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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 5:26:04 AM   
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Of course, if you just want to make some headlines by capturing a strategically unimportant minor city from JJ (kinda like McArthur's 40+ amphibious invasions of the Southern Phillipines after conquering Luzon when the real prize of Japan was located 180 degrees in the opposite direction), then Padang is a much safer bet due to its isolation.

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You are being unfair to McArthur - he was just searching for his cat that the PT sailors refused to take on board in early '42 when he actually obeyed a President and went to Australia. It may have been him pestering the Wicked Wok owners ...

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 8:59:10 AM   
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Always with the negative waves


This makes invading the Falklands look like a trip across the Channel.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 9:51:32 AM   
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Another lost RN submarine found

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 2:54:07 PM   
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Another lost RN submarine found

Seems like it will soon be completely buried by the sand. The writer is wrong about crew remains - sea water dissolves even bones after that many years.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 3:32:42 PM   
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Always with the negative waves


This makes invading the Falklands look like a trip across the Channel.


And no Harriers either. It will be fun!

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 3:37:48 PM   
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And no Harriers either. It will be fun!


Oh, we're supposed to be having fun? No one told me.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 3:54:30 PM   
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*****************Jan 8, 1943(c)**************


Saumalki: Saumlaki now up to 1.4 airfield. The reinforcement convoys for Saumlaki begin trickling in. The Ceres group is back under Arleigh Burke for surface cover. JJ has a sub there,,,naturally.

ASW attack near Saumlaki at 78,117

Japanese Ships
SS I-16, hits 12, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Chevalier
DD Jupiter




They send a suicide APD..BANZAI!

Day Time Surface Combat, near Molu at 79,116, Range 29,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
APD Shimakaze

Allied Ships
DD Frazier
DMS Boggs
AM Herald
AM Whippoorwill
xAP Maui
xAP Santa Barbara
AK Almaack
xAP Am. Builder
xAP Limerick
xAK Bundaleer


Well, maybe they are trying to get troops off of Dobo, or something. Molu is dot island NE of Saumlaki.

JJ air from Ambon. The P-40's afre flying from Saumlaki.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Molu at 79,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 66 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 9
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 8
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2



Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 19


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AK Almaack, Bomb hits 1
DD Frazier
xAP Am. Builder


And more.


Morning Air attack on TF, near Molu at 79,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 7
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 15


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
DD Frazier
DMS Boggs



The carriers...about 150 mi behind..find and sink the APD

Morning Air attack on TF, near Molu at 79,115

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 21
SBD-3 Dauntless x 17


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
APD Shimakaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires


Helens from ? The p-40's are fatigued or off station.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Molu at 79,116

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 15



Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 11


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
DMS Boggs
xAK Bundaleer, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Maui
xAP Santa Barbara


Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled)



Oops. Scratch one 8 pt Aussie AK and a few guns of the Marine Def Bn.

More Helens. From Troy maybe? Helen, the bomber that sank ONE ship, Bundaleer. Almaack gets hit twice but isn't hurt badly.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Molu at 79,116

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9



Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 4


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AK Almaack, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DMS Boggs
xAP Santa Barbara

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 3:56:12 PM   
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And no Harriers either. It will be fun!


Oh, we're supposed to be having fun? No one told me.



Just think of all the medals!

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 4:04:36 PM   
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Darwin/Katherine: A world record fighter sweep..at least for WWII(c).


Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 84



Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 22
P-40K Warhawk x 22


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
21 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 14000 feet *
5 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 14000 feet *
6 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 14000 feet *
10 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 14000 feet *
10 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 14000 feet *


Not a bad performance by the P-40's and P-39's


Once the LYB's get flushed out into the open they are easier targets for the bombers.

