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RE: Fortress Palembang: Problems and Solutions - 10/14/2012 3:33:12 PM   
bk19@mweb.co.za

 

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Status: offline 		HI all,

I have read with some interest many of the remarks relating to the 'Festung Palembang' defence model.

I should add at this point, I am a beginner Japanese PBEM player currently near the end of my first year of the Reluctant Admiral scenario. Given that this scenario is somewhat different to the stock scenarios it is possible (even probable) that the experience I had with 'Festung Palembang' was not nearly as bad as many have predicted.

Following are the ground combat reports for the period July 1st, 1942 to July 23rd, 1942. Ongoing aerial bombardment occurred but without obvious significant effect so I elected to omit this as primarily irrelevant clutter.

Study of the reports show that the Japanese were building up during this the first two weeks of the battle. What is not evident is that Palembang was also getting surrounded by lesser troops with exits from the city east and north east where I could clobber any remnants with shore bombardment. I expected an eventual retreat.

Ground assaults only began on the 16th as a result of the last units executing a river crossing into Palembang. The main ground assault began the next day.
Further study of these reports show also that there were 3 days of assault followed by 2 days rest and then another 2 days of assault. On this last day, the Allies surrendered en-masse. They did not elect to retreat at all. Palembang was captured and the only damage found was the Oil fields had take 79 hit points. Everything else was in perfect condition. In essence, although Japan spent a month building up and thumping Palembang, I do not personally believe that five days of combat is a significant delay in the bigger scheme of things.

Palembang was the last Allied bastion in Java and Sumatra.

I concede that I had a whackload of troops committed to this operation, but they did not have that much else to do at the time.... for me, it was definitely a tad premature to consider operations in both Burma and Australia. Beside, my opponent had also assembled 'Festung Koepang' that would also require a substantial commitment to weed out. My motive for the choice is obvious.

Before I add the turn reports, I would like to ask the more experience players to comment on whether I was just lucky with the die rolls etcetera (for example).

Could it be done with less?
Is this unique to the scenario?

Turn reports begin:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 01, 42
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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 61973 troops, 657 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 2526

Defending force 27230 troops, 227 guns, 146 vehicles, Assault Value = 893

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Allied ground losses:
77 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
21st Division
114th Infantry Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
65th Brigade
5th Recon Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
4th Division
20th Infantry Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
14th Army
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
56th Const Co
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
48th Field Artillery Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
46th Indian Brigade
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
44th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
Zuid KNIL Battalion
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 02, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 61991 troops, 657 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 2533

Defending force 27261 troops, 227 guns, 146 vehicles, Assault Value = 889

Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
7th Tank Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
65th Brigade
4th Division
48th Recon Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
148th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
14th Army
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
56th Const Co
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
33rd Road Const Co
48th Field Artillery Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
45th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
46th Indian Brigade
44th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 03, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 61964 troops, 657 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 2527

Defending force 27330 troops, 227 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 890

Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
4th Division
7th Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
21st Division
11th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
16th Engineer Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
48th Field Artillery Regiment
14th Army
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
33rd Road Const Co
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
56th Const Co
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
44th Indian Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
45th Indian Brigade
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
17th Indian Division
West Sumatra Base Force
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Palembang Base Force

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 04, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 61966 troops, 657 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 2530

Defending force 27459 troops, 227 guns, 154 vehicles, Assault Value = 890

Japanese ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Assaulting units:
48th Recon Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
4th Division
5th Recon Regiment
21st Division
48th Engineer Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
65th Brigade
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
14th Army
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
56th Const Co
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
48th Field Artillery Regiment
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
46th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
44th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 05, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 61945 troops, 657 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 2530

Defending force 27507 troops, 226 guns, 154 vehicles, Assault Value = 891

Japanese ground losses:
98 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
4th Division
7th Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
65th Brigade
16th Engineer Regiment
21st Division
114th Infantry Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Army
48th Field Artillery Regiment
56th Const Co
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
Zuid KNIL Battalion
46th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
44th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24197 troops, 181 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 889

