Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Keunert

i don't get it how your 18 TC was able to destroy the german PZ bat? did you play a card?
the german unit most likely couldn't retreat because it had no ap left. but with it's high morale it should have been able to achieve a hold result?

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ORIGINAL: Blind Sniper

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And what about of the nearly 100 K russian and 20 K german losses in just two days.
At this rate, the Red Army will be gone in a month, needless to make vast encirclements, direct combat should suffice.

I agree, this is the kill ratio from my game after 8 turns (missing the 8th Soviet turn), with replacements/reinforcements included.

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ORIGINAL: rominet

Thank you for this AAR which illustrates (at least for me but I feel a little lonely) the only real trouble of this game: the combat routine that is too deadly and too expeditious.
The complete destruction of 2 reg of the 29th PzGr in just one turn seems very unrealistic. Even during the winter 41-42, it did not happen. The encircled German units have largely resisted Russian attacks and kept the shock (with heavy losses of course).
This is certainly not an easy problem to solve.
IMHO, direct combat should inflict less losses but the units should keep the same ability to make breakthrough.

And what about of the nearly 100 K russian and 20 K german losses in just two days.
At this rate, the Red Army will be gone in a month, needless to make vast encirclements, direct combat should suffice.

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ORIGINAL: bwheatley

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ORIGINAL: rominet

Thank you for this AAR which illustrates (at least for me but I feel a little lonely) the only real trouble of this game: the combat routine that is too deadly and too expeditious.
The complete destruction of 2 reg of the 29th PzGr in just one turn seems very unrealistic. Even during the winter 41-42, it did not happen. The encircled German units have largely resisted Russian attacks and kept the shock (with heavy losses of course).
This is certainly not an easy problem to solve.
IMHO, direct combat should inflict less losses but the units should keep the same ability to make breakthrough.

And what about of the nearly 100 K russian and 20 K german losses in just two days.
At this rate, the Red Army will be gone in a month, needless to make vast encirclements, direct combat should suffice.

With the editor exposed it's pretty trivial to tweak around with combat parameters until you find a spot you are happy with. One quick fix to lower casualties but keep combat results could be to tweak up the Hit to Retreat modifier for sftypes you would rather see retreat more. It would say if a specific sftype is hit and is going to die then X% of the time convert that hit just to a retreat. Might make the combat a little less bloody. But there are a multitude of ways you can tweak combat to be less bloody that idea was just 1.

Because of the editor there is no reason everyone can't tweak a scenario to be happy with it. :)

Oh and it was 3 rgt of 29MotD not 2. :)

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ORIGINAL: olivier34

We see that the axis player has to be very cautious when he runs his mobile forces in the back of the soviets. Should the axis player put his units in a "retreat only if 75% of losses" ? I doubt this will change something to those impressive soviet results. (I will run some test)
The soviet units don't have penaltys at all during the first turn. Only after that. Maybe this is something to change or the axis as to consider that and move his units in a way to avoid soviet counter attacks.
in this game casualties are enormous. Is that because the two player are very agressive ?

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ORIGINAL: rominet

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ORIGINAL: bwheatley

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ORIGINAL: rominet

Thank you for this AAR which illustrates (at least for me but I feel a little lonely) the only real trouble of this game: the combat routine that is too deadly and too expeditious.
The complete destruction of 2 reg of the 29th PzGr in just one turn seems very unrealistic. Even during the winter 41-42, it did not happen. The encircled German units have largely resisted Russian attacks and kept the shock (with heavy losses of course).
This is certainly not an easy problem to solve.
IMHO, direct combat should inflict less losses but the units should keep the same ability to make breakthrough.

And what about of the nearly 100 K russian and 20 K german losses in just two days.
At this rate, the Red Army will be gone in a month, needless to make vast encirclements, direct combat should suffice.

With the editor exposed it's pretty trivial to tweak around with combat parameters until you find a spot you are happy with. One quick fix to lower casualties but keep combat results could be to tweak up the Hit to Retreat modifier for sftypes you would rather see retreat more. It would say if a specific sftype is hit and is going to die then X% of the time convert that hit just to a retreat. Might make the combat a little less bloody. But there are a multitude of ways you can tweak combat to be less bloody that idea was just 1.

Because of the editor there is no reason everyone can't tweak a scenario to be happy with it. :)

Oh and it was 3 rgt of 29MotD not 2. :)

In fact, since two weeks i have the game, i spend half my time with the editor to try to improve things.
I may have found a version that works well but I have to test it further.
But do not say that this is trivial, because when you touch a parameter, you must make many tests to see what happens in reality on the battlefield and some may be contrary to those desired.

When I will have finished (if it works), i will do a comparative presentation with my current AAR Kharkov 42.

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ORIGINAL: Keunert

i was talking about the other attack: two russian tank units killing a german one.
your airstrikes did not get intercepted? why is that?

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ORIGINAL: rominet

Congratulations for this great AAR!
The problem now is that I don't see how the Russians will be able to keep.
The number of russian troops which fell almost 200,000 in just 10 days, it looks really bad and I do not see how you can do better. You didn't suffer any vast encirclement.

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ORIGINAL: Keunert

very nice AAR indeed, i like the maps with all the info's.

You know that you can check the Axis Oil level? it's really strange that he stopps. he sure could have moved his infantry units. giving you time to dig in is a strange move. i am really looking forward here. my guess would be that your fronts will break soon if he keeps up the pressure. but you seem to be less concerned and to have a plan. it also looks like he throws everything at you with the Sec Div near Rostow. might be an idea to do some small landings and keep him busy behind the lines.