Morning Air attack on 38th/B Division, at 75,125 , near Darwin

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 17


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
229 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)


And this..a raid on the troops retreating northward from Katherine, which is also a record for wwii(c)

Morning Air attack on 38th/C Division, at 76,127 , near Katherine

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 66


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
1097 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 53 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


After another bombardment of some TBF's from bathurst. General Custer orders a cavalry charge South of Darwin. Only the armor attacks.


quote:

Ground combat at 75,125 (near Darwin)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1651 troops, 71 guns, 212 vehicles, Assault Value = 181

Defending force 10350 troops, 95 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 234

Allied adjusted assault: 33

Japanese adjusted defense: 145

Allied assault odds: 1 to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
633 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 40 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 39 (2 destroyed, 37 disabled)

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 4:07:21 PM   
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Noumea: I should have brought more Marines..

Ground combat at Noumea (115,160)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3871 troops, 91 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 137

Defending force 1683 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 63

Allied adjusted assault: 53

Japanese adjusted defense: 55

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
3rd Marine Regiment

Defending units:
61st Naval Guard Unit
45th JNAF AF Unit
46th JNAF AF Unit


How the heck did we have inferior leaders? It's a rousy Naval Guard unit.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 4:15:43 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 4:23:59 PM   
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JJ was not so generous at Katherine. There are only 700 tons of supply, although all the combat troops are supplied. Admiral Lord SPrior is going to try a river assault...with salties in the water I imagine.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 5:26:20 PM   
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Better order in lots of fencing for massive POW Camp Fenton! (the camp will be massive, not the scrawny, mostly starved LYBs).

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 5:49:29 PM   
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And no Harriers either. It will be fun!


Oh, we're supposed to be having fun? No one told me.



Just think of all the medals!

I'll wager it's the metals he's worried about.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 6:03:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

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ORIGINAL: sprior

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And no Harriers either. It will be fun!


Oh, we're supposed to be having fun? No one told me.



Just think of all the medals!

I'll wager it's the metals he's worried about.



One of my favorite lines from Dr. Stranglove ... the world is about to engage in toe to toe nuclear warfare and Slim Pickens boosts everybodies morale by reminding them that they would probably all get medals ..



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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/17/2012 7:08:56 PM   
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I'll wager it's the metals he's worried about.


I had to read that twice.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/19/2012 3:50:56 AM   
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One of my favorite lines from Dr. Stranglove ... the world is about to engage in toe to toe nuclear warfare and Slim Pickens boosts everybodies morale by reminding them that they would probably all get medals ..




I read that Sellers was going to play the Kong role and that Kubrick only casted Pickens when Sellers had some conflict. I futher read that Pickens wasn't in the on the satirical nature of the script although I have my doubts. I find it hard to believe that he didn't see the stenciled warning on the bomb.."NUCLEAR WEAPON: HANDLE WITH CARE"

Major T. J. "King" Kong: Well, boys, I reckon this is it - nuclear combat toe to toe with the Roosskies. Now look, boys, I ain't much of a hand at makin' speeches, but I got a pretty fair idea that something doggone important is goin' on back there. And I got a fair idea the kinda personal emotions that some of you fellas may be thinkin'. Heck, I reckon you wouldn't even be human bein's if you didn't have some pretty strong personal feelin's about nuclear combat. I want you to remember one thing, the folks back home is a-countin' on you and by golly, we ain't about to let 'em down. I tell you something else, if this thing turns out to be half as important as I figure it just might be, I'd say that you're all in line for some important promotions and personal citations when this thing's over with. That goes for ever' last one of you regardless of your race, color or your creed. Now let's get this thing on the hump - we got some flyin' to do.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/19/2012 4:27:03 AM   
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**********************HMS Trusty Bay of Bengal, off Rangoon, 04:30, Jan. 8, 1943(c)********************



XO: <looking through periscope. The duty is rote. He has done the same thing 200 times. Suddenly he is electrified! > CAPTAIN! SOMEBODY GET THE CAPTAIN! I think there is a ship coming!