Defending force 75701 troops, 679 guns, 787 vehicles, Assault Value = 2521



Assaulting units:
Zuid KNIL Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
44th Indian Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
4th Division
148th Infantry Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
65th Brigade
8th Tank Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
56th Const Co
48th Field Artillery Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
14th Army
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 06, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 61896 troops, 657 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 2527

Defending force 27506 troops, 226 guns, 154 vehicles, Assault Value = 891

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
4th Division
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
65th Brigade
Maizuru 1st SNLF
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
33rd Road Const Co
14th Army
48th Field Artillery Regiment
56th Const Co
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
44th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
46th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24187 troops, 181 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 888

Defending force 75689 troops, 679 guns, 787 vehicles, Assault Value = 2519



Assaulting units:
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
44th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
46th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
5th Recon Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
48th Engineer Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
21st Division
7th Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
4th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
48th Field Artillery Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
56th Const Co
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Army
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 07, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 61939 troops, 657 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 2536

Defending force 27631 troops, 226 guns, 159 vehicles, Assault Value = 889

Japanese ground losses:
161 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
16th Recon Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
65th Brigade
2nd Tank Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
4th Division
11th Infantry Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
21st Division
16th Engineer Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
33rd Road Const Co
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
48th Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
56th Const Co
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Army
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
Zuid KNIL Battalion
46th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
44th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
West Sumatra Base Force
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Palembang Base Force


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24225 troops, 181 guns, 157 vehicles, Assault Value = 878

Defending force 75648 troops, 679 guns, 787 vehicles, Assault Value = 2522



Assaulting units:
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
Zuid KNIL Battalion
44th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
West Sumatra Base Force
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
11th Infantry Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
21st Division
148th Infantry Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
4th Division
65th Brigade
5th Recon Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
48th Field Artillery Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
56th Const Co
14th Army
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
1st RF Gun Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 08, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 61943 troops, 657 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 2535

Defending force 27638 troops, 226 guns, 159 vehicles, Assault Value = 883

Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
5th Recon Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
7th Tank Regiment
4th Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
48th Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
33rd Road Const Co
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
14th Army
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
56th Const Co
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
44th Indian Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
17th Indian Division
West Sumatra Base Force
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Palembang Base Force


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24258 troops, 181 guns, 157 vehicles, Assault Value = 880

Defending force 75771 troops, 679 guns, 789 vehicles, Assault Value = 2530



Assaulting units:
46th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
Zuid KNIL Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
44th Indian Brigade
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
17th Indian Division
West Sumatra Base Force
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
48th Recon Regiment
4th Division
4th Tank Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
65th Brigade
148th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
21st Division
20th Infantry Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
14th Army
56th Const Co
33rd Road Const Co
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
48th Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 09, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 61966 troops, 657 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 2540

Defending force 27680 troops, 226 guns, 159 vehicles, Assault Value = 888

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
21st Division
16th Engineer Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
4th Division
5th Recon Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
65th Brigade
Maizuru 1st SNLF
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
48th Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
14th Army
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
56th Const Co
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
45th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
44th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
46th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24266 troops, 181 guns, 157 vehicles, Assault Value = 883

Defending force 75793 troops, 679 guns, 789 vehicles, Assault Value = 2536



Assaulting units:
44th Indian Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
2nd Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
65th Brigade
48th Engineer Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
21st Division
7th Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
4th Division
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
33rd Road Const Co
14th Army
56th Const Co
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
48th Field Artillery Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 10, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24297 troops, 182 guns, 160 vehicles, Assault Value = 889

Defending force 75889 troops, 679 guns, 792 vehicles, Assault Value = 2545


Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
44th Indian Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
45th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
17th Indian Division
West Sumatra Base Force
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
4th Division
4th Tank Regiment
21st Division
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
11th Infantry Regiment
2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
56th Const Co
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
48th Field Artillery Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Army
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 11, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24241 troops, 182 guns, 160 vehicles, Assault Value = 883

Defending force 75961 troops, 679 guns, 792 vehicles, Assault Value = 2543


Allied ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
46th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
44th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
21st Division
65th Brigade
2nd Tank Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
4th Division
20th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
48th Division
7th Tank Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
14th Army
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
56th Const Co
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
1st RF Gun Battalion
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 12, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24116 troops, 182 guns, 160 vehicles, Assault Value = 866

