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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/26/2012 10:45:50 PM   
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What we feared just happened: AP penaltized units are now part of a pocket and doomed. LAH together with 16th PZ and 22th PZ face almost nothing and will probably do a big pinzer move nord. Different parts of this front got railed in reinforcements from the Caucasus.





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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/26/2012 10:48:04 PM   
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Only one PZ Div in front of Rostow. We tried a counterattack but failed. the trouble here will start once the troops from Manstein start to arrive here. For now Caucasus troops reinforce my frontline.






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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/26/2012 10:50:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Let's have a look at oil usage: Germany reserves are going down slowly, far too slow to have an impact on its' offensive.

until this turn i had my airforce resting in the east. therefore my oil reserves are going up.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/26/2012 10:51:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Soviet fighters numbers are now exceeding german ones. Olivier attacks each round with all of his units, causing him some losses. german air replacements are low and i hope to see his numbers go down steadily.






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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 6:26:31 AM   
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Disaster in our centers! The fascists invaders finally managed to join the pincers and create a huge pocket! Thousands of our troops are now trapped in a huge pocket around Stary-Oskol. besides two or three tank bat. none of them are able to move or attack. there is no possibility to open up this pocket or to support it from the air. We are certain that our brave men and women will fight to the last. each and every one of them will be avenged when we reach Ostpreussen in a year or two.

this turn we suffered around 14k losses, reaching a new total of 461k troops compared to our ennemies 748k. of our 105k campaign losses we were able to replace 55k. the situation is still worse if we take a look at our pockets.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 6:27:32 AM   
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 6:41:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are now three pockets, plus a few units left in Sevastopol. the biggest pocket by far is Stary-Oskol. Let's have a closer look.

Stary-Oskol, app. 48 regiments / 12 divisions:

Trucks 1425
Tanks 240
Infantry 34'000
Guns 435

Tim Pocket, 7 regiments

Lisitschansk pocket, 11 units

Sevastopol 5 units.

If we add all up than we have around 50'000 men trapped, a ninth of our troop total. what a mess.

Taking a close look at the maps reveals how bold the axis is playing. in several places he holds the line withing nothing else but an artillery bat. even if i bombard them, followed up with an attack consisting of tanks and infantry i will get devestating results. With the current situation of my army i find it hard to counterattack. all i can do is trying to prevent more encirclements.

This turn we recieved again close to 3'000 men replacements and plenty of reinforcements. (two div., two reg. and one milita). and here an outlook to what's coming up next:






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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 6:49:29 AM   
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Our hearts are bleeding lookin at the huge trap. if you take a look at the same map sector of the first turn, you will see that this part of the front was pulling back on the very first turn. the mistake was not about holding on too long. but we have to analyze if we could have stopped his tanks by a better tactical disposition.

Troops around Voronezh turn east, the Don will be the next defensive line. Stavka issued an order to hold to the city in front of the german 299th inf. div. I think this would be doable. but only at the cost of risking encirclement. i need the units behind the Don. this is a dilemma. holding on will gain me prestige but cost me some units.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 6:51:55 AM   
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a general retreat starts. The german have massed mobile units of the 16th Pz and 22th Pz and LAH. I only manage to build a weak two line deep defense in front of them. again no match to their upcoming attack.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 6:54:09 AM   
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Another weak point in front of 14th Pz. i had to rail in additional troops from the Caucasus here. but they are in no fighting condition after the reorganization and rail transport.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 6:56:28 AM   
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The pressure on Rostov rises as Sevastopol is about to fall. Our evacuated troops from there are underway by sea transport. In front of the Wiking SS and Slovak Mob. i was able to form a three hex deep line.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 7:00:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		The german Panzers took some hits this turn. Most of them suffered losses in the medium tank sector. alone this turn 80 medium were lost. I know they recieve only like 5 med. tanks per turn. But Olivier will have enough PP points to spend on request more tank cards. still i hope he will have his units in a bad shape within the end of next week.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 7:02:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		German oil reserves are continously going down. but i still don't think that this will have any impact on his situation.
i wonder if these stats are real or rather fog of war estimates?