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/19/2012 4:29:49 AM   
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my nane is sydney.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/19/2012 4:33:17 AM   
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Damn Ukranian hackers

I wonder how many here have step kids named after a major naval base.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/19/2012 5:41:14 AM   
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****************Jan. 9, 1942(c)***********************


Saumlaki: LYB bombers throw themselves into a buzzsaw.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Saumlaki at 78,117

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 9
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1



Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 7
P-40K Warhawk x 30
F4F-4 Wildcat x 43


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAP Limerick
AM Whippoorwill


There is more but you get the general idea. Landing on Kai-elanden tomorrow.

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Mechanical geniuses - 6/19/2012 2:53:10 PM   
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Stalker Girl and Stalker Girl Jr were at each other's throats because the dryer was "running slow" (6+ hrs) to dry towels. Naturally there was a backlog so SG Jr. would take a wet load out of the dryer to put her stuff in ahead.

I told them to check the exhaust hose/vent. They don't, they keep doing the exact same thing expecting a different outcome. SG threatens to hire the chimney sweep, the skinny guy with a beard and a stupid chminey sweep hat that charges $200 to clean the vent. I veto because that is a total bull **** fee. In the meantime, the connector exhaust hose falls off and SG Jr. duct tapes it back on but the word comes up the chain of command that it is "clogged".

Now, to her credit, I applaud the use of duct tape and initiative, but how about cleaning the ******* hose first!

So I send the Admiral down there (me), pull off the hose. It has about 4 lbs of saturated lint in the hose and elbow of the vent, et voila, new dryer.

So I am out 20 minutes of my life I will never get back, the skinny guy with the beard is out $200 and harmony is restored...plus I have clean udnerwear.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/19/2012 3:04:35 PM   
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By ra way, can we move restrited Australian untis to Darwin even though it technically "belongs" to Pacific Ocean Areas Command?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/19/2012 3:22:28 PM   
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Yes. There might be a tax though.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/19/2012 3:30:55 PM   
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Yes. There might be a tax though.


We usually say "fee" or "license". It sounds better.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/19/2012 3:52:14 PM   
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Pranning (no smart ass comments either):

1) The APA convertible AP's need to go back to Sydney. I think they are convertible now but I don't know what the 3-43 uprade is (probably more AA?). Ditto the AKA convertible AK's. I believe they are also convertible now but also have a 6-43 AA upgrade. Does anyone know?

2) Wasp and Yorktown both have 21 day AA upgrades and Wasp needs some engine repair so they will both have to be back at Sydney about 24 days before Admiral Lord SPrior pushes off. That would be no sooner than 45 days, so they have a 21 day window to conduct operations and get back to Sydney.

3) Aus I Corps needs to be ferried to Perth. Some AP's are moving from Horn and there will be others after the Saumlaki, Kai-elanden landings.

4) More fuel needed Northern Oz.

5) With capture of Darwin, Kopeang and Ambon are within range of B-17F, Sorong within range of B17E/F and Kendari within range of B-24's. Sorong and Ambon need to be attritted to permit a landing on Boela. Kopeang needs to be spanked a bit to make a landing safer at Lautem.

6) 3 units are spotted at Sorong. As far as we know, nothing at Boela (Ceram) or Namlea (West of Ambon). This is the planned axis of Advance.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/19/2012 4:54:05 PM   
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The 3/43 upgrade should be the actual AP -> APA conversion. Mucho bene!

Pinhead should be able to clean out the dryer vent...

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/19/2012 5:57:56 PM   
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Pranning (no smart ass comments either):

1) The APA convertible AP's need to go back to Sydney. I think they are convertible now but I don't know what the 3-43 uprade is (probably more AA?). Ditto the AKA convertible AK's. I believe they are also convertible now but also have a 6-43 AA upgrade. Does anyone know?

2) Wasp and Yorktown both have 21 day AA upgrades and Wasp needs some engine repair so they will both have to be back at Sydney about 24 days before Admiral Lord SPrior pushes off. That would be no sooner than 45 days, so they have a 21 day window to conduct operations and get back to Sydney.