Defending force 77161 troops, 679 guns, 975 vehicles, Assault Value = 2644

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
45th Indian Brigade
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
Zuid KNIL Battalion
46th Indian Brigade
44th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
7th Tank Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
65th Brigade
48th Division
148th Infantry Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
21st Division
4th Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF
14th Army
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
56th Const Co
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
1st RF Gun Battalion
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 13, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23883 troops, 182 guns, 161 vehicles, Assault Value = 862

Defending force 90531 troops, 848 guns, 1130 vehicles, Assault Value = 2907

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
151 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
46th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
44th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
65th Brigade
16th Engineer Regiment
21st Division
16th Infantry Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
4th Division
16th Recon Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
48th Division
1st Tank Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
5th Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Army
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
56th Const Co
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
25th Army
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Army
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 14, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23776 troops, 182 guns, 161 vehicles, Assault Value = 845

Defending force 103611 troops, 954 guns, 1172 vehicles, Assault Value = 3372


Allied ground losses:
114 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
45th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
46th Indian Brigade
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
44th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
West Sumatra Base Force
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
5th Recon Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
48th Division
65th Brigade
16th Engineer Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
2nd Tank Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
4th Division
16th Recon Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
25th Army
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
14th Army
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
33rd Road Const Co
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
5th Field Artillery Regiment
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
15th Army
56th Const Co
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 15, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23692 troops, 182 guns, 162 vehicles, Assault Value = 833

Defending force 103637 troops, 954 guns, 1173 vehicles, Assault Value = 3378

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
210 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled


Assaulting units:
44th Indian Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
11th Infantry Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
4th Division
48th Division
Imperial Guards Division
2nd Tank Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
65th Brigade
148th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
25th Army
33rd Road Const Co
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
5th Field Artillery Regiment
56th Const Co
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Army
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Army
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 16, 42
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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 6459 troops, 264 guns, 125 vehicles, Assault Value = 3503

Defending force 26569 troops, 226 guns, 164 vehicles, Assault Value = 818

Japanese adjusted assault: 0

Allied adjusted defense: 1999

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
3070 casualties reported
Squads: 85 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 51 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 38 (23 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
96 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
65th Brigade
1st Tank Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
21st Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
148th Infantry Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
4th Division
7th Tank Regiment
48th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
56th Const Co
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
33rd Road Const Co
5th Field Artillery Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
15th Army
25th Army
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
14th Army
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
45th Indian Brigade
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
46th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
44th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
17th Indian Division
West Sumatra Base Force
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Palembang Base Force


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23514 troops, 182 guns, 162 vehicles, Assault Value = 809

Defending force 104947 troops, 965 guns, 1163 vehicles, Assault Value = 3376


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
44th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
46th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
West Sumatra Base Force
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
16th Recon Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
1st Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
2nd Tank Regiment
4th Division
8th Tank Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
48th Division
16th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
148th Infantry Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
14th Army
15th Army
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
25th Army
1st RF Gun Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
5th Field Artillery Regiment
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
56th Const Co
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
21st Infantry Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 17, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 95222 troops, 960 guns, 952 vehicles, Assault Value = 3386

Defending force 26602 troops, 225 guns, 167 vehicles, Assault Value = 809

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Japanese adjusted assault: 3962

Allied adjusted defense: 2929

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4267 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 362 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 32 disabled
Guns lost 33 (1 destroyed, 32 disabled)
Vehicles lost 122 (14 destroyed, 108 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1268 casualties reported
Squads: 35 destroyed, 103 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 32 (7 destroyed, 25 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Regiment
4th Division
65th Brigade
8th Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
21st Infantry Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
20th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
21st Division
48th Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
33rd Road Const Co
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
14th Army
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
25th Army
56th Const Co
5th Field Artillery Regiment
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
15th Army
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
46th Indian Brigade
44th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
West Sumatra Base Force
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Palembang Base Force


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 21871 troops, 176 guns, 163 vehicles, Assault Value = 617

Defending force 101174 troops, 965 guns, 1152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2922