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 7:03:08 AM   
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 8:56:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		i am currently playing a Case Blue campaign as axis against the ai on normal setting. if i compare both games, i had not half the tank losses at this stage compared to Olivier. he can buy additional tanks but it's expensive. and after checking it: there are turns where no tanks at all are arriving: i really hope his tank losses will slow him down soon.

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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 2:29:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		The German losses are huge, they'll lose nearly as many men in 1.5 weeks as in the entire month of July historically.

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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 8:59:47 PM   
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Not that much happening. Kill / loss ratio steadily changes from a 1/4 into a 1/5. Against the AI i won a major victory with a 1/6 ratio. Looks like things are not working for me. Stavka was generous and sent over 40 aircraft this turn. this tempted me to use some of them in two different airstrikes: the first one with three fighter units into german held gorund, trying to attract some interceptors. i got them and they got me. we lost a lot of fighter aircraft and killed only very few. the other attack was on an exposed german tank spearhead. same depressing result. i will stop any airmissions and wait a few weeks until my units are re equipped and our Command & Control level doesn^t reduce readiness anymore.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 9:02:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Control & Command is still low. Our best army, 5th TA gets a penalty every turn so far.
Either a C&C AP penalty, or an organizational attack & def. penalty or both. This army made not even
one successfull attack so far.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 9:03:19 PM   
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 9:04:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		and issueing airstrikes makes the problem even worse:




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 9:06:51 PM   
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In front of the 11th and 24th Panzer, the slovak PZ and Grossdeutschland i managed to build a thinnly manned thre hex deep screen. the biggest problem will be to get 13 A behind the Don.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 9:08:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just behind the huge pocket of shame i pull back the newly formed line. This line will not halt any attack right now. the goal is to pull back behind the Don. In other words to run faster than the Panzers drive.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 9:11:26 PM   
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North of Belovodsk will most likely be the next breakthrough. I am railing in whatever there is left in the Caucasus. still everythings looks weak.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 9:13:35 PM   
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Front line disengaged from 60th Pz Gren and SS Wiking.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 9:14:39 PM   
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Nothing happening here. We look forward to the arrival of the Sevastopol Garrison.




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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 11:18:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Keunert I am following both AAR's.

Would it be possible to write what turn you are doing? A bit easier to follow both threads.


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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/28/2012 11:46:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		there is the turn number and date on the first post of each turn. but you are right it's not easy to find. will maybe add it on every post

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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/29/2012 5:16:40 PM   
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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/30/2012 6:37:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would add my compliments too, you are the first players posting the big campaign.
I'm following both AARs therefore I will be neutral.

C&C AP penalty really hurts your defence, especially in the 2nd turn you lost the possibility to avoid some encirclements, your opponent has been lucky because it happens when his units were in very good shape, of course he has been smart to take advantage of that.

I still don't have any experience but his losses seem a bit high.

Keep it going and good luck

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RE: Case Blue: Keunert(Soviets) vs Olivier(Axis), no O... - 7/30/2012 8:49:47 PM   
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Time to draw some first conclusions. My first turns were mostly about avoiding encirclement and i clearly failed in doing so. With the AP penalties and the lack of railroads i still have to figure out how i could have slowed down the advance of Oliviers Panzertruppen.

Combat

Despite severe AP penalties, combat penalties, and readiness losses i tried several counterattacks. My airstrikes were failures and caused me incredible losses. all groundattacks besides maybe two were failures too. next time i will get my airforce back and set interception to zero for a few turns. after a few turns of reinforcements (the soviets seem to have a rather high plane output) i will set the fighter on intercept, but will refrain from ordering airstrikes. better first have a look at how they do once they intercept a german airmission and then judge if the airforce is ready to play an active role.

groundunits can attack if: there are no penalties, there is artillery available and preferable if there are cards to increase their effectiveness are playable. never attack with a penalty.

Defending

first line of units with low loss acceptance (25-50%). they will suck up air & artillery strikes and if lucky will retreat. second line with a high loss acceptance and hopefully with good entrenchment. when the attacker reaches the second line he may have used up most of his artillery and air assets and the units have to attack with lower AP, resulting in less combat rounds.






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