3) Aus I Corps needs to be ferried to Perth. Some AP's are moving from Horn and there will be others after the Saumlaki, Kai-elanden landings.

4) More fuel needed Northern Oz.

5) With capture of Darwin, Kopeang and Ambon are within range of B-17F, Sorong within range of B17E/F and Kendari within range of B-24's. Sorong and Ambon need to be attritted to permit a landing on Boela. Kopeang needs to be spanked a bit to make a landing safer at Lautem.

6) 3 units are spotted at Sorong. As far as we know, nothing at Boela (Ceram) or Namlea (West of Ambon). This is the planned axis of Advance.


Just looked at the AP list on the ship listing screen. Not all the APs upgrade/convert in March, some are done in June and one (Wm. Ward Burrows) gets an AA upgrade but does not convert to APA at all - too slow at 12 kts. The AKs upgrade/convert in June.

About repairs to existing damage, I believe that takes additional time on top of the conversions i.e. no concurrent repair and conversion.

Take Boela on your next advance - it has a small oil output and Oz needs all it can get!

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RE: Mechanical geniuses - 6/19/2012 6:17:33 PM   
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Stalker Girl and Stalker Girl Jr were at each other's throats because the dryer was "running slow" (6+ hrs) to dry towels. Naturally there was a backlog so SG Jr. would take a wet load out of the dryer to put her stuff in ahead.

I told them to check the exhaust hose/vent. They don't, they keep doing the exact same thing expecting a different outcome. SG threatens to hire the chimney sweep, the skinny guy with a beard and a stupid chminey sweep hat that charges $200 to clean the vent. I veto because that is a total bull **** fee. In the meantime, the connector exhaust hose falls off and SG Jr. duct tapes it back on but the word comes up the chain of command that it is "clogged".

Now, to her credit, I applaud the use of duct tape and initiative, but how about cleaning the ******* hose first!

So I send the Admiral down there (me), pull off the hose. It has about 4 lbs of saturated lint in the hose and elbow of the vent, et voila, new dryer.

So I am out 20 minutes of my life I will never get back, the skinny guy with the beard is out $200 and harmony is restored...plus I have clean udnerwear.



And you probably saved your house from going up in a big lint ball inferno .. The HOA and Frau Bruan would have freaked looking at a burnt out shell of charcoal 2x6's and foundation ... Needless to say SGI & SGII would have been most upset at the state of affairs ... Yes you saved yourself a lot of grief ...

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RE: Mechanical geniuses - 6/19/2012 6:36:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Stalker Girl and Stalker Girl Jr were at each other's throats because the dryer was "running slow" (6+ hrs) to dry towels. Naturally there was a backlog so SG Jr. would take a wet load out of the dryer to put her stuff in ahead.

I told them to check the exhaust hose/vent. They don't, they keep doing the exact same thing expecting a different outcome. SG threatens to hire the chimney sweep, the skinny guy with a beard and a stupid chminey sweep hat that charges $200 to clean the vent. I veto because that is a total bull **** fee. In the meantime, the connector exhaust hose falls off and SG Jr. duct tapes it back on but the word comes up the chain of command that it is "clogged".

Now, to her credit, I applaud the use of duct tape and initiative, but how about cleaning the ******* hose first!

So I send the Admiral down there (me), pull off the hose. It has about 4 lbs of saturated lint in the hose and elbow of the vent, et voila, new dryer.

So I am out 20 minutes of my life I will never get back, the skinny guy with the beard is out $200 and harmony is restored...plus I have clean udnerwear.



And you probably saved your house from going up in a big lint ball inferno .. The HOA and Frau Bruan would have freaked looking at a burnt out shell of charcoal 2x6's and foundation ... Needless to say SGI & SGII would have been most upset at the state of affairs ... Yes you saved yourself a lot of grief ...

And no doubt a lint ball fire would probably do away with the clean underwear too (not just the stuff in the laundry, if you get my drift).

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