Assaulting units:
46th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
44th Indian Brigade
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
Zuid KNIL Battalion
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force

Defending units:
1st Tank Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
24th Infantry Regiment
21st Infantry Regiment
4th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
65th Brigade
114th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
48th Division
21st Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
33rd Road Const Co
14th Army
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
25th Army
15th Army
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
56th Const Co
5th Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 18, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 91571 troops, 959 guns, 940 vehicles, Assault Value = 2957

Defending force 24796 troops, 219 guns, 165 vehicles, Assault Value = 615

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese adjusted assault: 3119

Allied adjusted defense: 1108

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3328 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 257 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 127 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 49 disabled
Guns lost 44 (2 destroyed, 42 disabled)
Vehicles lost 232 (114 destroyed, 118 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
2304 casualties reported
Squads: 105 destroyed, 139 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 23 disabled
Guns lost 35 (7 destroyed, 28 disabled)


Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment
48th Division
21st Division
4th Division
16th Infantry Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
21st Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
16th Engineer Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
11th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
15th Army
5th Field Artillery Regiment
56th Const Co
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
14th Army
33rd Road Const Co
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
25th Army
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
46th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
44th Indian Brigade
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
45th Indian Brigade
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 19, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 89126 troops, 959 guns, 875 vehicles, Assault Value = 2680

Defending force 22598 troops, 214 guns, 165 vehicles, Assault Value = 404

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 2904

Allied adjusted defense: 3685

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1516 casualties reported
Squads: 39 destroyed, 103 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 132 (57 destroyed, 75 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
2075 casualties reported
Squads: 137 destroyed, 116 disabled
Non Combat: 40 destroyed, 46 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 37 (8 destroyed, 29 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (4 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
21st Division
148th Infantry Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
21st Infantry Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
4th Division
20th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
16th Infantry Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
48th Division
24th Infantry Regiment
Maizuru 1st SNLF
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Army
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
5th Field Artillery Regiment
25th Army
56th Const Co
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
15th Army
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
Zuid KNIL Battalion
44th Indian Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
West Sumatra Base Force
Palembang Base Force


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 20, 42
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Ground units rested.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 21, 42
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Ground units rested.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 22, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 84697 troops, 907 guns, 595 vehicles, Assault Value = 2722

Defending force 20857 troops, 207 guns, 164 vehicles, Assault Value = 299

Japanese adjusted assault: 2336

Allied adjusted defense: 772

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1019 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 88 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
2526 casualties reported
Squads: 199 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 107 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 57 (51 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Assaulting units:
14th Tank Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
148th Infantry Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
114th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
4th Division
11th Infantry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
48th Division
7th Tank Regiment
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
14th Army
1st RF Gun Battalion
33rd Road Const Co
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
56th Const Co
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
5th Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Army
25th Army
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
44th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
Zuid KNIL Battalion
West Sumatra Base Force
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
Palembang Base Force

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 23, 42

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 84322 troops, 907 guns, 594 vehicles, Assault Value = 2674

Defending force 18599 troops, 169 guns, 166 vehicles, Assault Value = 250

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 3238

Allied adjusted defense: 268

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Palembang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
997 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 64 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 21 disabled
Vehicles lost 33 (1 destroyed, 32 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
18950 casualties reported
Squads: 409 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1943 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 176 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 216 (216 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 247 (247 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 9


Assaulting units:
16th Engineer Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
11th Infantry Regiment
4th Division
24th Infantry Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
4th Tank Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
48th Division
21st Division
65th Brigade
7th Tank Regiment
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
33rd Road Const Co
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
56th Const Co
5th Field Artillery Regiment
4th Field AF Construction Battalion
15th Army
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Army
1st RF Gun Battalion
25th Army
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
44th Indian Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
WS KNIL Territory Regiment
Teloekbetoeng Base Force
West Sumatra Base Force
Zuid KNIL Battalion
Palembang Base Force

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< Message edited by bk19@mweb.co.za -- 10/14/2012 3:36:25 PM >

(in reply to Chernobyl)
Post #: 121
RE: Fortress Palembang: Problems and Solutions - 12/29/2012 3:33:03 PM   
KenchiSulla


Posts: 2948
Joined: 10/22/2008
From: the Netherlands
Status: offline 		Revisiting this subject: What was the most damage you saw done to the oilfields and refinery complex on Palembang by defending allied troops?

