and rows of Japanese TFs, what the heck is that? I've never played a Reluctant Admiral so maybe I don't know how it works, are those false reports or what?

(1) Those were real TF's that actually and really were right where they were depicted as being.or (2) I did a cut and paste of a TF and multiplied it many times over to confuse and flammox the reader as to the real whereabouts of my actual TF's so as to maintain OPSEC..

Larry,
First - I want to tell a story - as a 12 yr old, I met a guy who was a WWII veteran. His left hand only had 3 fingers, he told me then and I'll never forget it, "I was one of the lucky ones who came home" when he told me his tales as a B-26 pilot... he was on his 30th mission in 1943 when his plane got hit in attacking an desert fort in Africa. His co-pilot got killed and he crash landed back at his base - thats where he lost his fingers... He told me something else I'll remember ot this day " I went because they told me to go - I fought because they told me to fight - and I'll vote in every election because I EARNED that right doing it" To this day I make sure I vote in every election because of him and the people like him who didn't get to come home...

Secondly- THANK YOU for your service, I cannot undo what others have done, but I DO know your hurt should not linger, for the same reasons as my neighbor gave me as a child...

PS I went up to my wife's P/T job in the fire marshal's office and a WWII Navy vet was in there getting a smoke detector inspection form filled out. My wife introduced me to him and he was wearing his Navy ball cap... He served on a DD throughout WWII in the S. Pacific. His ship was on picket duty and he saw the second "public" raising of the flag over Iwo Jima from his ship. I would have loved to talk more and my feeble mind cant remember the name of the DD, I thought it was Perry, but that was a DMS and his definitely said DD, so I must be wrong.

Anyway I thanked him for his service and he thanked me for that... I just don't get people... they enjoy the freedoms veterans have given them, and then s*it on them when they did what they were told to do!!!! AAARRRGGGHHH!!!! stop, breathe deep, exhale,repeat...

Finally thanks for the kind words Larry - but I worked in a "fart factory" ie; roomful of blue collar guys! - LOL I like the riposte but I don't always carry it off well...

Thanks again

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/24/2012 8:50:34 PM

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...I thought he was kidding about ending that AAR....

I didn't realize that you were kidding. I've not read the forum rules yet, wasn't planning to, and thought you were quoting an actual rule and took it that way. I seriously thought it proper to end the Allied AI AAR so as not to break the rule. I must have missed the

symbol if you used one. Sorry, I'm not always in a great mood lately. I'm considering taking my meds around noon instead of around mid-night. Maybe that'd help.

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Larry? I'm really sorry, I meant no disrespect, please continue that AAR

No need to appologize really....no harm done. And there was no disrespect as far as I could see so rest easy big guy. We're still friends.

Um.........I like Bullwinkle's comment about this AAR, Moo's AAR, being a source of help for him and my presence styfiling that. I can totally see that. Moo needs all the help he can get and I'm thinking it might be appropriate for me to bow out of this AAR so you guys can give him all the help he needs and more. I can always send Moo stuff via email so he can chose whether or not to post it for me etc. So for the good advice that Moo needs I feel it's better if I just quit reading this one and bow out gracefully so you guys can feel free to pile on the advice. OPSEC needs override whatever I might contribute anyway. And I can continue the Allied AI AAR and obtain whatever expert advice trickles down from the experts there. Hey we both win. So I'm officially signing off this AAR with this, post. I'll not read it henceforth and respect Moo's OPSEC thereby.

Oh.....and by the way geofflambert dude....his name got clipped in the title from Moore to Moo because of the length of the title verbage and I'm only calling him Moo myself because you did and I thought it was cute.

Everybody cool? Okie dokie then.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 1:37:26 AM

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Bullwinkle - I appreciate your input and post, but I respectfully disagree about the outcome. This is my first AAR and I didn't expect that many people to look... reputation seems to account for a lot in these AAR's (deservedly so)

, I'm more about the fun/funny than OPSEC and I'm a fanboy of Larry's AAR style and writing ability.

I meant it when I said I would be happy if mine was HALF as good as Larry's. My strange sense of gallows humor has a hit or miss approach and I'm definitely one whose writing can be misread.

Maybe its just me - but has ANYONE lost an Allies campaign without being a total idiot or trying to blow up the game? There are a lot of good advice and tutorials around the AAR's and even on youtube! My experience came from playing the A.I. I just recently got the free time (and confidence) to attempt playing with the big boys, but I do NOT consider myself a noob (maybe too cocky?), I'm maybe one step higher.

I accept criticism and believe you are giving me good advice...but its not what I want from this AAR right now...Thomas Edison failed over two hundred times before he invented the light bulb and I'm not expecting a better average

geofflambert - I have no problem with you posting here, I also have no dealing with you other than here, (apparently your on the wrong side of Bullwinkle) If you have something to say, joke, inform, participate, help...by all means P O S T!!!

Still thanks for your time and participation... I'm always up for bantering and even just to say yo! (philly/S. Jersey area greeting)

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 4:36:26 AM

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Maybe we should still go back to Moo(re) to distinguish him from Moo(se). But Larry, I don't think you should go bowing out unless Mr. Moore asks you to. Most of us wargamers were taught by competitive characters who wanted to build formidable opponents. This occurred before the internet when it was difficult to find any opponents at all. Mr. Moore, from what you've said I'm only perhaps slightly more experienced than you are, indeed to some extent I may be substantially less so. So don't treat anything I may say as Scripture (I'm sure you didn't and won't). It sounds as though this is kind of a dry run for you so just enjoy and use it to gird yourself against future opponents. Both of you please feel free to make comments in my AAR vs. vontiger (Gorn to be wild), I'm quite sure he will have no objection and it will make it more fun.
I can see that you know that Bullwinkle is a good guy and he means well. He is correct that I am sometimes problemsome, and I'm almost to the point of banning myself. I really need to be more careful and Moose and some others are rightfully angry with me, methinks. In any case if and when I post I really know little of the Japanese situation and considerations, I know more about the Allies but my opinions are always debateable at best.
Thank you for your kindness to me.

Gorn

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 10:23:20 AM

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...Larry, I don't think you should go bowing out unless Mr. Moore asks you to.�

Mr. Moore asked me, specifically me, not to bow out. So I guess I'm back in. Although I did want Mr. Moore to obtain first class advice and I was figuring my presence here would stifle that somewhat. On the other hand IT'S JUST A FRIENDLY GAME you guys. We don't have any other agenda, Mr. Moore and I. So um.....keep the advice coming when you get a chance and I'll post the Jap stuff and we'll all learn together. Okie dokie?

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Most of us wargamers were taught by competitive characters who wanted to build formidable opponents.

Back when I was playing TOAW I had several opponents who thought of me as an expert and I had no problemo at all taking them under my wing and giving out tips and tricks etc. And they said that they appreciated it. I believe they actually did appreciate it. And I have probably, maybe, a week's worth of experience that Mr. Moore doesn't have yet and wanted to share. I've got three PBEM's going counting Mr. Moore, and I'm learning by leaps and bounds. Plus there's the Allied AI game I'm doing while I wait for moves....and there's mucho good advice coming my way from *that* AAR for which I'm grateful. This game is fabulous and loaded with detail and will take much doing of moves to discover all it's rich secrets, I'm pretty sure. And thanks to all you experts the learning curve is becoming all that much easier.

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...In any case if and when I post I really know little of the Japanese situation and considerations, I know more about the Allies but my opinions are always debateable at best.�

I could always post the Jap side of the conflict here if you guys think it might help. Mr. Moore has asked me to do that and I told him I would. Especially the economic stuff......because Mr. Moore has a PBEM game w/ TommyG in which he's the Jap and needs all the help he can get in that game. I want to help him if I can.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 10:55:19 AM

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Mister?, Mister??

I'm too young to feel this old!!! and I havent even insulted you yet! LOL!!!

Gorn, I'm HAPPY if you called me Moo... as I've been called so much worse. I even joked about the moniker when Larry joined in...
See we even are posting and still talking about the game too! THAT's what this AAR is about in my mind. AND where Bullwinkle is right in his assessment of what's going to happen...But there's have been more hits on this AAR than I even hoped, so SOMEBODY is lurking

Larry - welcome back and thank you for honoring my request.

Help? YES I need all the help I can get, Oh you DON'T mean meds? darn! Reading Sprior's & Cap Mandrakes' AAR There seem to be a lotta Dr's playing this game (wonder if its thier alter ego coming out!) maybe I can doc-shop here? ( JUST KIDDING!!!)

See, just an example of my strange humor! NOW back to the game!