When does the most damage occur?
- During a retreat or when surrendering?

< Message edited by Cannonfodder -- 12/29/2012 3:38:56 PM >

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Post #: 122
RE: Fortress Palembang: Problems and Solutions - 12/29/2012 3:56:21 PM   
KenchiSulla


Posts: 2948
Joined: 10/22/2008
From: the Netherlands
Status: offline 		My opponent told me that retreating (not surrendering) troops from Palembang (1 dutch regiment, several battalions and 2 indian brigades) damaged around 540 oil points.

Would having them surrender lessen the damage they did?

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Post #: 123
RE: Fortress Palembang: Problems and Solutions - 12/29/2012 10:39:42 PM   
Swenslim

 

Posts: 437
Joined: 4/15/2005
From: Odessa, Ukraine
Status: offline 		There is simple solution.

home rule - no fortress Palembang.

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Post #: 124
RE: Fortress Palembang: Problems and Solutions - 12/29/2012 10:44:50 PM   
KenchiSulla


Posts: 2948
Joined: 10/22/2008
From: the Netherlands
Status: offline 		Defending Palembang is a viable option. I consider it viable when playing the Japanese OR the Allies (certainly when playing DBB-C). The problem lies in the way the game models damage and repairs to facilities. Having half of the oilfields knocked out is ok if you are able to speed up the repair process.

You can't.

Anybody know the exact mechanics behind damaging of facilities. I never expected my 40 regular engineer (not combat) squads to do this much damage.

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Post #: 125
RE: Fortress Palembang: Problems and Solutions - 12/30/2012 12:00:03 AM   
Bullwinkle58


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

Defending Palembang is a viable option. I consider it viable when playing the Japanese OR the Allies (certainly when playing DBB-C). The problem lies in the way the game models damage and repairs to facilities. Having half of the oilfields knocked out is ok if you are able to speed up the repair process.

You can't.

Anybody know the exact mechanics behind damaging of facilities. I never expected my 40 regular engineer (not combat) squads to do this much damage.


Lots of randoms from what I understand, although there has been long speculation that a Shock attack to take the base is more harmful than a non-shock.

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Post #: 126
RE: Fortress Palembang: Problems and Solutions - 12/30/2012 9:11:49 AM   
dennishe


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Joined: 9/22/2007
From: Leiden, the Netherlands
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

Defending Palembang is a viable option. I consider it viable when playing the Japanese OR the Allies (certainly when playing DBB-C). The problem lies in the way the game models damage and repairs to facilities. Having half of the oilfields knocked out is ok if you are able to speed up the repair process.

You can't.

Anybody know the exact mechanics behind damaging of facilities. I never expected my 40 regular engineer (not combat) squads to do this much damage.


Lots of randoms from what I understand, although there has been long speculation that a Shock attack to take the base is more harmful than a non-shock.


No shock attack was carried out, but I've done several attempts to get the base. These may have accumulated damage(?). I have 360 oil fields operational and 540 are damaged. Are these numbers typical for a Fortress Palembang episode?


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Post #: 127
RE: Fortress Palembang: Problems and Solutions - 12/30/2012 10:25:28 AM   
KenchiSulla


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Joined: 10/22/2008
From: the Netherlands
Status: offline 		No damage to oilfields at all up till the capture so it is all from the final assault. I read that having a lot of engineers present on the attacking side might help avoiding damage. How many squads did you bring?

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RE: Fortress Palembang: Problems and Solutions - 12/30/2012 12:18:18 PM   
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No damage to oilfields at all up till the capture so it is all from the final assault. I read that having a lot of engineers present on the attacking side might help avoiding damage. How many squads did you bring?


Yes, I read this too. I didn't bring any additional squads, but the various divisions include quite some engineers. Most of my engineers are still being rebuild at Singapore or committed elsewhere. I hoped this would have been sufficient...

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