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 3:15:41 PM

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Here's the combat report for 12Dec41:

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 3:45:40 PM

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Jim sent me his moves just now and I loaded the turn, watched the combat replay, and started up Tracker w/ the new turn to see how I'm doing. Some good news and some bad news.
Some adjustments are in order. My comments are on the right side for the numbered labels on the chart.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 3:58:07 PM

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At game start I had enough oil to last about 18 months and resources for about 66 days. Now that the war is going on the oil reserves is down to less than a year and resources is about 50 days. D'oh.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 4:11:25 PM

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RA really puts the pressure on to get those resources FAST. Am happy this part of the Mod has truly worked.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 4:15:31 PM

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Here's why my HI was showing (150).......it's because I just now turned on the repair of the 150 HI points at Miri. So pretty soon I'll have those repaired and I'll be swimming in HI points.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 4:17:27 PM

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RA really puts the pressure on to get those resources FAST. Am happy this part of the Mod has truly worked.

Yeah, me too. Um......I want to thank you for this RA 4.2 mod. It's really cool so far. I like it. I'm finding a lot of changes from the stock version of the scenario and I'm thinking it's better than the stock version.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 4:28:59 PM

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A minor surface scurmish where a lot of Allied ships got hit. Still more are escaping to the south.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 4:40:19 PM

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I got some licks in at Wake and my bombarding force is already on their way to Truk to rearm. Jim will probably get some replacements before I assemble the Wake invasion force properly.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 4:46:04 PM

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I took some significant hits at San Fernando. I hope to have that port soon. Sooner the better.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 4:52:26 PM

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I almost forgot to post the losses for 12Dec41:

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 4:57:25 PM

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Here's yet again, another expensive raid. I'm going to have to fly in some more escorts or quit bombing for a while.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 9:28:07 PM

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All that Japanese stuff makes my head spin, that's why I've never tried playing them. Better find some escorts quick over Clark. Those P-40 sqds are not very well trained when the war starts so you shouldn't need gobs of them.

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 10:43:47 PM

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Stop bombing Clark and start sweeping instead! A few days of sweeping and you will have wiped out all opposition. Then bomb!

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 10:56:05 PM

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From the desk of the Supreme Commander. . .

As I said before, the choice of leaving the shipping in port to be picked off when they get around to Manila & Hong Kong, or fleeing is a no brainer. Shipping is pretty much toast either way. (Opinions?) Getting shipping & more out of Singers, Oost, Batavia & Sojerbaja is more sensible.

Larry did a nice job picking off the runners, even the ones headed NW to Colombo, but he missed the eastbound n down AK's (so far!) The upside for me is he committed around 10-15 warships to the Celebes & South China Sea areas. If they are there, they're not in the SW Pacific! or Alaska!, or Pearl Harbor, or San Fransisco! Seriously he is in control of this area and I can't beat him in naval or air power here, so a hopefully controlled withdrawl and retrenchment like real life is in order.

If anyone has other opinions or tricks up their sleeves feel free to post!

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/25/2012 11:09:06 PM

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There have to be another 20 sightings in addition to these around Pearl Harbor, I'm assuming he's bringing mines as well as torps. I have deployed ASW TF's all around Pearl and vicinity and have a few DMS TF's also.

If Larry is hoping to stranglehold Pearl I'll just waypoint the TF's from the West first... he can't have enough SS to succeed here unless he stripped everywhere out of SS. We'll see...

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/26/2012 1:15:38 AM

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You notice Larry managed to pull off 5 separate invasions in one turn...cannot do anything about any of them... I've already moved to reinforce Port Moresby so it will be up to the West Coast to get men/materials into SW Pacific to stem the tide over the next couple months.

I kinda hate Australia as the Allies - it's great as a huge floating carrier later in the war - just hard to defend early in the war!

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RE: Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 ... - 5/26/2012 4:30:49 AM

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I have two thoughts about your Australia complaint. First it's absolutely staggering to me how many troops and how much equipment the Australians provide, both in the India theater and in the Southwest Pacific.� Second they have a lot of stuff available (if you use the PPs to release them) to garrison and defend lots of places long before the Americans start arriving, use them carefully but aggressively.� Third (I know I just said two thoughts) if the Japanese invade in the north, what are they going to do?� March through the desert to get somewhere that actually matters?� If they invade in the west, so what?� By the time they do it Perth is no longer of any great importance (at least the way I play it).� If they invade in the northeast, well by the time they do it you should already have unloaded one US army division somewhere in Australia (Sydney, Melbourne or Adelaide, say) and they can railroad to the site of the incursion and stop it.� Of course you will have more to deploy than that by then, not just Australian but American.� Have no fear, just bust the other guy's chops.� All will work out in the end.

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